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digitalmars.D.announce - Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the

reply Murilo <murilomiranda92 hotmail.com> writes:
In the past 2 weeks we went from 225 to 240 members in our 
Facebook 
group(https://www.facebook.com/groups/ProgrammingInDlang), an 
average of a person per day. First it was an average of a person 
per month or less. I wonder if someone has advertised the group 
or the world is finally embracing Dlang now.

In 2018 I didn't find a single Dlang Facebook active group, there 
were 1 or 2 very old groups with no members. So I created one and 
I've been working hard to make it official and big, it worked! At 
first I added my friends list to give it number but then, as 
people joined it, I removed all of my friends and left only 
people who joined voluntarily, there were only 150, over time it 
grew to 225 and now we are getting close to 250.

At first there was only a post per week, all posted by me, now I 
don't need to post something every week because the members are 
already doing it themselves, there is regular activity including 
posts and discussions.

I'm very happy, at first the people here did not like my idea, 
they thought a Facebook group was unnecessary, but what is the 
biggest social media in the world? Facebook! So that's is the 
best way to communicate with the world and advertise Dlang.

Cheers.
Dec 28 2020
next sibling parent bachmeier <no spam.net> writes:
On Monday, 28 December 2020 at 17:31:21 UTC, Murilo wrote:


 I'm very happy, at first the people here did not like my idea, 
 they thought a Facebook group was unnecessary, but what is the 
 biggest social media in the world? Facebook! So that's is the 
 best way to communicate with the world and advertise Dlang.


I'm happy to hear your group is growing. I do have to disagree 
with your last sentence. Any information you post on Facebook is 
posted into a black hole. It can be an effective way to make 
announcements if you have a really big group of followers (or 
friends or whatever they call them these days), but it's 
definitely not a good idea for information you want archived for 
the long run.
Dec 28 2020
prev sibling next sibling parent reply =?UTF-8?Q?Ali_=c3=87ehreli?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 12/28/20 9:31 AM, Murilo wrote:


 they thought a Facebook group was unnecessary,


Not only unnecessary but divisive as well. For example, because I will 
never have a Facebook account I would never be a part of that group. So, 
can the open source community be a part of Facebook groups *without* a 
Facebook account? Even if the groups would be open to the public, why 
would advertisements be a part of a D group? (I don't want to go more 
off-topic here but I would love to discuss Facebook over your favorite 
drink.)


 but what is the biggest social media in the world? Facebook!


Good for them. :)

Ali
Dec 28 2020
next sibling parent Daniel Kozak <kozzi11 gmail.com> writes:
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:45 PM Ali =C3=87ehreli via Digitalmars-d-announc=
e <
digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com> wrote:


 On 12/28/20 9:31 AM, Murilo wrote:

  > they thought a Facebook group was unnecessary,

 Not only unnecessary but divisive as well. For example, because I will
 never have a Facebook account I would never be a part of that group. So,
 can the open source community be a part of Facebook groups *without* a
 Facebook account? Even if the groups would be open to the public, why
 would advertisements be a part of a D group? (I don't want to go more
 off-topic here but I would love to discuss Facebook over your favorite
 drink.)

  > but what is the biggest social media in the world? Facebook!

 Good for them. :)

 Ali



+1

I am part of a nonprofit organization (some kind of admin for my village)
which provides internet access in my town(village) and  until a few months
ago there was a page (official page of our organization) which works for
all of our members even when there has been some issue with connectivity.
Ok if the issue has been between member and organization servers it would
not work, but still work in other cases or I have been able to find out
what is wrong just by looking at that page. But now they have published
all internet outages on facebook page, so I am not aware of them. And even
all my mates from the village who do not have another internet provider.

