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reply Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
is coming soon, August 4-6. Brad says we still have room for more 
speakers, so if you have a fun D project you're working on, we'd love to 
hear about it!

http://d.puremagic.com/conference2008/
Jun 12 2008
next sibling parent Extrawurst <spam extrawurst.org> writes:
I would like to come and talk about my various D projects, but its a bit 
expensive for me to fly from here (Germany) to Seattle and to live in a 
Hotel for a few days ;(


Walter Bright schrieb:
 is coming soon, August 4-6. Brad says we still have room for more 
 speakers, so if you have a fun D project you're working on, we'd love 
 to hear about it!

 http://d.puremagic.com/conference2008/

Jun 13 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent reply John Reimer <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:
Hello Walter,

 is coming soon, August 4-6. Brad says we still have room for more
 speakers, so if you have a fun D project you're working on, we'd love
 to hear about it!
 
 http://d.puremagic.com/conference2008/
 

Last year Brad asked that potential attendees contact him so that he could plan logistics. Is this required this year? Or do we just show up? -JJR
Jun 21 2008
next sibling parent reply Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:
Anders Bergh wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> wrote:
 Speak for yourself! Embedded flash videos are a great deal more convenient
 than regular downloads and a great deal better than torrents.
 I refuse to install a torrent client.

Why do you refuse to install a torrent client? Is it because it's often associated with piracy? BitTorrent is quite popular and works great for what it was designed for. Especially when you have a fast connection, whenever I download things like OpenOffice it's miles faster than the http mirrors. Even Opera comes with a built-in BitTorrent client. Anders

I know BitTorrent is popular, what it is and what it does. But it's not just torrents. Anything that requires me to install one more client to download it isn't getting the time of day from me. I have a fantastic transfer rate and a perfectly good download manager that works through a Firefox plugin. If I can't download something through that, I don't want it. Besides, I've used BitTorrent in the past on my old box and didn't see any benefit to using it.
Jun 24 2008
next sibling parent reply "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
"Mike Parker" wrote
 Anders Bergh wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Mike Parker wrote:
 Speak for yourself! Embedded flash videos are a great deal more 
 convenient
 than regular downloads and a great deal better than torrents.
 I refuse to install a torrent client.

Why do you refuse to install a torrent client? Is it because it's often associated with piracy? BitTorrent is quite popular and works great for what it was designed for. Especially when you have a fast connection, whenever I download things like OpenOffice it's miles faster than the http mirrors. Even Opera comes with a built-in BitTorrent client. Anders

I know BitTorrent is popular, what it is and what it does. But it's not just torrents. Anything that requires me to install one more client to download it isn't getting the time of day from me. I have a fantastic transfer rate and a perfectly good download manager that works through a Firefox plugin. If I can't download something through that, I don't want it. Besides, I've used BitTorrent in the past on my old box and didn't see any benefit to using it.

In fact, I was in the same camp you were (yay! one more thing to bog down my PC), but I thought 'firefox must have a plugin for this' https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4844 No excuses now :) -Steve
Jun 24 2008
parent reply BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:
Reply to Steven,

 In fact, I was in the same camp you were (yay! one more thing to bog
 down my PC), but I thought 'firefox must have a plugin for this'
 

plugin = "0.4 more things to bog down my PC" Not as bad as a whole app, but still not nothing.
Jun 24 2008
parent "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"BCS" <ao pathlink.com> wrote in message 
news:55391cb32e8618caa3f5624ed6e8 news.digitalmars.com...
 Reply to Steven,

 In fact, I was in the same camp you were (yay! one more thing to bog
 down my PC), but I thought 'firefox must have a plugin for this'

plugin = "0.4 more things to bog down my PC" Not as bad as a whole app, but still not nothing.

I find Firefox to be unusable garbage without about 10 specific extensions. Those are a bit on the slow side (but only because of &*$^*&#^&!*^#$&*^ ECMAScript, %&*%^^%# I hate ECMAScript %$&^$&), but they turn it from garbage into my preferred browser (not that It makes me suddenly love Firefox or anything).
Jun 24 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent Leandro Lucarella <llucax gmail.com> writes:
Mike Parker, el 24 de junio a las 22:19 me escribiste:
 Besides, I've used BitTorrent in the past on my old box and didn't see any 
 benefit to using it.

