• Ty Tower (13/13) Feb 20 2008 I find in the above file a reference to phobos which possibly should not...
• Ty Tower (5/5) Feb 21 2008 Ok I removed it and the line goes like this
• John Reimer (17/24) Feb 21 2008 The advice here is for dwt... not dsss, not tango. If you get help with...
• Ty Tower (6/35) Feb 21 2008 You will deny it to the last breath
• John Reimer (22/29) Feb 21 2008 You don't know me, Ty, so please don't make assumptions as to what I
• Ty Tower (9/45) Feb 22 2008 I am the newbie asking the questions . I am allowed to be wrong thats wh...
• John Reimer (3/49) Feb 22 2008 Fair enough... you are not one to be reasoned with. I will no longer tr...
• Ty Tower (1/1) Feb 22 2008 Depends on your reasoning

Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:

I find in the above file a reference to phobos which possibly should not be
there. 

The file is used as the unix choice default file for /etc/rebuild/default
Or at least thats what I think happens.

it has this in it

[link]
oneatatime=yes
cmd=dmd -L--start-group -lphobos $i -of$o

This is causing a conflict here and I have tried the following but something is
still not right 


[link]
oneatatime=yes
cmd=dmd -L--start-group -L-ltango-base-dmd -L-ltango-user-dmd -L--end-group $i
-of$o
  Can anybody spot the problem or the solution ?
Is the phobos reference correct here?

Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:

Ok I removed it and the line goes like this

cmd=dmd  $i -of$o

Did this and the bloody thing compiled instantly
So much for the advice here hey!
Not worth 2 bob

John Reimer <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:

Ty Tower wrote:
 Ok I removed it and the line goes like this
 
 cmd=dmd  $i -of$o
 
 Did this and the bloody thing compiled instantly
 So much for the advice here hey!
 Not worth 2 bob


The advice here is for dwt... not dsss, not tango.  If you get help with 
that, bonus for you.

Concerning the phobos entry in tango-posix-dmd, earlier versions of the 
compiled tango core library had to be renamed libphobos.a because of a 
compiler limitation. More recent versions of the dmd compiler added a 
switch that allowed one to identify a core library of a different name 
with the "-defaultlib" switch.  So naming it phobos above was and still 
is a valid install, as long as you have actually installed tango this way.

Furthermore, you've shown in another post that there were problems that 
were completely unrelated to dwt but rather were due to faults in your 
installation and system.  Throughout your many posts, you were wrong to 
assume that it was the fault of this forum or of the members that were 
trying to help.  Your reactions of disgust and rudeness were also wrong. 
  The fact that those who responded to your posts answered so graciously 
is quite amazing.

-JJR

Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:

John Reimer Wrote:

 Ty Tower wrote:
 Ok I removed it and the line goes like this
 
 cmd=dmd  $i -of$o
 
 Did this and the bloody thing compiled instantly
 So much for the advice here hey!
 Not worth 2 bob

 
 
 The advice here is for dwt... not dsss, not tango.  If you get help with 
 that, bonus for you.
 
 Concerning the phobos entry in tango-posix-dmd, earlier versions of the 
 compiled tango core library had to be renamed libphobos.a because of a 
 compiler limitation. More recent versions of the dmd compiler added a 
 switch that allowed one to identify a core library of a different name 
 with the "-defaultlib" switch.  So naming it phobos above was and still 
 is a valid install, as long as you have actually installed tango this way.
 
 Furthermore, you've shown in another post that there were problems that 
 were completely unrelated to dwt but rather were due to faults in your 
 installation and system.  Throughout your many posts, you were wrong to 
 assume that it was the fault of this forum or of the members that were 
 trying to help.  Your reactions of disgust and rudeness were also wrong. 
   The fact that those who responded to your posts answered so graciously 
 is quite amazing.
 
 -JJR


You will deny it to the last breath
The switch is wrong and must be changed --that means it is not right John !

Jesse's posts were ,as far as I looked into each answer, also wrong and
misleading
the one relating to -lXdamage for instance. He made the statement "one problem
leads to another "under his rant. That was wrong - the libraries wern't as they
should be admittedly but the post was totally misleading .

If you can't stand criticism and constructive criticism at that then don't post

John Reimer <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:

Ty Tower wrote:

 You will deny it to the last breath
 The switch is wrong and must be changed --that means it is not right John !
 


You don't know me, Ty, so please don't make assumptions as to what I 
will or will not do.  What I said there is that the switch has a reason 
for its existence.  Depending on how you installed Tango, it is either 
correct or incorrect.

Incidentally, it is correct for my tango installation because I still 
rename the tango lib as Phobos (I ran into problems when I used the 
"defaultlib" switch). So, your statement remains quite presumptuous and 
  reactively dogmatic.


 Jesse's posts were ,as far as I looked into each answer, also wrong and
misleading
 the one relating to -lXdamage for instance. He made the statement "one problem
leads to another "under his rant. That was wrong - the libraries wern't as they
should be admittedly but the post was totally misleading .
 


If that is the case, I have to say that yours were more so.


 If you can't stand criticism and constructive criticism at that then don't post


That would be good advice for both of us perhaps?  You appear to be 
responding quite poorly to constructive criticism.  We both appear to 
like calling a spade a spade... but you appear to be entirely 
unreceptive, and, in fact, quite inflammatory to the merest suggestion 
that you might be wrong.  Wouldn't we both get further with each other 
with more gracious responses?

You know I've already admitted the shortcomings of dwt project 
instructions... we've gone out of our way to rectify the situation 
(thanks to Jacob's contribution we're moving in the right direction), so 
I'd say we have been moderately responsive to constructive criticism 
despite everybody's excessively busy schedules.

