digitalmars.D - writing windows kernel mode code using D?
- Mike Carifio (6/6) Feb 06 2007 Can D be used to write Windows kernel mode code?
- Walter Bright (5/11) Feb 06 2007 I don't think so. Why not keep a notebook of your explorations on doing
- Mike Carifio (8/23) Feb 06 2007 Is that "Sure" as in "Yes, the compiler produces object code that the
- Thomas Kuehne (13/23) Feb 06 2007 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
- Walter Bright (6/30) Feb 06 2007 Anything you can do in C, you can do in D pretty much directly, with the...
- Kyle Furlong (11/48) Feb 07 2007 Having written part of a working kernel in D, I can say that low level
Can D be used to write Windows kernel mode code? Has someone written a tutorial to get started on this? In particular, I'm looking for a leg up on the port/miniport remote file system approach on Windows. This is a pretty difficult place to start learning D, but D also looks to be uniquely suited to do it.
Feb 06 2007
Mike Carifio wrote:Can D be used to write Windows kernel mode code?Sure.Has someone written a tutorial to get started on this?I don't think so. Why not keep a notebook of your explorations on doing this, and later turn it into an article? It could be a valuable contribution.In particular, I'm looking for a leg up on the port/miniport remote file system approach on Windows. This is a pretty difficult place to start learning D, but D also looks to be uniquely suited to do it.
Feb 06 2007
Walter Bright wrote:Mike Carifio wrote:Is that "Sure" as in "Yes, the compiler produces object code that the kernel can link" or "Sure" as in "Sure, why not? Tell us if you run into a wall"? Would garbage collection work for kernel mode memory management?Can D be used to write Windows kernel mode code?Sure.Sure. As in "Sure, why not? But I'm not very qualified to write something like this." Thanks.Has someone written a tutorial to get started on this?I don't think so. Why not keep a notebook of your explorations on doing this, and later turn it into an article? It could be a valuable contribution.In particular, I'm looking for a leg up on the port/miniport remote file system approach on Windows. This is a pretty difficult place to start learning D, but D also looks to be uniquely suited to do it.
Feb 06 2007
Thomas Kuehne <thomas-dloop kuehne.cn> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike Carifio schrieb am 2007-02-06:Walter Bright wrote:I've implemented a few Linux kernel modules in D.Mike Carifio wrote:Is that "Sure" as in "Yes, the compiler produces object code that the kernel can link" or "Sure" as in "Sure, why not? Tell us if you run into a wall"?Can D be used to write Windows kernel mode code?Sure.Would garbage collection work for kernel mode memory management?Yes, but the GC works only if it knows where to find potential pointers. Potential problems are the same as those encountered with different GC engines and multiple DLLs. Thomas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFFySFTLK5blCcjpWoRAqPWAJkBmBIteXaF01yhkJJ36XIZ8DRLIwCeJLrJ Pv5977JwgwBbR9HO82F51Gc= =PUzT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Feb 06 2007
Mike Carifio wrote:Walter Bright wrote:Anything you can do in C, you can do in D pretty much directly, with the same results.Mike Carifio wrote:Is that "Sure" as in "Yes, the compiler produces object code that the kernel can link" or "Sure" as in "Sure, why not? Tell us if you run into a wall"?Can D be used to write Windows kernel mode code?Sure.Would garbage collection work for kernel mode memory management?Probably not. But you can use malloc/free. You can use D just as you'd use C.The best way to get qualified is to just do it.Sure. As in "Sure, why not? But I'm not very qualified to write something like this."Has someone written a tutorial to get started on this?I don't think so. Why not keep a notebook of your explorations on doing this, and later turn it into an article? It could be a valuable contribution.In particular, I'm looking for a leg up on the port/miniport remote file system approach on Windows. This is a pretty difficult place to start learning D, but D also looks to be uniquely suited to do it.
Feb 06 2007
Walter Bright wrote:Mike Carifio wrote:Having written part of a working kernel in D, I can say that low level programming in D compared to C is an order of magnitude better. Modules, fast and easy compilation, DbC, and all the rest makes this sort of programming less tiresome and more productive. All we needed other than D was an asm boot loader. I might even go so far to say that its a BAD thing, because dangerous code (i.e. kernel level code) shouldn't be easy to write. That said, we never got to the step of getting the gc up and running (mainly for lack of a memory subsystem :D), so I cant comment on that portion of the question.Walter Bright wrote:Anything you can do in C, you can do in D pretty much directly, with the same results.Mike Carifio wrote:Is that "Sure" as in "Yes, the compiler produces object code that the kernel can link" or "Sure" as in "Sure, why not? Tell us if you run into a wall"?Can D be used to write Windows kernel mode code?Sure.Would garbage collection work for kernel mode memory management?Probably not. But you can use malloc/free. You can use D just as you'd use C.The best way to get qualified is to just do it.Sure. As in "Sure, why not? But I'm not very qualified to write something like this."Has someone written a tutorial to get started on this?I don't think so. Why not keep a notebook of your explorations on doing this, and later turn it into an article? It could be a valuable contribution.In particular, I'm looking for a leg up on the port/miniport remote file system approach on Windows. This is a pretty difficult place to start learning D, but D also looks to be uniquely suited to do it.
Feb 07 2007