• anton smith <nope donthave.com> Mar 15 2010
• Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> Mar 15 2010
• BLS <windevguy hotmail.de> Mar 16 2010

anton smith <nope donthave.com> writes:

bearophile Wrote:

 General comment on the cpp0x.html page: C++/C++0x and Java are legacy
languages (but the most successful), so they can't be enough to design D. So I
suggest to try for few days the C#3.5+ and Scala languages too, they probably
already solve some of the problems that need to be found D still...


Indeed, just observing C++/C++0x is a bit short-sighted. The C++ has never been
a great source of language innovation. Some other languages have learned from
the lessons with C++ and built something completely new. I'd also recommend all
language designers to experiment with new languages once in a while. C# is
really great (4.0 coming soon!) and even VB.Net nowadays comes with type
inference and lambdas. They certainly didn't get these ideas from C++03, C++98,
or C99.

Probably 75% of D could have been invented by just improving C++ with C# 3.5
features. Properties, delegates, strings in switches, extension methods etc.

Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:

anton smith wrote:
 bearophile Wrote:
 
 General comment on the cpp0x.html page: C++/C++0x and Java are legacy
languages (but the most
 successful), so they can't be enough to design D. So I suggest to try for few
days the C#3.5+
 and Scala languages too, they probably already solve some of the problems that
need to be found
 D still...


 Indeed, just observing C++/C++0x is a bit short-sighted. The C++ has never
been a great source of
 language innovation.


No language other than D has implemented anywhere near the capability C++ has
with generic 
metaprogramming.


 Probably 75% of D could have been invented by just improving C++ with C# 3.5
features.
 Properties, delegates, strings in switches, extension methods etc.


D is older than C# 1.0.

BLS <windevguy hotmail.de> writes:

On 15/03/2010 22:26, Walter Bright wrote:
 anton smith wrote:
 bearophile Wrote:

 General comment on the cpp0x.html page: C++/C++0x and Java are legacy
 languages (but the most
 successful), so they can't be enough to design D. So I suggest to try
 for few days the C#3.5+
 and Scala languages too, they probably already solve some of the
 problems that need to be found
 D still...


 Indeed, just observing C++/C++0x is a bit short-sighted. The C++ has
 never been a great source of
 language innovation.


 No language other than D has implemented anywhere near the capability
 C++ has with generic metaprogramming.


 Probably 75% of D could have been invented by just improving C++ with
 C# 3.5 features.
 Properties, delegates, strings in switches, extension methods etc.


 D is older than C# 1.0.


that's true.
Guess, I like C# because it is close to D.

just wonder ..
Horse horse  = new Horse(); //really the end of wisdom ?

what the heck is that good for >
Horse horse = new Horse{);

Horse() horse; // should do the trick cause a horse is a horse is a 
horse of course

will finish the beer now and and have a sleep..