Other people (specially us with slow crapy 3rd world ISPs) do. -- Leandro Lucarella (luca) | Blog colectivo: http://www.mazziblog.com.ar/blog/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Key: 5F5A8D05 (F8CD F9A7 BF00 5431 4145 104C 949E BFB6 5F5A 8D05) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOMBRE DESNUDO AMENAZA A LOS VECINOS CON UNA "KATANA" DESDE SU BALCON -- CrĂłnica TV
Jun 24 2008
prev sibling parent reply "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"Mike Parker" <aldacron gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:g3qs94$18nt$1 digitalmars.com...
 Anders Bergh wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> wrote:
 Speak for yourself! Embedded flash videos are a great deal more 
 convenient
 than regular downloads and a great deal better than torrents.
 I refuse to install a torrent client.

Why do you refuse to install a torrent client? Is it because it's often associated with piracy? BitTorrent is quite popular and works great for what it was designed for. Especially when you have a fast connection, whenever I download things like OpenOffice it's miles faster than the http mirrors. Even Opera comes with a built-in BitTorrent client. Anders

I know BitTorrent is popular, what it is and what it does. But it's not just torrents. Anything that requires me to install one more client to download it isn't getting the time of day from me. I have a fantastic transfer rate and a perfectly good download manager that works through a Firefox plugin. If I can't download something through that, I don't want it. Besides, I've used BitTorrent in the past on my old box and didn't see any benefit to using it.

Why do people have problems with *real* clients? Personally, I absolutely can't stand web applications (and that's coming from someone who's written some.) They're a necessary evil if you *absolutely must* access something from, say, a public terminal, for instance. But other than that, I'd *much* rather use a REAL program written on and for a REAL platform that was actually designed for such things. Distributed state isn't an insurmountable problem. There just isn't much attention getting paid to it (development-wise) just because eveyone's on that damnned "web application" bandwagon these days. Even if you're lucky enough to have such a great conection, there are other benefits to torrents: 1. You're insulated from network performance from the server of the person who's sharing the file. Ie, without torrent, if the server is having trouble, you're stuck. With torrent, everything's fine. 2. From the perspective of the person hosting the torrent: You might not have the bandwidth and/or storage space to host a large file. If that's the case, you can either say "sorry, I can't host this", or just put up a torrent and seed it only until there's other seeds. Also, if you don't like the torrent clients you've seen (I don't like most of the ones I've seen) try Azureus 2.5 (*NOT* Azureus Vuze 3.0: That's a steaming pile of shit).
Jun 24 2008
parent reply torhu <no spam.invalid> writes:
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 Also, if you don't like the torrent clients you've seen (I don't like most 
 of the ones I've seen) try Azureus 2.5 (*NOT* Azureus Vuze 3.0: That's a 
 steaming pile of shit). 

µtorrent is AFAIK the best overall bitorrent client. No Java, no bloat, low resource use. http://utorrent.com/
Jun 24 2008
next sibling parent "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"torhu" <no spam.invalid> wrote in message 
news:g3rkh7$dgu$1 digitalmars.com...
 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 Also, if you don't like the torrent clients you've seen (I don't like 
 most of the ones I've seen) try Azureus 2.5 (*NOT* Azureus Vuze 3.0: 
 That's a steaming pile of shit).

µtorrent is AFAIK the best overall bitorrent client. No Java, no bloat, low resource use. http://utorrent.com/

Ohh, really nice so far. I think I've found a new favorite torrent client :)
Jun 24 2008
prev sibling parent davidb <ta-nospam-zz gmx.at> writes:
torhu schrieb:
 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 Also, if you don't like the torrent clients you've seen (I don't like 
 most of the ones I've seen) try Azureus 2.5 (*NOT* Azureus Vuze 3.0: 
 That's a steaming pile of shit). 

µtorrent is AFAIK the best overall bitorrent client. No Java, no bloat, low resource use. http://utorrent.com/

I second that - it's just the right tool to get the job done. david
Jun 24 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent "Koroskin Denis" <2korden gmail.com> writes:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:51:48 +0400, Nick Sabalausky <a a.a> wrote:

 "Brad Roberts" <braddr puremagic.com> wrote in message
 news:mailman.5.1214207467.32098.digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com..=

 John Reimer wrote:
 Hello Walter,

 is coming soon, August 4-6. Brad says we still have room for more
 speakers, so if you have a fun D project you're working on, we'd lo=




 to hear about it!

 http://d.puremagic.com/conference2008/

Last year Brad asked that potential attendees contact him so that he=



 could plan logistics.  Is this required this year?  Or do we just sh=



 up?
 -JJR

I'm still struggling to get enough speakers to justify the conference=


 So far, I don't have enough to fill the first day, let alone 2 or 3.
 So, please, if you want this thing to happen, find a topic you're
 willing to stand in front of 50-100 people talking about for and hour=


 and and let me know what it'll be about.  Alternatively, find someone=


 you want to hear from and convince them to do it.

