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reply Lester L. Martin II <Sarah ewam-associates.com> writes:
Ok,
I'll change it to tango installtion and phobos instalation respectively; does
that sound better

Janice Caron Wrote:

 On 9/30/07, Lester L. Martin II <Sarah ewam-associates.com> wrote:
 Basic install installs dmd and phobos.
 Full install installs dmd and tango and dsss.
 Tango and Phobos can not be used together in windows without a little batch
script.

I know. That's exactly the point I was making. Phobos is officially part of D, so you can't call it "full" if Phobos doesn't work out of the box. Tango is an unofficial third party extension. You just can't go around saying it's part of a "full install" of D. Don't get me wrong. I think you're installer is a great idea! It's just the labelling I'm concerned about. Why not make a standard D installer, and then a separate Tango installer. Nobody would have a problem with that.

Sep 30 2007
next sibling parent reply "Janice Caron" <caron800 googlemail.com> writes:
On 9/30/07, Lester L. Martin II <Sarah ewam-associates.com> wrote:
 Ok,
 I'll change it to tango installtion and phobos instalation respectively; does
that sound better

Oh yes. That's cool. That's superb. Excellent! :-)
Sep 30 2007
next sibling parent Lester L. Martin II <Sarah ewam-associates.com> writes:
Thank you Janice for your help. When you told me how it would confuse newbies
it made me look back and think and I figured you were right.  Without your help
I could have turned many people away from D.  With your help I was able to make
it even more newbie friendly than before.
Lester L. Martin II
Janice Caron Wrote:

 On 9/30/07, Lester L. Martin II <Sarah ewam-associates.com> wrote:
 Ok,
 I'll change it to tango installtion and phobos instalation respectively; does
that sound better

Oh yes. That's cool. That's superb. Excellent! :-)

Sep 30 2007
prev sibling parent reply Derek Parnell <derek psych.ward> writes:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:31:17 +0100, Janice Caron wrote:

 On 9/30/07, Lester L. Martin II <Sarah ewam-associates.com> wrote:
 Ok,
 I'll change it to tango installtion and phobos instalation respectively; does
that sound better

Oh yes. That's cool. That's superb. Excellent! :-)

But why would a newbie intuitively know that 'phobos' is the standard library and 'tango' is a third-party library the precludes the standard library? -- Derek Parnell Melbourne, Australia skype: derek.j.parnell
Sep 30 2007
parent Derek Parnell <derek psych.ward> writes:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:10:12 +0100, Janice Caron wrote:

 On 9/30/07, Derek Parnell <derek psych.ward> wrote:
 But why would a newbie intuitively know that 'phobos' is the standard
 library and 'tango' is a third-party library the precludes the standard
 library?

I imagine that, as with other Windows installers, the assumption is that anyone who clicks on "Custom Install" and hand-picks what they want, isn't a newbie.

Huh? Who's talking 'custom'? I certainly wasn't. Originally it was ... "standard" ==> phobos "full" ==> tango now its changed to ... "phobos" ==> phobos "tango" ==> tango And while the names are now exactly what it does, it doesn't help people who do not know that 'phobos' is the standard and 'tango' is not the standard. I would have suggested ... "standard" ==> phobos "alternative" ==> tango -- Derek Parnell Melbourne, Australia skype: derek.j.parnell
Sep 30 2007
prev sibling parent "Janice Caron" <caron800 googlemail.com> writes:
On 9/30/07, Derek Parnell <derek psych.ward> wrote:
 But why would a newbie intuitively know that 'phobos' is the standard
 library and 'tango' is a third-party library the precludes the standard
 library?

I imagine that, as with other Windows installers, the assumption is that anyone who clicks on "Custom Install" and hand-picks what they want, isn't a newbie.
Sep 30 2007