Other issue is they have some events (I always have been part of all events
before), but because those events now are on facebook it is really hard to
me to participate

So from my point of view FB is the worst thing for community or
organization in some cases.
Dec 28 2020
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Murilo <murilomiranda92 hotmail.com> writes:
 Not only unnecessary but divisive as well. For example, because 
 I will never have a Facebook account I would never be a part of 
 that group. So, can the open source community be a part of 
 Facebook groups *without* a Facebook account? Even if the 
 groups would be open to the public, why would advertisements be 
 a part of a D group? (I don't want to go more off-topic here 
 but I would love to discuss Facebook over your favorite drink.)


I'm sorry to hear some of you do not like my initiative. Those 
who don't have a FB account can continue to use this website or 
Discord. But those who have a FB account(most people do) can use 
the group as well, specially when they want to publish their 
work. Lots of people use the group to publish the GitHub of Dlang 
projects they've been working on, like a guy who created a game 
engine in D.

Nowadays a big part of the population uses FB daily, so that is a 
great way to communicate with the world.

And apart from all that, having an official FB group serves to 
show Dlang is growing strong and proud, it shows the world that 
Dlang is not dead(most people think it is).

BTW 2 more members joined today :D
Dec 28 2020
parent reply Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 00:38:40 UTC, Murilo wrote:


 And apart from all that, having an official FB group serves to 
 show Dlang is growing strong and proud, it shows the world that 
 Dlang is not dead(most people think it is).


I'm happy it's working for you, but please do not present it as 
an "official" group. That implies the foundation is involved in 
operating it.
Dec 28 2020
parent Murilo <murilomiranda92 hotmail.com> writes:
 I'm happy it's working for you, but please do not present it as 
 an "official" group. That implies the foundation is involved in 
 operating it.


Okay, sorry about that.
Dec 29 2020
prev sibling parent drug <drug2004 bk.ru> writes:
On 12/29/20 1:42 AM, Ali Çehreli wrote:

 On 12/28/20 9:31 AM, Murilo wrote:
 
  > they thought a Facebook group was unnecessary,
 
 Not only unnecessary but divisive as well. For example, because I will 
 never have a Facebook account I would never be a part of that group. 


+1
Dec 28 2020
prev sibling next sibling parent reply aberba <karabutaworld gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 28 December 2020 at 17:31:21 UTC, Murilo wrote:

 In the past 2 weeks we went from 225 to 240 members in our 
 Facebook 
 group(https://www.facebook.com/groups/ProgrammingInDlang), an 
 average of a person per day. First it was an average of a 
 person per month or less. I wonder if someone has advertised 
 the group or the world is finally embracing Dlang now.

 In 2018 I didn't find a single Dlang Facebook active group, 
 there were 1 or 2 very old groups with no members. So I created 
 one and I've been working hard to make it official and big, it 
 worked! At first I added my friends list to give it number but 
 then, as people joined it, I removed all of my friends and left 
 only people who joined voluntarily, there were only 150, over 
 time it grew to 225 and now we are getting close to 250.

 At first there was only a post per week, all posted by me, now 
 I don't need to post something every week because the members 
 are already doing it themselves, there is regular activity 
 including posts and discussions.

 I'm very happy, at first the people here did not like my idea, 
 they thought a Facebook group was unnecessary, but what is the 
 biggest social media in the world? Facebook! So that's is the 
 best way to communicate with the world and advertise Dlang.

 Cheers.



You're doing amazing job BTW. I've not personally been very 
active on Facebook lately, but I'm sure you know I do post in the 
group too. Also it doesn't have to be official. The discord 
server also isn't official yet very active as well.

We might not all have the same REALITY as to which platforms are 
important/appropriate, but I personally live in a reality where 
lots of developers are also very active on Facebook. I've also 
been nurturing a D WhatsApp group here cus WhatsApp is very 
common for smaller dev communities here. Even though its 
currently max 250ish people, its still one of the most active 
means. Yeah WhatsApp groups.

Whatever propels D.