 If I can't find enough people in the next 2 weeks (give or take based=


 the rate of people volunteering), I'll have little choice but to aban=


 it for this year and look at doing it some other time.

 Assuming this kick in the.. uh... assuming the conference is going to=


 happen, I'll open up registration pretty much just like last year.

 On the good news front.  I have the videos from 2007 finally!  I need=


 watch them and get google video's to digest them.  This will take som=


 time and I'll try to get it done asap.  My first attempt to send one =


 google looks to be a bust (2 seconds of gray !=3D 90 minutes of
 presentation).  More on this over the course of the week.

 Sigh,
 Brad

Why not just stick them up somewhere, maybe as a torrent? I've always =

 hated
 "video embedded in flash".

Agreed, embedded video is good, but I prefer to download all the video = with no quality loss and keep locally for further watching.
Jun 24 2008
prev sibling parent Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:
Brad Roberts wrote:
 I'm still struggling to get enough speakers to justify the conference.
 So far, I don't have enough to fill the first day, let alone 2 or 3.
 So, please, if you want this thing to happen, find a topic you're
 willing to stand in front of 50-100 people talking about for and hour
 and and let me know what it'll be about.  Alternatively, find someone
 you want to hear from and convince them to do it.
 
 If I can't find enough people in the next 2 weeks (give or take based on
 the rate of people volunteering), I'll have little choice but to abandon
 it for this year and look at doing it some other time.
 
 Assuming this kick in the.. uh... assuming the conference is going to
 happen, I'll open up registration pretty much just like last year.
 
 On the good news front.  I have the videos from 2007 finally!  I need to
 watch them and get google video's to digest them.  This will take some
 time and I'll try to get it done asap.  My first attempt to send one to
 google looks to be a bust (2 seconds of gray != 90 minutes of
 presentation).  More on this over the course of the week.
 
 Sigh,
 Brad

Ok guys, I hate to do this, but due to lack of sufficient speakers (I only got two volunteers beyond the local guys, not even enough to fill one day), I'm going to have to scrub the August conference. Last year I had to work pretty hard to round up enough speakers, so I guess I shouldn't be terribly shocked that not putting in that level of effort this year didn't work out. I'm not giving up on holding another conference, but without speakers, we've just got a bunch of us in a room and I really can't see getting all of us together for several days of unscheduled time. I haven't dropped my reservations on the rooms yet, so if there's some weird ground swell of reaction to this cancellation, it's reversible. I'm going to see what dates I can get for first quarter 2009. If you guys want to discuss preferred dates, please do so (over in digitalmars.D, not .announce). I'll give a whole lot more weight to willing speakers that express preferred dates.. so if it matters to you, that's how you'll influence me the most. :) Sorry, Brad
Jul 01 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:
John Reimer wrote:
 Hello Walter,
 
 is coming soon, August 4-6. Brad says we still have room for more
 speakers, so if you have a fun D project you're working on, we'd love
 to hear about it!

 http://d.puremagic.com/conference2008/

Last year Brad asked that potential attendees contact him so that he could plan logistics. Is this required this year? Or do we just show up? -JJR

I'm still struggling to get enough speakers to justify the conference. So far, I don't have enough to fill the first day, let alone 2 or 3. So, please, if you want this thing to happen, find a topic you're willing to stand in front of 50-100 people talking about for and hour and and let me know what it'll be about. Alternatively, find someone you want to hear from and convince them to do it. If I can't find enough people in the next 2 weeks (give or take based on the rate of people volunteering), I'll have little choice but to abandon it for this year and look at doing it some other time. Assuming this kick in the.. uh... assuming the conference is going to happen, I'll open up registration pretty much just like last year. On the good news front. I have the videos from 2007 finally! I need to watch them and get google video's to digest them. This will take some time and I'll try to get it done asap. My first attempt to send one to google looks to be a bust (2 seconds of gray != 90 minutes of presentation). More on this over the course of the week. Sigh, Brad
Jun 23 2008
next sibling parent BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:
Reply to Brad,


 On the good news front. I have the videos from 2007 finally! I need to
 watch them and get google video's to digest them. This will take some
 time and I'll try to get it done asap. My first attempt to send one to
 google looks to be a bust (2 seconds of gray != 90 minutes of
 presentation). More on this over the course of the week.
 

