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reply bearophile <bearophileHUGS lycos.com> writes:
A nice video with readable slides, mostly about Scala collections:
http://www.parleys.com/#id=2184&sl=71&st=5

Martin Odersky looks like a very intelligent person (about as Hongwei Xi,
author of ATS language).

Scala collections look very integrated with each other and with
functional-style programming. And they look good for parallelism too.

A flatMap() sounds useful in Phobos. It means flat(map()) where map returns a
small collection, and flat flattens them all in a single result. There is a
similar function in Haskell too.

Scala partition returns a 2-tuple. I'd like a similar functional function in
Phobos too, that doesn't touch the input range.

Bye,
bearophile
Jun 17 2011
parent reply Timon Gehr <timon.gehr gmx.ch> writes:
bearophile wrote:
 A nice video with readable slides, mostly about Scala collections:
 http://www.parleys.com/#id=2184&sl=71&st=5

 Martin Odersky looks like a very intelligent person (about as Hongwei Xi,
 author of ATS language).

 Scala collections look very integrated with each other and with
 functional-style programming. And they look good for parallelism too.

 A flatMap() sounds useful in Phobos. It means flat(map()) where map returns
 a small collection, and flat flattens them all in a single result. There is
 a similar function in Haskell too.

 Scala partition returns a 2-tuple. I'd like a similar functional function
 in Phobos too, that doesn't touch the input range.

 Bye,
 bearophile

Wow, neat. Thanks for sharing. I'm hardly halfway through, but I think we need to steal some Scala features sometime! =) It makes even D feel verbose. What I especially like: "var"/"val" are very short names for often used keywords. (not too descriptive though) Scala's way of doing the equivalent of inline delegates. (_.age < 18) vs (at least) (a){return a.age < 18;} or unaryFun!"a.age<18". List comprehensions. Is it maybe possible to get equivalent functionality and conciseness in a library solution? auto-return of last statement / def foo():Type=result for short function definitions. Infix functions and custom operators. Simple pattern matching (bearophile's well-known tuple unpacking sugar) Tuples. Tuples. Tuples. Cheers, Timon
Jun 17 2011
next sibling parent reply bearophile <bearophileHUGS lycos.com> writes:
Timon Gehr:

 I'm hardly halfway through, but I think we need to steal some Scala features
 sometime! =)

The most important features of Scala are in its refined type system. The things you underline aren't the most important ones.
 "var"/"val" are very short names for often used keywords. (not too descriptive
though)

In origin it was "invariant", then we have asked for "immutable", but now I like val better because it's shorter. I have seen D code use more "const" maybe just because "immutable" is a longer word.
 List comprehensions. Is it maybe possible to get equivalent functionality and
 conciseness in a library solution?

List comps are good to improve psychological chunking. In dlibs1 I have a select that apes them, but we are not there.
 Simple pattern matching (bearophile's well-known tuple unpacking sugar)

Scala pattern matching is far more than just unpacking tuples. But currently I don't miss it a lot. Bye, bearophile
Jun 17 2011
parent Timon Gehr <timon.gehr gmx.ch> writes:
bearophile wrote:
 Timon Gehr:

 I'm hardly halfway through, but I think we need to steal some Scala features
 sometime! =)

The most important features of Scala are in its refined type system. The things

I just underlined features I am somewhat missing from D. I think templates and CTFE can be used to build complex systems more easily than by using the caps of a refined type system. But I am definitely going to look into it. Apparently, it provides VERY nice means to define beautiful syntax in a library!
 "var"/"val" are very short names for often used keywords. (not too descriptive


 In origin it was "invariant", then we have asked for "immutable", but now I
like

because
 "immutable" is a longer word.

=(. Well, definition blocks help somewhat: immutable{ int a=8383,b=foo(); bool c=true; }
 List comprehensions. Is it maybe possible to get equivalent functionality and
 conciseness in a library solution?

List comps are good to improve psychological chunking. In dlibs1 I have a select

 Simple pattern matching (bearophile's well-known tuple unpacking sugar)

Scala pattern matching is far more than just unpacking tuples. But currently I

Yes, I only miss the most basic features too.
 Bye,
 bearophile

Cheers, - Timon
Jun 17 2011
prev sibling parent Russel Winder <russel russel.org.uk> writes:
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Jun 18 2011