So I'm sure the Facebook group will appeal to a certain audience 
who use Facebook. I've been a part of all sorts of Facebook 
groups related to my stack and I've come to the understand it's 
what certain people even prefer.
Dec 29 2020
parent reply Guillaume Piolat <first.name guess.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 09:05:45 UTC, aberba wrote:

 So I'm sure the Facebook group will appeal to a certain 
 audience who use Facebook. I've been a part of all sorts of 
 Facebook groups related to my stack and I've come to the 
 understand it's what certain people even prefer.


+1

It's quite like making software for the platform where the users 
are.
Dec 29 2020
parent reply Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= <ola.fosheim.grostad gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 10:52:53 UTC, Guillaume Piolat 
wrote:

 On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 09:05:45 UTC, aberba wrote:

 So I'm sure the Facebook group will appeal to a certain 
 audience who use Facebook. I've been a part of all sorts of 
 Facebook groups related to my stack and I've come to the 
 understand it's what certain people even prefer.


 +1

 It's quite like making software for the platform where the 
 users are.


Not quite, if you split up then each community might have 
stronger social bonding, but in terms of aggregating helpful 
advice you will be worse off. It would be suitable for geographic 
groups (e.g. for a country/city).

For instance slashdot is very poor in social boding terms, but 
much better than the dlang forums for aggregating helpful advice. 
So the "learn" forum is beneficial socially, but does erode the 
slashdot presence.
Dec 29 2020
next sibling parent Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= <ola.fosheim.grostad gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 11:34:38 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad 
wrote:

 For instance slashdot is very poor in social boding terms, but 
 much better than the dlang forums for aggregating helpful 
 advice. So the "learn" forum is beneficial socially, but does 
 erode the slashdot presence.


slashdot = stackoverflow... What was I thinking?
Dec 29 2020
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Tobias Pankrath <tobias pankrath.net> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 11:34:38 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad 
wrote:

 Not quite, if you split up then each community might have 
 stronger social bonding, but in terms of aggregating helpful 
 advice you will be worse off. It would be suitable for 
 geographic groups (e.g. for a country/city).

 For instance slashdot is very poor in social boding terms, but 
 much better than the dlang forums for aggregating helpful 
 advice. So the "learn" forum is beneficial socially, but does 
 erode the slashdot presence.


You have a valid point, but still I am sure the facebook group is 
a net positive for the community. I'd see it as a digital version 
of a local user group.

Would be useful to have the option to post D.learn questions 
automatically on stack overflow as well.
Dec 29 2020
next sibling parent Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 13:04:42 UTC, Tobias Pankrath 
wrote:


 You have a valid point, but still I am sure the facebook group 
 is a net positive for the community. I'd see it as a digital 
 version of a local user group.


Yeah, I see no problem with the group existing. I think it's 
great. It will reach people who might otherwise not have heard of 
D, and it's an option for those who are used to using FB groups 
instead of forums/IRC/Discord/etc.
Dec 29 2020
prev sibling parent Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= <ola.fosheim.grostad gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 13:04:42 UTC, Tobias Pankrath 
wrote:

 You have a valid point, but still I am sure the facebook group 
 is a net positive for the community. I'd see it as a digital 
 version of a local user group.


It certainly has some benefits, especially in the past when there 
was more activity and hostility in the dlang forums which could 
alienate some users. So, yes, if it is local and friendly, and 
people in the group direct members to the learn forum when they 
have questions that go unanswered then it can be helpful. Many 
islands is a net negative though. There has to be some kind of 
networking between the communities.

Also, topical communities can be negative, in the sense that if 
you have one 3D group, one audio group, one algorithm group then 
a user trying to implement a game might miss out on the best 
advice. That is a good reason to have one big community that has 
"rooms" (forums) for each topic.
Dec 29 2020
prev sibling parent reply Guillaume Piolat <first.name guess.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 11:34:38 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad 
wrote:

 Not quite, if you split up then each community might have 
 stronger social bonding, but in terms of aggregating helpful 
 advice you will be worse off. It would be suitable for 
 geographic groups (e.g. for a country/city).

