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digitalmars.D - Stack Overflow: Developer Survey Results - 2016

reply Darkfeign <darkfeign gmail.com> writes:
http://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2016

Developer survey results are in from Stack Overflow. Particularly 
interested to see is Rust topping the 'Most Loved' category, with 
Go just below at #5. Interested in hearing other peoples' 
thoughts on the results and what you found most surprising, if 
anything.
Mar 17 2016
next sibling parent reply Adam D. Ruppe <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
I doubt this is a wholly representative sample because I'm 
guessing a lot of people don't bother answering Stack Overflow 
surveys. I know I didn't, and I go to the site almost daily.

But lol, if the average student has 3.4 years experience, perhaps 
I should revise my numbers. On job applications and such, I only 
count experience where I was paid enough money to pay bills off 
it - I start in 2009 when writing that up, whereas I've actually 
been coding in some degree or another since about 2001 (and D 
since about 2006, though I also typically use late 2008 as the 
point where I got serious with it).
Mar 17 2016
parent Darkfeign <darkfeign gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 17 March 2016 at 14:54:52 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
 I doubt this is a wholly representative sample because I'm 
 guessing a lot of people don't bother answering Stack Overflow 
 surveys. I know I didn't, and I go to the site almost daily.

 But lol, if the average student has 3.4 years experience, 
 perhaps I should revise my numbers. On job applications and 
 such, I only count experience where I was paid enough money to 
 pay bills off it - I start in 2009 when writing that up, 
 whereas I've actually been coding in some degree or another 
 since about 2001 (and D since about 2006, though I also 
 typically use late 2008 as the point where I got serious with 
 it).
It definitely isn't, as JavaScript is taking all the titles there, as well as Mac OSX being the most popular primary operating system according to those who completed the survey, which is kind of scary to think about.
Mar 17 2016
prev sibling parent reply Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg gmx.com> writes:
On Thursday, 17 March 2016 at 14:16:49 UTC, Darkfeign wrote:
 http://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2016

 Developer survey results are in from Stack Overflow. 
 Particularly interested to see is Rust topping the 'Most Loved' 
 category, with Go just below at #5. Interested in hearing other 
 peoples' thoughts on the results and what you found most 
 surprising, if anything.
I don't recall even being asked to fill out such a survey, though I likely would have ignored it just like Adam did. Regardless, the results that I've typically seen from such surveys at SO always seem biased in ways that make the information seem almost meaningless to me - e.g. the ages are typically on the low end, indicating that SO really is not representative of programmers as a whole - just programmers who ask questions online - which really shouldn't be surprising, but it makes me seriously question whether it indicates much of anything about programmers as a whole. The bottom line is that the information that they have seems to be biased enough that I don't see much point in paying attention to it. - Jonathan M Davis
Mar 17 2016
parent reply Darkfeign <darkfeign gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 17 March 2016 at 18:33:08 UTC, Jonathan M Davis 
wrote:
 On Thursday, 17 March 2016 at 14:16:49 UTC, Darkfeign wrote:
 http://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2016
The bottom line is that the information that they have seems to be biased enough that I don't see much point in paying attention to it. - Jonathan M Davis
Certainly valid. From the reddit post of the survey people mentioned that it would be quite common to see languages like JavaScript at the top of Stack Overflow surveys and their user data, because JavaScript as a language changes far often than most, along with an incredible turnover in new libraries emerging before fizzling out just a year or so later. While languages like C/C++ and Java only see major updates over a period of years.
Mar 18 2016
parent Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg gmx.com> writes:
On Friday, 18 March 2016 at 14:28:03 UTC, Darkfeign wrote:
 On Thursday, 17 March 2016 at 18:33:08 UTC, Jonathan M Davis 
 wrote:
 On Thursday, 17 March 2016 at 14:16:49 UTC, Darkfeign wrote:
 http://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2016
The bottom line is that the information that they have seems to be biased enough that I don't see much point in paying attention to it. - Jonathan M Davis
Certainly valid. From the reddit post of the survey people mentioned that it would be quite common to see languages like JavaScript at the top of Stack Overflow surveys and their user data, because JavaScript as a language changes far often than most, along with an incredible turnover in new libraries emerging before fizzling out just a year or so later. While languages like C/C++ and Java only see major updates over a period of years.
Which just underscores my point. The SO survey is _not_ providing information that actively reflects programmers as a whole. It's just reflecting a certain subset of programmers who ask or answer question on SO. And that's potentially valuable data about what's going on with SO, but it means that the information isn't worth much when it comes to determining anything about programmers in general. The fact that it's so biased makes it quite clear that the information is not generally applicable, much as it might be interesting with regards to SO. - Jonathan M Davis
Mar 18 2016