-JJR

Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:

John Reimer Wrote:
 You don't know me, Ty, so please don't make assumptions as to what I 
 will or will not do.  What I said there is that the switch has a reason 
 for its existence.  Depending on how you installed Tango, it is either 
 correct or incorrect.
 
 Incidentally, it is correct for my tango installation because I still 
 rename the tango lib as Phobos (I ran into problems when I used the 
 "defaultlib" switch). So, your statement remains quite presumptuous and 
   reactively dogmatic.
 

garbage again -the latest install does not and did not tell me to rename Tango
to Phobos and neither did you . You could have suggested that . You didn't I
don't care much merely make the point
 
 Jesse's posts were ,as far as I looked into each answer, also wrong and
misleading
 the one relating to -lXdamage for instance. He made the statement "one problem
leads to another "under his rant. That was wrong - the libraries wern't as they
should be admittedly but the post was totally misleading .
 

 
 
 If that is the case, I have to say that yours were more so.
 

I am the newbie asking the questions . I am allowed to be wrong thats what the
posts are for and I admit readily to my errors , you and he obviously do not
 
 If you can't stand criticism and constructive criticism at that then don't post

 
 
 That would be good advice for both of us perhaps?  You appear to be 
 responding quite poorly to constructive criticism.  We both appear to 
 like calling a spade a spade... but you appear to be entirely 
 unreceptive, and, in fact, quite inflammatory to the merest suggestion 
 that you might be wrong.  Wouldn't we both get further with each other 
 with more gracious responses?
 

Thats garbage John-I readilly admit my mistakes  and there have been a few here 
You want gracious responses go practice in a poofs bar mate- there's plenty in
Melb no?

 You know I've already admitted the shortcomings of dwt project 
 instructions... we've gone out of our way to rectify the situation 
 (thanks to Jacob's contribution we're moving in the right direction), so 
 I'd say we have been moderately responsive to constructive criticism 
 despite everybody's excessively busy schedules.
 
 -JJR

Well I didn't get much real help looking back at what the problems really were 
and I hoped that by pasting the compilers output I might get a hand from
experienced people with this particular dwt. I still have a problem with the
custom control examples which no one has  answered and I am assuming there
aren't many knowledgeable people available on here. 

I know now and knew then there would be some problems with dwt. Fully expected
that ,but I said before you must give some priority now to getting a clear
install page for both windows and unix. 

If someone has a go at me John they are going to get some back quick smart.
Just the way I am. I have been downloading and installing what was new stuff
for me in D , dsss and dwt/dwtexamples. Ive been trying to get it installed for
near 3 weeks and have not got to the end of it yet. At least I'm close.

If I were developing this I would be asking for as much feedback as possible
regardless of content , at least till I got it running.

John Reimer <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:

Ty Tower wrote:
 John Reimer Wrote:
 You don't know me, Ty, so please don't make assumptions as to what I 
 will or will not do.  What I said there is that the switch has a reason 
 for its existence.  Depending on how you installed Tango, it is either 
 correct or incorrect.

 Incidentally, it is correct for my tango installation because I still 
 rename the tango lib as Phobos (I ran into problems when I used the 
 "defaultlib" switch). So, your statement remains quite presumptuous and 
   reactively dogmatic.

 
 garbage again -the latest install does not and did not tell me to rename Tango
to Phobos and neither did you . You could have suggested that . You didn't I
don't care much merely make the point
 Jesse's posts were ,as far as I looked into each answer, also wrong and
misleading
 the one relating to -lXdamage for instance. He made the statement "one problem
leads to another "under his rant. That was wrong - the libraries wern't as they
should be admittedly but the post was totally misleading .

 If that is the case, I have to say that yours were more so.

 I am the newbie asking the questions . I am allowed to be wrong thats what the
posts are for and I admit readily to my errors , you and he obviously do not
 If you can't stand criticism and constructive criticism at that then don't post

 That would be good advice for both of us perhaps?  You appear to be 
 responding quite poorly to constructive criticism.  We both appear to 
 like calling a spade a spade... but you appear to be entirely 
 unreceptive, and, in fact, quite inflammatory to the merest suggestion 
 that you might be wrong.  Wouldn't we both get further with each other 
 with more gracious responses?

 Thats garbage John-I readilly admit my mistakes  and there have been a few
here 
 You want gracious responses go practice in a poofs bar mate- there's plenty in
Melb no?
 
 You know I've already admitted the shortcomings of dwt project 
 instructions... we've gone out of our way to rectify the situation 
 (thanks to Jacob's contribution we're moving in the right direction), so 
 I'd say we have been moderately responsive to constructive criticism 
 despite everybody's excessively busy schedules.

 -JJR

 Well I didn't get much real help looking back at what the problems really were
 and I hoped that by pasting the compilers output I might get a hand from
experienced people with this particular dwt. I still have a problem with the
custom control examples which no one has  answered and I am assuming there
aren't many knowledgeable people available on here. 
 
 I know now and knew then there would be some problems with dwt. Fully expected
that ,but I said before you must give some priority now to getting a clear
install page for both windows and unix. 
 
 If someone has a go at me John they are going to get some back quick smart.
Just the way I am. I have been downloading and installing what was new stuff
for me in D , dsss and dwt/dwtexamples. Ive been trying to get it installed for
near 3 weeks and have not got to the end of it yet. At least I'm close.
 
 If I were developing this I would be asking for as much feedback as possible
regardless of content , at least till I got it running.


Fair enough... you are not one to be reasoned with.  I will no longer try.

-JJR

Ty Tower <tytower hotmail.com.au> writes:

Depends on your reasoning