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Jun 23 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"Brad Roberts" <braddr puremagic.com> wrote in message 
news:mailman.5.1214207467.32098.digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com...
 John Reimer wrote:
 Hello Walter,

 is coming soon, August 4-6. Brad says we still have room for more
 speakers, so if you have a fun D project you're working on, we'd love
 to hear about it!

 http://d.puremagic.com/conference2008/

Last year Brad asked that potential attendees contact him so that he could plan logistics. Is this required this year? Or do we just show up? -JJR

I'm still struggling to get enough speakers to justify the conference. So far, I don't have enough to fill the first day, let alone 2 or 3. So, please, if you want this thing to happen, find a topic you're willing to stand in front of 50-100 people talking about for and hour and and let me know what it'll be about. Alternatively, find someone you want to hear from and convince them to do it. If I can't find enough people in the next 2 weeks (give or take based on the rate of people volunteering), I'll have little choice but to abandon it for this year and look at doing it some other time. Assuming this kick in the.. uh... assuming the conference is going to happen, I'll open up registration pretty much just like last year. On the good news front. I have the videos from 2007 finally! I need to watch them and get google video's to digest them. This will take some time and I'll try to get it done asap. My first attempt to send one to google looks to be a bust (2 seconds of gray != 90 minutes of presentation). More on this over the course of the week. Sigh, Brad

Why not just stick them up somewhere, maybe as a torrent? I've always hated "video embedded in flash".
Jun 23 2008
parent Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 "Brad Roberts" <braddr puremagic.com> wrote in message 
 news:mailman.5.1214207467.32098.digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com...
 John Reimer wrote:
 Hello Walter,

 is coming soon, August 4-6. Brad says we still have room for more
 speakers, so if you have a fun D project you're working on, we'd love
 to hear about it!

 http://d.puremagic.com/conference2008/

Last year Brad asked that potential attendees contact him so that he could plan logistics. Is this required this year? Or do we just show up? -JJR

So far, I don't have enough to fill the first day, let alone 2 or 3. So, please, if you want this thing to happen, find a topic you're willing to stand in front of 50-100 people talking about for and hour and and let me know what it'll be about. Alternatively, find someone you want to hear from and convince them to do it. If I can't find enough people in the next 2 weeks (give or take based on the rate of people volunteering), I'll have little choice but to abandon it for this year and look at doing it some other time. Assuming this kick in the.. uh... assuming the conference is going to happen, I'll open up registration pretty much just like last year. On the good news front. I have the videos from 2007 finally! I need to watch them and get google video's to digest them. This will take some time and I'll try to get it done asap. My first attempt to send one to google looks to be a bust (2 seconds of gray != 90 minutes of presentation). More on this over the course of the week. Sigh, Brad

Why not just stick them up somewhere, maybe as a torrent? I've always hated "video embedded in flash".

convenient than regular downloads and a great deal better than torrents. I refuse to install a torrent client.
Jun 23 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent =?iso-8859-1?Q?Julio=20C=e9sar=20Carrascal=20Urquijo?= <jcarrascal gmail.com> writes:
Hello Brad,

 On the good news front.  I have the videos from 2007 finally!  I need
 to watch them and get google video's to digest them.  This will take
 some time and I'll try to get it done asap.  My first attempt to send
 one to google looks to be a bust (2 seconds of gray != 90 minutes of
 presentation).  More on this over the course of the week.

That's great news. I can't wait. Please allow iPod downloads and I think there's a higher quality download option that can be enabled. Thank you for the work you've put into this.
Jun 24 2008
prev sibling parent John Reimer <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:
Hello Brad,

 John Reimer wrote:
 
 Hello Walter,
 
 is coming soon, August 4-6. Brad says we still have room for more
 speakers, so if you have a fun D project you're working on, we'd
 love to hear about it!
 
 http://d.puremagic.com/conference2008/
 

could plan logistics. Is this required this year? Or do we just show up? -JJR

So far, I don't have enough to fill the first day, let alone 2 or 3. So, please, if you want this thing to happen, find a topic you're willing to stand in front of 50-100 people talking about for and hour and and let me know what it'll be about. Alternatively, find someone you want to hear from and convince them to do it.