 For instance slashdot is very poor in social boding terms, but 
 much better than the dlang forums for aggregating helpful 
 advice. So the "learn" forum is beneficial socially, but does 
 erode the slashdot presence.


Sorry but I don't think you get it.

These people are on Facebook, and it seems they would rather hear 
about D on Facebook. That's all there is to it.

You don't choose the platform that people prefer for hanging out. 
And not everyone want to have a strong affiliation with the 
langage and come to this forum. As the community grows, we of 
course need those loose links a lot, like any other computing 
language.
Dec 29 2020
parent reply Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= <ola.fosheim.grostad gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 14:53:43 UTC, Guillaume Piolat 
wrote:

 On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 11:34:38 UTC, Ola Fosheim 
 Grøstad wrote:
 Sorry but I don't think you get it.


So, this hostile ad hominem tone is why it is beneficial with 
local groups... I've studied online communities for many years, 
please don't challenge me to a competition about who "does not 
get it".


 These people are on Facebook, and it seems they would rather 
 hear about D on Facebook. That's all there is to it.


No, the OP clearly stated that he made the group "official". That 
is a deliberate attempt to fracture.


 You don't choose the platform that people prefer for hanging 
 out.


That is not the topic. The topic is what approach is more 
strategic.

If you end up with D-experts spread out on many "official" groups 
then the net effect is likely to be negative. If a group has not 
experts in it, then the newbies will get lower quality advice.

One can absolutely preempt the formation of many small groups by 
increasing the quality of the central hub. Or one can destroy the 
central hub.

Google quiet deliberately destroyed their central hub by 
dismantling it and strongly advocating all Go users to direct all 
their questions to stackoverflow. It was a very anti-social 
approach, but Go is a bigger language than the other new 
languages. Is there a correlation, hard to say. I wouldn't have 
done it, but I cannot prove that it was a net negative.
Dec 29 2020
next sibling parent reply Adam D. Ruppe <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad 
wrote:

 hostile ad hominem tone
 [...]
 deliberate attempt to fracture.


tu quoque.

Let's not assume any motives here. I wouldn't call it "official" 
either (and indeed, the title on facebook doesn't include that 
word) but no benefit calling it nefarious.
Dec 29 2020
parent Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= <ola.fosheim.grostad gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:16:24 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

 On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim 
 Grøstad wrote:

 hostile ad hominem tone
 [...]
 deliberate attempt to fracture.


 tu quoque.

 Let's not assume any motives here. I wouldn't call it 
 "official" either (and indeed, the title on facebook doesn't 
 include that word) but no benefit calling it nefarious.


WHAT??? No adhominem in my post. The OP quite clearly states that 
he is working to make it appear as the official group for D. I 
have to trust the motives that people explicitly state. Unless 
they correct their statement.
Dec 29 2020
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Guillaume Piolat <first.name guess.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad 
wrote:

 The topic is what approach is more strategic.


I see what you are saying, but that is a "controlling" position 
to hold.

Once a language break into the mainstream, there is no way to 
control the community. Any attempt to contain the community to 
this or that medium is the reverse way to think: it is the 
community that dictates where it should hang out. You would't 
expect the C++ or COBOL community to hang out in the same 
newsgroup, don't you?

(OT: no ad hominem at all in my posts... but you talk about a 
"deliberate attempt to fracture", this is imo far from reality)
Dec 29 2020
parent Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= <ola.fosheim.grostad gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:36:47 UTC, Guillaume Piolat 
wrote:

 I see what you are saying, but that is a "controlling" position 
 to hold.

 Once a language break into the mainstream, there is no way to 
 control the community. Any attempt to contain the community to 
 this or that medium is the reverse way to think: it is the 
 community that dictates where it should hang out. You would't 
 expect the C++ or COBOL community to hang out in the same 
 newsgroup, don't you?


It is not a controlling position, it is more like a seeding, 
weeding and cultivating exercise. So, you can have many small 
patches of land, one advantage might be that it is more resistant 
to disease. But it is also a lot more work to reach the same 
productivity levels and what happens if the person that takes 
care of that local patch of land leaves it unattended?

