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reply Suliman <evermind live.ru> writes:
It's seems that __treats is language keyword that help to get 
info from compile-time. But there is also lib named std.traits

and I can't understand difference

https://dlang.org/spec/traits.html
https://dlang.org/phobos/std_traits.html

Could you explain the difference?
Sep 21 2016
parent reply rikki cattermole <rikki cattermole.co.nz> writes:
On 21/09/2016 7:06 PM, Suliman wrote:
 It's seems that __treats is language keyword that help to get info from
 compile-time. But there is also lib named std.traits

 and I can't understand difference

 https://dlang.org/spec/traits.html
 https://dlang.org/phobos/std_traits.html

 Could you explain the difference?
Simple, __traits or __treats as you called it is implemented by the compiler. But std.traits is all implemented in the standard library as user D code. If you can do it with std.traits you should. Otherwise __traits. So std.traits is a bit higher level and there are more things available there as adding more __traits is a bit rare.
Sep 21 2016
parent reply Suliman <evermind live.ru> writes:
On Wednesday, 21 September 2016 at 07:09:01 UTC, rikki cattermole 
wrote:
 On 21/09/2016 7:06 PM, Suliman wrote:
 It's seems that __treats is language keyword that help to get 
 info from
 compile-time. But there is also lib named std.traits

 and I can't understand difference

 https://dlang.org/spec/traits.html
 https://dlang.org/phobos/std_traits.html

 Could you explain the difference?
Simple, __traits or __treats as you called it is implemented by the compiler. But std.traits is all implemented in the standard library as user D code. If you can do it with std.traits you should. Otherwise __traits. So std.traits is a bit higher level and there are more things available there as adding more __traits is a bit rare.
So for example to get All Members of class I should use allMembers from __traits, because it's seems that std.traits do not have such future.
Sep 21 2016
next sibling parent rikki cattermole <rikki cattermole.co.nz> writes:
On 21/09/2016 7:38 PM, Suliman wrote:
 On Wednesday, 21 September 2016 at 07:09:01 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote:
 On 21/09/2016 7:06 PM, Suliman wrote:
 It's seems that __treats is language keyword that help to get info from
 compile-time. But there is also lib named std.traits

 and I can't understand difference

 https://dlang.org/spec/traits.html
 https://dlang.org/phobos/std_traits.html

 Could you explain the difference?
Simple, __traits or __treats as you called it is implemented by the compiler. But std.traits is all implemented in the standard library as user D code. If you can do it with std.traits you should. Otherwise __traits. So std.traits is a bit higher level and there are more things available there as adding more __traits is a bit rare.
So for example to get All Members of class I should use allMembers from __traits, because it's seems that std.traits do not have such future.
Yeah exactly.
Sep 21 2016
prev sibling parent Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On 9/21/16 3:38 AM, Suliman wrote:
 On Wednesday, 21 September 2016 at 07:09:01 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote:
 On 21/09/2016 7:06 PM, Suliman wrote:
 It's seems that __treats is language keyword that help to get info from
 compile-time. But there is also lib named std.traits

 and I can't understand difference

 https://dlang.org/spec/traits.html
 https://dlang.org/phobos/std_traits.html

 Could you explain the difference?
Simple, __traits or __treats as you called it is implemented by the compiler. But std.traits is all implemented in the standard library as user D code. If you can do it with std.traits you should. Otherwise __traits. So std.traits is a bit higher level and there are more things available there as adding more __traits is a bit rare.
So for example to get All Members of class I should use allMembers from __traits, because it's seems that std.traits do not have such future.
Yes, you can think of __traits as the basic building blocks the compiler provides, and std.traits as providing more features using those building blocks. -Steve
Sep 21 2016