digitalmars.D - if you cannot beat them (Rust), then why not ... use them? :-) Ann:
- yl (46/46) Jun 03 2022 Hi,
- Jack (3/8) Jun 03 2022 well, if there's something that Rust is better but I can use D
- =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= (4/6) Jun 03 2022 Now there is ImportC in the language, getting improved and bugs fixed:
- zjh (2/2) Jun 03 2022 On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 17:38:23 UTC, yl wrote:
- test123 (2/6) Jun 16 2022 just try your project, work very well.
Hi, Rust has emerged as Linux’s second official language [0]. It's a clear win, and all the response from the big companies in the industry have been positive, e.g. [1]. D is trying to catch up, and Walter started the work on borrow checker ~3 years ago [2], but shall the D community wait for it? And even if it get into D, how much more man power are needed to build all these libraries [3]: 85,142 crates, 16,783,226,701 downloads? and how long you think it will take? Right now D has 2185 packages [4], by this rough estimate, the Rust community is ~40x time bigger than D's. (There is no total downloads stats on [4], so we do not know the actual D libraries usage). While Walter is trying to join them, shall we D users ... use them ... *now*? :-) I think we should. Rust has f.f.i to C, and there is a utility `cbindgen` [5] which can create C/C++11 headers for Rust libraries which expose a public C API; and on the D side, we have dpp [6] and dstep [7] to make D talks to C very easily. And of course, we also have -betterC :-) So I just created this wrapper library to make those high performant, memory safe Rust library available to D users: https://code.dlang.org/packages/rust_interop_d and started with these 2 containers: * DashMap: is an implementation of a concurrent associative array/hashmap in Rust. dashmap-5.3.4 Blazing fast concurrent HashMap for Rust. [8] * SegQueue: An unbounded multi-producer multi-consumer queue. [9] Since I'm new to Rust, I want to call for help / contributions if you know Rust and want to use some of their high quality libraries from D. Esp. since Rust does not have GC, those of you who want nogc D libraries now clearly have an alternative. So, let's start D-Rusting :-) [0] https://www.techzine.eu/news/devops/69453/rust-emerges-as-linuxs-second-official-language/ [1] https://msrc-blog.microsoft.com/2019/07/22/why-rust-for-safe-systems-programming/ [2] https://dlang.org/blog/2019/07/15/ownership-and-borrowing-in-d/ [3] https://crates.io/ [4] https://code.dlang.org/ [5] https://github.com/eqrion/cbindgen [6] https://code.dlang.org/packages/dpp [7] https://code.dlang.org/packages/dstep [8] https://docs.rs/dashmap/5.3.4/dashmap/struct.DashMap.html [9] https://docs.rs/crossbeam-queue/0.3.5/crossbeam_queue/struct.SegQueue.html
Jun 03 2022
Jack <jckj33 gmail.com> On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 17:38:23 UTC, yl wrote:Hi, Rust has emerged as Linux’s second official language [0]. It's a clear win, and all the response from the big companies in the industry have been positive, e.g. [1]. [...]well, if there's something that Rust is better but I can use D from D, hell yeah let's do it but i hope it's temporary tho
Jun 03 2022
On 6/3/22 10:38, yl wrote:on the D side, we have dpp [6] and dstep [7] to make D talks to C very easily.Now there is ImportC in the language, getting improved and bugs fixed: https://dlang.org/spec/importc.html Ali
Jun 03 2022
On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 17:38:23 UTC, yl wrote: Yes, use `rust` to defeat `rust`.
Jun 03 2022
On Friday, 3 June 2022 at 17:38:23 UTC, yl wrote:Hi, Rust has emerged as Linux’s second official language [0]. It's a clear win, and all the response from the big companies in the industry have been positive, e.g. [1].just try your project, work very well.
Jun 16 2022