• Iain Buclaw (2/2) Oct 04 2011 My worst kept secret is out.
• Andrew Wiley (2/4) Oct 04 2011 :D x 1000
• Jonathan M Davis (5/8) Oct 04 2011 *Sigh* They gave the link to the old site rather than the d-programming-
• Caligo (3/12) Oct 04 2011 Walter said he would fix this:
• Jacob Carlborg (4/6) Oct 04 2011 This is great news.
• dsimcha (8/10) Oct 05 2011 Awesome! Two things, though:
• Iain Buclaw (8/19) Oct 05 2011 I would imagine that the official releases would be 1 frontend version b...
• Nick Sabalausky (4/9) Oct 05 2011 Even if this is an issue at first, I'd bet it will become less and less
• Andrej Mitrovic (3/3) Oct 05 2011 Maybe if this was posted on Reddit it would get some vocal support and
• Leandro Lucarella (9/13) Oct 06 2011 Great news indeed! Congrats!
• Robert McGinley (4/14) Oct 05 2011 d-programming-
• Steve Teale (9/9) Oct 06 2011 Iain,
• Trass3r (1/3) Oct 06 2011 Of course it is way faster. You should compare with gcc instead.
• Steve Teale (3/3) Oct 07 2011 Are you saying that GDC is way faster?
• Trass3r (10/11) Oct 07 2011 Yep. Especially for floating point calculations.

Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw ubuntu.com> writes:

My worst kept secret is out.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk2NA

Andrew Wiley <wiley.andrew.j gmail.com> writes:

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw ubuntu.com> wrote:
 My worst kept secret is out.

 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk2NA

:D x 1000

Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg gmx.com> writes:

On Wednesday, October 05, 2011 03:50:35 Iain Buclaw wrote:
 My worst kept secret is out.
 
 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk2NA

*Sigh* They gave the link to the old site rather than the d-programming-
language.org, and since www.digitialmars.com only redirects on the main page, 
the link doesn't get redirected to the correct place.

- Jonathan M Davis

Caligo <iteronvexor gmail.com> writes:

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg gmx.com>wrote:

 On Wednesday, October 05, 2011 03:50:35 Iain Buclaw wrote:
 My worst kept secret is out.

 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk2NA

 *Sigh* They gave the link to the old site rather than the d-programming-
 language.org, and since www.digitialmars.com only redirects on the main
 page,
 the link doesn't get redirected to the correct place.

 - Jonathan M Davis


Walter said he would fix this:
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/Why_I_m_hesitating_to_switch_to_D_139517.html#N139559

Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:

On 2011-10-05 05:50, Iain Buclaw wrote:
 My worst kept secret is out.

 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk2NA

This is great news.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg

dsimcha <dsimcha yahoo.com> writes:

On 10/4/2011 11:50 PM, Iain Buclaw wrote:
 My worst kept secret is out.

 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk2NA

Awesome!  Two things, though:

1.  When will this actually happen?  Is GCC 4.7 going to have GDC in it?

2.  How will the impedance mismatch between DMD Front End's fast release 
cycle and GCC's slower release cycle be handled?  I'm definitely not 
going to use the "official" version of GDC packaged with my Linux distro 
or MinGW or whatever when the front end is several versions out of date 
and each front end update contains major bug fixes and additions to Phobos.

Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw ubuntu.com> writes:

== Quote from dsimcha (dsimcha yahoo.com)'s article
 On 10/4/2011 11:50 PM, Iain Buclaw wrote:
 My worst kept secret is out.

 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk2NA

 Awesome!  Two things, though:
 1.  When will this actually happen?  Is GCC 4.7 going to have GDC in it?

Can't say. Hopefully things will be in before the 4.7 development window closes.

 2.  How will the impedance mismatch between DMD Front End's fast release
 cycle and GCC's slower release cycle be handled?  I'm definitely not
 going to use the "official" version of GDC packaged with my Linux distro
 or MinGW or whatever when the front end is several versions out of date
 and each front end update contains major bug fixes and additions to Phobos.

I would imagine that the official releases would be 1 frontend version behind
DMD
- given that there is a 2 month period of bug-fixes only before release. Whilst
the development trunk/snapshots will remain in sync.

Again, can't really say - it's too soon to be asking this. :~)


Regards
Iain

"Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:

"dsimcha" <dsimcha yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:j6hkec$7lb$1 digitalmars.com...
 2.  How will the impedance mismatch between DMD Front End's fast release 
 cycle and GCC's slower release cycle be handled?  I'm definitely not going 
 to use the "official" version of GDC packaged with my Linux distro or 
 MinGW or whatever when the front end is several versions out of date and 
 each front end update contains major bug fixes and additions to Phobos.

Even if this is an issue at first, I'd bet it will become less and less 
significant as DMD/Phobos improve and solidify. 

Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> writes:

Maybe if this was posted on Reddit it would get some vocal support and
give the GNU guys reassurance that D is a sought-after language.

Anyway this is great news! Congrats to Iain Buclaw and anyone else who helped.

Leandro Lucarella <luca llucax.com.ar> writes:

Andrej Mitrovic, el  6 de octubre a las 00:34 me escribiste:
 Maybe if this was posted on Reddit it would get some vocal support and
 give the GNU guys reassurance that D is a sought-after language.
 
 Anyway this is great news! Congrats to Iain Buclaw and anyone else who helped.

Great news indeed! Congrats!

-- 
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Robert McGinley <mcginley.robert gmail.com> writes:

Why not just write a redirect rule from the old D pages to the new ones?

On Oct 4, 2011, at 11:55 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:

 On Wednesday, October 05, 2011 03:50:35 Iain Buclaw wrote:
 My worst kept secret is out.
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 - Jonathan M Davis

Steve Teale <steve.teale britseyeview.com> writes:

Iain,

You've made a cross for yourself there! If you need help with grunt tasks -
like a
broken piece of D code with a decent description of the problem, or even
grunter,
I might be able to help. As you know, I've been in those muddy waters before
with
nobody to even consult. With a guru like you I could probably get moving fairly
quickly.

Just as a matter of interest, how do you rate GDC 2.055 for speed alongside the
Linux DMD.

Steve

Trass3r <un known.com> writes:

 Just as a matter of interest, how do you rate GDC 2.055 for speed  
 alongside the Linux DMD.

Of course it is way faster. You should compare with gcc instead.

Steve Teale <steve.teale britseyeview.com> writes:

Are you saying that GDC is way faster?

But I take your point.

Steve

Trass3r <un known.com> writes:

Am 07.10.2011, 13:28 Uhr, schrieb Steve Teale  
<steve.teale britseyeview.com>:

 Are you saying that GDC is way faster?

Yep. Especially for floating point calculations.

Worst-case scenario for dmd:
http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d puremagic.com/msg61860.html
(be sure to read through the whole thread though, I refined my post later  
and then gdc and ldc were on par with C++ while dmd is still slower than  
javascript.)

Another test:
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/path_tracing_benchmark_142014.html