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digitalmars.D.announce - Iain Buclaw at GNU Tools Cauldron 2018

reply greentea <greentea gmail.com> writes:
Date: September 7 to 9, 2018.
Location: Manchester, UK

GDC - D front-end GCC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXRJJ_lrSxE
Oct 07
next sibling parent reply Joakim <dlang joakim.fea.st> writes:
On Sunday, 7 October 2018 at 15:41:43 UTC, greentea wrote:
 Date: September 7 to 9, 2018.
 Location: Manchester, UK

 GDC - D front-end GCC

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXRJJ_lrSxE
Thanks for the link, just watched the whole video. The first half-hour sets the standard as an intro to the language, as only a compiler developer other than the main implementer could give, ie someone with fresh eyes. I loved that Iain started off with a list of real-world projects. That's a mistake a lot of tech talks make, ie not motivating _why_ anybody should care about their tech and simply diving into the tech itself. I hadn't heard some of that info either, great way to begin. My only nitpick is that I wish he'd emphasized how much of a focus D puts on metaprogramming, as I've noticed a lot of comments on proggit/HN/etc. saying that the power and ease of use of D's metaprogramming really stood out for them when trying the language.
Oct 07
next sibling parent Jon Degenhardt <jond noreply.com> writes:
On Monday, 8 October 2018 at 05:12:03 UTC, Joakim wrote:
 On Sunday, 7 October 2018 at 15:41:43 UTC, greentea wrote:
 Date: September 7 to 9, 2018.
 Location: Manchester, UK

 GDC - D front-end GCC

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXRJJ_lrSxE
Thanks for the link, just watched the whole video. The first half-hour sets the standard as an intro to the language, as only a compiler developer other than the main implementer could give, ie someone with fresh eyes. I loved that Iain started off with a list of real-world projects. That's a mistake a lot of tech talks make, ie not motivating _why_ anybody should care about their tech and simply diving into the tech itself. I hadn't heard some of that info either, great way to begin.
I agree, a very nice talk, including the way the motivation part of was handled. I especially liked the example of the group who typically used Python for rapid prototyping, then re-wrote in C++ for production, who upon trying D for a prototype, were pleasantly surprised it was performant enough for production.
Oct 07
prev sibling parent Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw gdcproject.org> writes:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 07:15, Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce
<digitalmars-d-announce puremagic.com> wrote:
 On Sunday, 7 October 2018 at 15:41:43 UTC, greentea wrote:
 Date: September 7 to 9, 2018.
 Location: Manchester, UK

 GDC - D front-end GCC

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXRJJ_lrSxE
Thanks for the link, just watched the whole video. The first half-hour sets the standard as an intro to the language, as only a compiler developer other than the main implementer could give, ie someone with fresh eyes. I loved that Iain started off with a list of real-world projects. That's a mistake a lot of tech talks make, ie not motivating _why_ anybody should care about their tech and simply diving into the tech itself. I hadn't heard some of that info either, great way to begin. My only nitpick is that I wish he'd emphasized how much of a focus D puts on metaprogramming, as I've noticed a lot of comments on proggit/HN/etc. saying that the power and ease of use of D's metaprogramming really stood out for them when trying the language.
Thanks, one of the feedbacks I got mentioned ripping out most grammar stuff and putting more emphasis on key selling points, however by the time I received that memo, I think it was 3 days before I was due to actually give the talk. All I had time for was just ripping out stanza after stanza of notes I had written up. It may or may not be obvious that I wanted to attempt to describe aspects with a slight affinity to how the landscape looks from the ABI/Codegen side, of which compile-time features get even less deserving attention. Not to forget, talking about just the D language as a whole is easily a 3 hour talk, and I felt that I didn't really want to put too much emphasis on one part or another, especially when condensing it down to 25 minutes. This also meant I was pretty much all was going off an auto-cue I had pre-authored and polished. I wasn't really in the mood for winging it this time around as I've perhaps done in former Dconf talks - to which from 2017's experience, I can quite happily go on a tangent for hours and hours and... -- Iain
Oct 08
prev sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 10/7/2018 8:41 AM, greentea wrote:
 Date: September 7 to 9, 2018.
 Location: Manchester, UK
 
 GDC - D front-end GCC
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXRJJ_lrSxE
Nice work, Iain!
Oct 10