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reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
about the changelog. Andrej Mitrovic has done a super awesome job with the 
changelog, and it is paying off big time.

I am very happy to be proven wrong about it.
May 30 2013
next sibling parent reply Paulo Pinto <pjmlp progtools.org> writes:
Am 30.05.2013 20:06, schrieb Walter Bright:
 about the changelog. Andrej Mitrovic has done a super awesome job with
 the changelog, and it is paying off big time.

 I am very happy to be proven wrong about it.

Reading it now, it looks great! Congratulations to Andrej as well!
May 30 2013
next sibling parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 5/30/13 3:44 PM, Timothee Cour wrote:
 shall we have both the current changelog for all releases + individual
 changelogs per release

 changelog.html // always latest version only; people go there by default
 changelog_all.html //same as current changelog.html
 changelog_2063.html
 changelog_2062.html
 etc

Agreed. Probably the nicest would be to have 3 releases in the changelog proper with "More..." at the bottom. Andrei
May 30 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Thu, 30 May 2013 16:10:05 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu  
<SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:

 On 5/30/13 3:44 PM, Timothee Cour wrote:
 shall we have both the current changelog for all releases + individual
 changelogs per release

 changelog.html // always latest version only; people go there by default
 changelog_all.html //same as current changelog.html
 changelog_2063.html
 changelog_2062.html
 etc

Agreed. Probably the nicest would be to have 3 releases in the changelog proper with "More..." at the bottom.

Well, one thing in there right now which is TOTALLY useless is having the list of versions 1/4 of the way down the page. -Steve
May 30 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:
On 2013-05-30 21:44, Timothee Cour wrote:
 shall we have both the current changelog for all releases + individual
 changelogs per release

 changelog.html // always latest version only; people go there by default
 changelog_all.html //same as current changelog.html
 changelog_2063.html
 changelog_2062.html

Don't know if the changelog_all is necessary. Just have links to the older versions from changelog.html. -- /Jacob Carlborg
May 31 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "Dicebot" <m.strashun gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 31 May 2013 at 08:38:11 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
 Don't know if the changelog_all is necessary. Just have links 
 to the older versions from changelog.html.

It is not necessary but is minor extra convenience for users not needing those 60+ extra links when they just want to check last changes.
May 31 2013
prev sibling parent "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Fri, 31 May 2013 04:38:10 -0400, Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> wrote:

 On 2013-05-30 21:44, Timothee Cour wrote:
 shall we have both the current changelog for all releases + individual
 changelogs per release

 changelog.html // always latest version only; people go there by default
 changelog_all.html //same as current changelog.html
 changelog_2063.html
 changelog_2062.html

Don't know if the changelog_all is necessary. Just have links to the older versions from changelog.html.

I use the "all" changelog to search for when certain features were added, or bugs were fixed. It's actually a handy page to use for that. -Steve
May 31 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent Timothee Cour <thelastmammoth gmail.com> writes:
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shall we have both the current changelog for all releases + individual
changelogs per release

changelog.html // always latest version only; people go there by default
changelog_all.html //same as current changelog.html
changelog_2063.html
changelog_2062.html
etc



On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Paulo Pinto <pjmlp progtools.org> wrote:

 Am 30.05.2013 20:06, schrieb Walter Bright:

  about the changelog. Andrej Mitrovic has done a super awesome job with
 the changelog, and it is paying off big time.

 I am very happy to be proven wrong about it.

Reading it now, it looks great! Congratulations to Andrej as well!

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May 30 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:
On Thu, 30 May 2013 12:44:28 -0700
Timothee Cour <thelastmammoth gmail.com> wrote:

 shall we have both the current changelog for all releases + individual
 changelogs per release
 
 changelog.html // always latest version only; people go there by
 default changelog_all.html //same as current changelog.html
 changelog_2063.html
 changelog_2062.html
 etc
 

Yea, I was thinking the same thing. Also, I think it'd be nice the have a (narrow) column along one side linking to the individual changelog pages: | Other | | Versions: | | | | 2.063 | | 2.062 | | 2.061 | | 2.060 | | 2.059 | | [etc...] | With the (fantastic) new changelog format, a list of all the other versions placed way at the bottom (or in between "latest release" and "previous release" for that matter) isn't very discoverable.
May 30 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent Marco Leise <Marco.Leise gmx.de> writes:
Am Thu, 30 May 2013 11:06:03 -0700
schrieb Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com>:

 about the changelog. Andrej Mitrovic has done a super awesome job with the 
 changelog, and it is paying off big time.
 
 I am very happy to be proven wrong about it.

It is good because a lot of work has gone into it. It's not just a question of manual or automatic creation. Did I say good? It's awesome Andrej! There is so much less WTF now for the language changes. Mostly you just want _some_ rationale to know that a change doesn't come out of the blue. And these compact presentations are much better at that than reading a lengthy bugzilla or forum thread. -- Marco
May 30 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "Rob T" <alanb ucora.com> writes:
On Thursday, 30 May 2013 at 18:06:03 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 about the changelog. Andrej Mitrovic has done a super awesome 
 job with the changelog, and it is paying off big time.

 I am very happy to be proven wrong about it.

Yes, this sort of improvement should never ever be underestimated for what it achieves. D looks much more professional and of a higher quality than ever before, and it's irrespective of the underlying code or technical merit. Much more popular languages may be less technically sound, but the high quality documentation and warm fuzzy feelings they provide help greatly to promote these languages. For myself, being able to see at a glance what version 2.063 delivers and what to expect when I upgrade is a huge improvement. Even if nothing was done other than to supply a better change log, I'd still buy it! --rt
May 30 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> writes:
On 5/30/13, Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> wrote:
 about the changelog. Andrej Mitrovic has done a super awesome job with the
 changelog, and it is paying off big time.

 I am very happy to be proven wrong about it.

I have to say I wasn't expecting that kind of a positive reaction from the community. But I'm glad they like it!
May 30 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "Dicebot" <m.strashun gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 30 May 2013 at 18:06:03 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 about the changelog. Andrej Mitrovic has done a super awesome 
 job with the changelog, and it is paying off big time.

 I am very happy to be proven wrong about it.

It is so good I could not have even expected to see something like that. Andrej, awesome!
May 31 2013
prev sibling parent "Tove" <tove fransson.se> writes:
On Friday, 31 May 2013 at 08:45:08 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
 On Thursday, 30 May 2013 at 18:06:03 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 about the changelog. Andrej Mitrovic has done a super awesome 
 job with the changelog, and it is paying off big time.

 I am very happy to be proven wrong about it.

It is so good I could not have even expected to see something like that. Andrej, awesome!

I agree the changelog is awesometastic, but the run button could need some tweaks...
May 31 2013