It is not a question of dictating anything, but of having a clear 
strategy where people gravitate towards a desirable outcome. Rust 
did this by heavy moderation in their forums, "preventing 
disease", then you have have a quite large hub. Many smaller hubs 
allows more local norms, but small communities tend to dissolve 
when the main caretaker leaves, so that is a significant weakness.

One can probably write 20 pages on for-against, which I have no 
intent of doing, but if it is ENDORSED by the D community then 
there is a responsibility for making sure that the quality in 
that group is high (both socially, long term availability  and in 
terms of advice given).


 (OT: no ad hominem at all in my posts... but you talk about a 
 "deliberate attempt to fracture", this is imo far from reality)


(Maybe not intentional on your part, but yes, it is ad hominem to 
make claims about what the other person does or does not 
understand.)

If you have multiple groups that are perceived as official then 
that is obviously a fracture. I fail to see how that is not a 
deliberate attempt to fracture. How many seemingly official 
groups have to be established before the effect is fracturing in 
your opinion?

Just like the D community gravitated towards dforum announce (and 
the programming reddit) and more or less agreed to not use the D 
subreddit for announcing their projects. If you have an official 
group then you have to be prepared to follow up that group so 
people get good advice. Two groups is more work than one, not 
complicated.

Clearly, anyone can create a group for anything, anywhere. That 
is not an issue, the issue is to make it more than a local group 
(e.g. "official") and what the overall long term outcome actually 
is (strategic).
Dec 29 2020
prev sibling parent reply Murilo <murilomiranda92 hotmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad 
wrote:

 No, the OP clearly stated that he made the group "official". 
 That is a deliberate attempt to fracture.


I'm sorry you see it like this but my intention when I created 
the group was to expand Dlang by bringing it to places people 
couldn't find it yet. The whole point of the FB group is to 
aggregate people into our community, to bring more people to 
Dlang and make Dlang famous. My whole intention was to help our 
community grow, not fracture.
Dec 29 2020
next sibling parent "H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh quickfur.ath.cx> writes:
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 02:31:36AM +0000, Murilo via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:

 On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:

 No, the OP clearly stated that he made the group "official". That is
 a deliberate attempt to fracture.




No, that's reading more into it than the OP intended.



 I'm sorry you see it like this but my intention when I created the
 group was to expand Dlang by bringing it to places people couldn't
 find it yet. The whole point of the FB group is to aggregate people
 into our community, to bring more people to Dlang and make Dlang
 famous. My whole intention was to help our community grow, not
 fracture.


I applaud your efforts. Even though I would not participate in Facebook
for personal reasons, and it's probably not a good idea to present the
FB group as "official", it's nevertheless a fact that FB reaches a lot
more people than most other platforms.  So why not take advantage of it.

Let's not get up in arms about technicalities here.  The word is
spreading and that's a good thing, not something to argue over.


T

-- 
Political correctness: socially-sanctioned hypocrisy.
Dec 29 2020
prev sibling next sibling parent Tobias Pankrath <tobias pankrath.net> writes:
On Wednesday, 30 December 2020 at 02:31:36 UTC, Murilo wrote:

 On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim 
 Grøstad wrote:

 No, the OP clearly stated that he made the group "official". 
 That is a deliberate attempt to fracture.


 I'm sorry you see it like this but my intention when I created 
 the group was to expand Dlang by bringing it to places people 
 couldn't find it yet. The whole point of the FB group is to 
 aggregate people into our community, to bring more people to 
 Dlang and make Dlang famous. My whole intention was to help our 
 community grow, not fracture.


No need to be sorry. Keep up the good work.

