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digitalmars.D.learn - what I wanted to say concerning RFC

reply davidb <ta-nospam-zz gmx.at> writes:
Hello [whoever posts a RFC],

_first_:
As this is a community of various individuals,
all with an interest in D and pursuing this interest
in their free time, I think it best if one
would like some advice - ask for it, in a nice manner.
Because a certain level of courtesy will go a *long* way,
trust me.
If you met with your friends and you would like them
to do something for you, would you just throw your code at them?
No, you would kindly ask - "Hey, could you help me with this?
I'd like to hear your suggestions."
Remember: Nobody has an obligation to help, it's all voluntarily.

_second_:
It would help if you could provide additional information:
What is this for a code? What is this code supposed to do?
How much experience do you have with programming, and how much with D?
What do you want to know? Would you like comments on
interface, function/class use, consistent standard lib use,
typing, indentation, comments, templates, optimization,
something else or all of the above?
It's not necessary, but helps in getting useful comments.
(Also, a note on how to compile/which libraries
are needed is recommended.)

_third_:
What I said so far is not directed at some individual
but at anyone who would like some help (see first line).
It just happened that one post had to be the bone of contention.

_fourth_:
If english (the main language used in this newsgroup) is very
hard for you and you don't think you can express what you want to say
(but can read it, because you just read this post ;-)
in a proper manner, I think it won't be a problem if you write
in your native or another language and put a
"PLEASE TRANSLATE ME" notice at the top of your post.

_fifth_:
Sorry if it sounds a bit harsh (okay, maybe more than a bit),
but I just wanted to point something out that is very important
to me and because I kind of proposed the whole thing.
I feel a bit responsible and don't want it to degenerate
because this whole idea could really be a great experience for many
(including me).
That said, sorry again to the last post - see point three.
(And btw., I never did anything with sqlite or dfl,
so I'll pass this time ;-)

Have a good time,
david
May 25 2007
parent reply janderson <askme me.com> writes:
davidb wrote:
 Hello [whoever posts a RFC],
 
 _first_:
 As this is a community of various individuals,
 all with an interest in D and pursuing this interest
 in their free time, I think it best if one
 would like some advice - ask for it, in a nice manner.
 Because a certain level of courtesy will go a *long* way,
 trust me.
 If you met with your friends and you would like them
 to do something for you, would you just throw your code at them?
 No, you would kindly ask - "Hey, could you help me with this?
 I'd like to hear your suggestions."
 Remember: Nobody has an obligation to help, it's all voluntarily.

Good point. [snip]
 
 _fourth_:
 If english (the main language used in this newsgroup) is very
 hard for you and you don't think you can express what you want to say
 (but can read it, because you just read this post ;-)
 in a proper manner, I think it won't be a problem if you write
 in your native or another language and put a
 "PLEASE TRANSLATE ME" notice at the top of your post.

I would suggest trying English and your native language, to increase your chances of an answer even more.
 _fifth_:
 Sorry if it sounds a bit harsh (okay, maybe more than a bit),
 but I just wanted to point something out that is very important
 to me and because I kind of proposed the whole thing.
 I feel a bit responsible and don't want it to degenerate
 because this whole idea could really be a great experience for many
 (including me).
 That said, sorry again to the last post - see point three.
 (And btw., I never did anything with sqlite or dfl,
 so I'll pass this time ;-)
 
 Have a good time,
 david

It's always tough trying to be helpful or provide guidelines for a group and not turn out the rule making bad guy. With messages like this, I personally find its best to reply with something like: "Hi, I'm sure many people in this newsgroup would love to help. However I believe you would get a much better response if you provided some context...." One thing I love about the D newsgroup, is that just about every message gets a reply. It shows that the community members are a very helpful and friendly group unlike some other *hum* C++ newsgroups. That is the D newsgroup community generally treats their customers well. -Joel
May 25 2007
parent davidb <ta-nospam-zz gmx.at> writes:
janderson wrote:
 davidb wrote:
 Hello [whoever posts a RFC],

 _first_:
 As this is a community of various individuals,
 all with an interest in D and pursuing this interest
 in their free time, I think it best if one
 would like some advice - ask for it, in a nice manner.
 Because a certain level of courtesy will go a *long* way,
 trust me.
 If you met with your friends and you would like them
 to do something for you, would you just throw your code at them?
 No, you would kindly ask - "Hey, could you help me with this?
 I'd like to hear your suggestions."
 Remember: Nobody has an obligation to help, it's all voluntarily.

Good point. [snip]
 _fourth_:
 If english (the main language used in this newsgroup) is very
 hard for you and you don't think you can express what you want to say
 (but can read it, because you just read this post ;-)
 in a proper manner, I think it won't be a problem if you write
 in your native or another language and put a
 "PLEASE TRANSLATE ME" notice at the top of your post.

I would suggest trying English and your native language, to increase your chances of an answer even more.
 _fifth_:
 Sorry if it sounds a bit harsh (okay, maybe more than a bit),
 but I just wanted to point something out that is very important
 to me and because I kind of proposed the whole thing.
 I feel a bit responsible and don't want it to degenerate
 because this whole idea could really be a great experience for many
 (including me).
 That said, sorry again to the last post - see point three.
 (And btw., I never did anything with sqlite or dfl,
 so I'll pass this time ;-)

 Have a good time,
 david

It's always tough trying to be helpful or provide guidelines for a group and not turn out the rule making bad guy. With messages like this, I personally find its best to reply with something like: "Hi, I'm sure many people in this newsgroup would love to help. However I believe you would get a much better response if you provided some context...." One thing I love about the D newsgroup, is that just about every message gets a reply. It shows that the community members are a very helpful and friendly group unlike some other *hum* C++ newsgroups. That is the D newsgroup community generally treats their customers well. -Joel

Thanks for your comments and advice :-) david
May 26 2007