Sorry that I didn't respond to this sooner, Brad. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my query. This looks like a tough year for the D conference. I can't say I'm ready to present any material for such an event, although I've certainly had many ideas bouncing around in my head (more specifically concerning dwt). Even so, I've run into an unfortunate (and unavoidable) conflict of dates that makes my attendence indefinite anyway :(. I'm hoping that I can clear that up soon enough, though. But I see I may find the conference cancelled anyway.
 If I can't find enough people in the next 2 weeks (give or take based
 on the rate of people volunteering), I'll have little choice but to
 abandon it for this year and look at doing it some other time.
 

Summer is a hard time for some people. But I suppose it's the best time for students.
 Assuming this kick in the.. uh... assuming the conference is going to
 happen, I'll open up registration pretty much just like last year.
 
 On the good news front.  I have the videos from 2007 finally!  I need
 to watch them and get google video's to digest them.  This will take
 some time and I'll try to get it done asap.  My first attempt to send
 one to google looks to be a bust (2 seconds of gray != 90 minutes of
 presentation).  More on this over the course of the week.
 

I was a little surprised that you got more attention with this portion of your announcement than about the 2008 conference. :) All the best, -JJR
Jul 01 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Anders Bergh" <anders1 gmail.com> writes:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> wrote:
 Speak for yourself! Embedded flash videos are a great deal more convenient
 than regular downloads and a great deal better than torrents.
 I refuse to install a torrent client.

Why do you refuse to install a torrent client? Is it because it's often associated with piracy? BitTorrent is quite popular and works great for what it was designed for. Especially when you have a fast connection, whenever I download things like OpenOffice it's miles faster than the http mirrors. Even Opera comes with a built-in BitTorrent client. Anders
Jun 23 2008
parent BCS <ao pathlink.com> writes:
Reply to Anders,

 BitTorrent is quite popular and works
 great for what it was designed for. Especially when you have a fast
 connection, whenever I download things like OpenOffice it's miles
 faster than the http mirrors.

For one, the only fast connection I have access to is on a net that does all it can to throttle torrents to zero. Also I don't have any net access where I'm supposed to be allowed to serve out anything. I have no problem with putting the videos up on a torrent, just don't make that the only source. HTTP is fine for me as I have a connection that I can leave downloading for hours at a stretch.
Jun 24 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent Jesse Phillips <jessekphillips gmail.com> writes:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:51:48 -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote:

 "Brad Roberts" <braddr puremagic.com> wrote in message
 news:mailman.5.1214207467.32098.digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com...
 John Reimer wrote:
 Hello Walter,

 is coming soon, August 4-6. Brad says we still have room for more
 speakers, so if you have a fun D project you're working on, we'd love
 to hear about it!

 http://d.puremagic.com/conference2008/

Last year Brad asked that potential attendees contact him so that he could plan logistics. Is this required this year? Or do we just show up? -JJR

So far, I don't have enough to fill the first day, let alone 2 or 3. So, please, if you want this thing to happen, find a topic you're willing to stand in front of 50-100 people talking about for and hour and and let me know what it'll be about. Alternatively, find someone you want to hear from and convince them to do it. If I can't find enough people in the next 2 weeks (give or take based on the rate of people volunteering), I'll have little choice but to abandon it for this year and look at doing it some other time. Assuming this kick in the.. uh... assuming the conference is going to happen, I'll open up registration pretty much just like last year. On the good news front. I have the videos from 2007 finally! I need to watch them and get google video's to digest them. This will take some time and I'll try to get it done asap. My first attempt to send one to google looks to be a bust (2 seconds of gray != 90 minutes of presentation). More on this over the course of the week. Sigh, Brad

Why not just stick them up somewhere, maybe as a torrent? I've always hated "video embedded in flash".

I don't have a problem with torrent clients, but I can tell you why I prefer video embedded flash, but maybe not so much for these videos. I don't want to download and save the video to watch it, I just want to see it now and be done with it. I know the browser has to do it, but I'm not trouble with deleting the video afterwards. It's not about the space, resources, or speed, just my laziness. As for these videos, I'd like a file to float around places. I'll probably be putting them on my Sansa (mp3 player).
Jun 24 2008
prev sibling parent Vincenzo Ampolo <vincenzo.ampolo gmail.com> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 is coming soon, August 4-6. Brad says we still have room for more
 speakers, so if you have a fun D project you're working on, we'd love to
 hear about it!
 
 http://d.puremagic.com/conference2008/

Hi Walter, Do you think it will be possible to record the conference and put these videos on youtube? thanks
Jul 01 2008