There is a tendency around here to kill the good that is for the 
better that never will be. Don't get discouraged by this. If I 
had facebook, I'd join.
Dec 29 2020
prev sibling next sibling parent Paulo Pinto <pjmlp progtools.org> writes:
On Wednesday, 30 December 2020 at 02:31:36 UTC, Murilo wrote:

 On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim 
 Grøstad wrote:

 No, the OP clearly stated that he made the group "official". 
 That is a deliberate attempt to fracture.


 I'm sorry you see it like this but my intention when I created 
 the group was to expand Dlang by bringing it to places people 
 couldn't find it yet. The whole point of the FB group is to 
 aggregate people into our community, to bring more people to 
 Dlang and make Dlang famous. My whole intention was to help our 
 community grow, not fracture.


You did well, many get all fancy about Facebook, yet don't have 
any issues using FOSS software paid with Facebook's money.

The more the better.
Dec 29 2020
prev sibling parent Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= <ola.fosheim.grostad gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 30 December 2020 at 02:31:36 UTC, Murilo wrote:

 On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim 
 Grøstad wrote:

 No, the OP clearly stated that he made the group "official". 
 That is a deliberate attempt to fracture.


 I'm sorry you see it like this but my intention when I created 
 the group was to expand Dlang by bringing it to places people 
 couldn't find it yet. The whole point of the FB group is to 
 aggregate people into our community, to bring more people to 
 Dlang and make Dlang famous. My whole intention was to help our 
 community grow, not fracture.


I have no issues with what you do or don't do. I have issues with 
the complete lack of strategic visions and decision making on 
multiple levels in the D community. The question is not what you 
should or should not do, but how the D community approach 
community building and respond to changes in the environment.

Just redirect people who cannot get their problems resolved in 
your group to the learn forum then they get the best of both 
worlds. :-)

No, what I find disturbing is that people don't think long term 
and that the greater world is viewed as something that "just 
happens". It is quite obvious that Go and Rust is doing a better 
job at putting forth visions for the language, making strategic 
choices and executing. They also do so in terms of community out 
reach.

Quite frankly, right now, fracturing is the only possibility for 
D. The current setup without solid moderation of the D forums 
cannot sustain a large population. When the number of 
participants is large the community will get more toxic. Which is 
not good.

Also, it is a problem that the learn forum is hidden away.

So fracturing on your part, is not the main issue, the main issue 
is that nobody has a strategy for making sure that the main hub 
can grow nor is there a strategy for making sure that people 
gravitate towards it. The strategy seems to be to make it less 
visible to avoid that people find it. ;-)

It would not surprise me if you manage to grow your group to a 
50/50 split. Is that a fracture, sure. But, right now, fracturing 
is envitable if growth is to take place anyway. The source for 
this would not be what you do, but what the D community is 
unwilling to do (or think about).
Dec 30 2020
prev sibling parent Meta <jared771 gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 28 December 2020 at 17:31:21 UTC, Murilo wrote:

 In the past 2 weeks we went from 225 to 240 members in our 
 Facebook 
 group(https://www.facebook.com/groups/ProgrammingInDlang), an 
 average of a person per day. First it was an average of a 
 person per month or less. I wonder if someone has advertised 
 the group or the world is finally embracing Dlang now.

 In 2018 I didn't find a single Dlang Facebook active group, 
 there were 1 or 2 very old groups with no members. So I created 
 one and I've been working hard to make it official and big, it 
 worked! At first I added my friends list to give it number but 
 then, as people joined it, I removed all of my friends and left 
 only people who joined voluntarily, there were only 150, over 
 time it grew to 225 and now we are getting close to 250.

 At first there was only a post per week, all posted by me, now 
 I don't need to post something every week because the members 
 are already doing it themselves, there is regular activity 
 including posts and discussions.

 I'm very happy, at first the people here did not like my idea, 
 they thought a Facebook group was unnecessary, but what is the 
 biggest social media in the world? Facebook! So that's is the 
 best way to communicate with the world and advertise Dlang.

 Cheers.


Cool, I didn't know this exists. Congrats on 200+ members; that's 
no mean feat!
Dec 30 2020