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reply %u <foo bar.com> writes:
Hello.  I downloaded gtkD MS Windows installer, and I tried to
compile one of the examples shown on the gtkD website:

http://www.dsource.org/projects/gtkd

The example is below along with the problem:

import gtk.MainWindow;
import gtk.Label;
import gtk.Main;

void main(string[] args)
{
	Main.init(args);
	MainWindow win = new MainWindow("Hello World");
	win.setDefaultSize(200, 100);
	win.add(new Label("Hello World"));
	win.showAll();

	Main.run();
}


When I compile the above code, I get the following problem:


$ dmd HelloGUI.d
HelloGUI.d(1): Error: module MainWindow is in file
'gtk\MainWindow.d' which cannot be read
import path[0] = C:\D\dmd2\windows\bin\..\..\src\phobos
import path[1] = C:\D\dmd2\windows\bin\..\..\src\druntime\import


If I look at my path I see that the path to gtk was installed by
the windows installer:

/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/cygdrive/c/Windows/system32:/cygdrive/c/Wi
ndows:/cygdrive/c/Windows/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/Windows/System3
2/WindowsPowerShell/v1.0:/cygdrive/c/D/dmd2/windows/bin:/cygdrive/c
/D/dm/bin:/cygdrive/c/D/dmd/windows/bin:/cygdrive/c/Program Files
(x86)/QuickTime/QTSystem:/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/GTK2-
Runtime/bin:/usr/lib/lapack


My dmd version is:


$ dmd -v
DMD32 D Compiler v2.055
Copyright (c) 1999-2011 by Digital Mars written by Walter Bright
Documentation: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/index.html
Usage:


Finally, is gtkD the way to go when it comes to learning gui with
D?  Which gui is the most popular with D?  Which one has a future?
And which is the easiest to learn?

thanks.
Oct 18 2011
next sibling parent Jordi Sayol <g.sayol yahoo.es> writes:
Al 18/10/11 16:44, En/na %u ha escrit:

 Hello.  I downloaded gtkD MS Windows installer, and I tried to
 compile one of the examples shown on the gtkD website:
=20
 http://www.dsource.org/projects/gtkd
=20


There is not GtkD MS Windows installer on gtkd site, You've installed gtk=
+ runtime.

So, you have to compile and install GtkD yourself on your system.

Take a look at http://dsource.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3D5129

Regards,
--=20
Jordi Sayol
Oct 18 2011
prev sibling next sibling parent Jordi Sayol <g.sayol yahoo.es> writes:
Al 18/10/11 17:08, En/na Jordi Sayol ha escrit:

 Al 18/10/11 16:44, En/na %u ha escrit:

 Hello.  I downloaded gtkD MS Windows installer, and I tried to
 compile one of the examples shown on the gtkD website:

 http://www.dsource.org/projects/gtkd


=20
 There is not GtkD MS Windows installer on gtkd site, You've installed g=


tk+ runtime.

=20
 So, you have to compile and install GtkD yourself on your system.
=20
 Take a look at http://dsource.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3D5129
=20


If you want GtkD out of the box, there are compiled packages ready for li=
nux on gtkd site:
http://www.dsource.org/projects/gtkd/wiki/DebianPackages
http://www.dsource.org/projects/gtkd/wiki/FedoraPackages

Regards,
--=20
Jordi Sayol
Oct 18 2011
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Adrian Mercieca <amercieca gmail.com> writes:
Hi all,

I would be interested in having a closer look at gtkD.
Is there any documentation/tutorial available anywhere?

Thanks.


On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:44:24 +0000, %u wrote:
Oct 22 2011
parent reply Jordi Sayol <g.sayol yahoo.es> writes:
Al 23/10/11 07:35, En/na Adrian Mercieca ha escrit:

 Hi all,
=20
 I would be interested in having a closer look at gtkD.
 Is there any documentation/tutorial available anywhere?
=20
 Thanks.
=20


Here You can find a GtkD tutorial in German and it's translation to Engli=
sh (this last one may be improved).

http://www.dsource.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3D5525

Regards,
--=20
Jordi Sayol
Oct 24 2011
parent Adrian Mercieca <amercieca gmail.com> writes:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:15:57 +0200, Jordi Sayol wrote:


 Al 23/10/11 07:35, En/na Adrian Mercieca ha escrit:

 Hi all,
 
 I would be interested in having a closer look at gtkD. Is there any
 documentation/tutorial available anywhere?
 
 Thanks.
 
 


 Here You can find a GtkD tutorial in German and it's translation to
 English (this last one may be improved).
 
 http://www.dsource.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5525
 
 Regards,




Hi,

Thanks for the link; much appreciated.

- Adrian.
Oct 27 2011
prev sibling parent reply "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"%u" <foo bar.com> wrote in message news:j7k3c7$25jg$1 digitalmars.com...

 Finally, is gtkD the way to go when it comes to learning gui with
 D?  Which gui is the most popular with D?  Which one has a future?
 And which is the easiest to learn?


IMO, GTK itself (ie, not just gtkD) is terrbile from an end-user standpoint 
(ie, garbage non-native controls), so I try to recommend against it.

I haven't really done any GUI stuff in D, so I can't really recommend 
anything in particular, but the ones I would look at are wxD (wxWidgets), 
DWT (SWT) and maybe qtD (Qt).
Oct 24 2011
parent reply Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> writes:
On 10/24/11, Nick Sabalausky <a a.a> wrote:

 (ie, garbage non-native controls)


In reality you don't even need to use native controls to create a true
native look. In fact using true native controls is expensive, and even
IE/Office use custom-drawn widgets that only appear native.

There are theming API's in XP+ systems which for example Qt uses to
make all widgets appear native (even if you use a custom theme). I
think they still had to "simulate" the feel of some of the controls
(scroll bars, ok/cancel button positions), but that's not too
difficult to do. What Qt doesn't simulate are the common controls
(e.g. file open dialogs), they just invoke an API function for that.

AFAIK Gtk does none of those things. You can still use common controls
for file dialogs, but I've yet to see any Gtk programmer do this.
Oct 24 2011
parent "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"Andrej Mitrovic" <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:mailman.367.1319465270.24802.digitalmars-d-learn puremagic.com...

 On 10/24/11, Nick Sabalausky <a a.a> wrote:

 (ie, garbage non-native controls)


 In reality you don't even need to use native controls to create a true
 native look. In fact using true native controls is expensive, and even
 IE/Office use custom-drawn widgets that only appear native.

 There are theming API's in XP+ systems which for example Qt uses to
 make all widgets appear native (even if you use a custom theme). I
 think they still had to "simulate" the feel of some of the controls
 (scroll bars, ok/cancel button positions), but that's not too
 difficult to do.


It's difficult to get all the subtle details right. For example, if you've 
been using non-native-UI apps in XP (as I'm always cursed to do), then task 
switching gets all fucked up. You'll click on a task button in the taskbar 
or alt-tab, and some random *other* program will pop to the front before the 
one you selected. Doesn't happen if you've only been using native-control 
apps. Irritating as hell.


 What Qt doesn't simulate are the common controls
 (e.g. file open dialogs), they just invoke an API function for that.

 AFAIK Gtk does none of those things.


Exactly. The damn thing doesn't even *try* to fit in properly.


 You can still use common controls
 for file dialogs, but I've yet to see any Gtk programmer do this.


Luckily Inkscape does. I really wish GIMP would (but it's clear that GIMP 
will never get a halfway decent interaface outside of a fork. Not too 
surprising since, AIUI, GIMP is to blame for GTK's existance in the first 
place).
Oct 24 2011