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digitalmars.D.announce - D reaches 1000 questions on stackoverflow

reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/d

Andrei
Aug 05 2013
parent reply "Andre Artus" <andre.artus gmail.com> writes:
 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/d

 Andrei


Perhaps we can get it to 1000 answers? I'm looking through it now 
to see if I can find something I can answer.
Aug 05 2013
parent reply "Atila Neves" <atila.neves gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 6 August 2013 at 01:22:29 UTC, Andre Artus wrote:

 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/d

 Andrei


 Perhaps we can get it to 1000 answers? I'm looking through it 
 now to see if I can find something I can answer.


I think the lack of answers is due to most D aficionados posting 
questions on http://forum.dlang.org/group/digitalmars.D.learn 
instead of stackoverflow. The last time I asked a question I did 
it on both assuming I'd get better answers here than there. I was 
right and had to answer my own question on SO (with the answer I 
got on the forum from a helpful D programmer) so that others 
might benefit.

I'm not entirely sure this relative insularity is good for D 
(which is why I bothered to ask my question on SO to begin with).

Atila
Aug 06 2013
parent reply "Dejan Lekic" <dejan.lekic gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 6 August 2013 at 16:02:57 UTC, Atila Neves wrote:

 On Tuesday, 6 August 2013 at 01:22:29 UTC, Andre Artus wrote:

 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/d

 Andrei


 Perhaps we can get it to 1000 answers? I'm looking through it 
 now to see if I can find something I can answer.


 I think the lack of answers is due to most D aficionados 
 posting questions on 
 http://forum.dlang.org/group/digitalmars.D.learn instead of 
 stackoverflow. The last time I asked a question I did it on 
 both assuming I'd get better answers here than there. I was 
 right and had to answer my own question on SO (with the answer 
 I got on the forum from a helpful D programmer) so that others 
 might benefit.

 I'm not entirely sure this relative insularity is good for D 
 (which is why I bothered to ask my question on SO to begin 
 with).

 Atila


There is really nothing wrong about answering/asking questions 
here instead of the StackOverflow.
Aug 14 2013
parent reply "Andre Artus" <andre.artus gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 14 August 2013 at 19:52:13 UTC, Dejan Lekic wrote:

 On Tuesday, 6 August 2013 at 16:02:57 UTC, Atila Neves wrote:

 On Tuesday, 6 August 2013 at 01:22:29 UTC, Andre Artus wrote:

 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/d

 Andrei


 Perhaps we can get it to 1000 answers? I'm looking through it 
 now to see if I can find something I can answer.


 I think the lack of answers is due to most D aficionados 
 posting questions on 
 http://forum.dlang.org/group/digitalmars.D.learn instead of 
 stackoverflow. The last time I asked a question I did it on 
 both assuming I'd get better answers here than there. I was 
 right and had to answer my own question on SO (with the answer 
 I got on the forum from a helpful D programmer) so that others 
 might benefit.

 I'm not entirely sure this relative insularity is good for D 
 (which is why I bothered to ask my question on SO to begin 
 with).

 Atila


 There is really nothing wrong about answering/asking questions 
 here instead of the StackOverflow.


As with many things it depends on what you want to achieve. 
Answering on SO is as much about establishing awareness as it is 
about answering the question. For a newcomer to D StackOverflow 
may be their first port of call, if questions go unanswered, or 
are answered after long delays, then the likelihood of the person 
persisting with D is diminished.

A relatively small number of people are attracted to tools and 
languages that don't have broad exposure. These people are marked 
by dogged determinism and a high tolerance for [mental] pain. 
Your average Joe or Jane is not like that, they have something 
they want to achieve and if they perceive the language/tools are 
working against them they will try something else.

It could be argued that D (broadly) isn't ready for Joe and Jane 
yet, but if it isn't yet, it must plan to be ready soon.
Aug 14 2013
next sibling parent reply "Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 14 August 2013 at 20:56:33 UTC, Andre Artus wrote:

 if questions go unanswered, or are answered after long delays, 
 then the likelihood of the person persisting with D is 
 diminished.


Is this a big problem with D? I don't do stack overflow often, 
but I try to check in every few days to check the D tag, and I 
usually see answers there by the time I click it.
Aug 14 2013
next sibling parent reply "Andre Artus" <andre.artus gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 14 August 2013 at 21:03:37 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

 On Wednesday, 14 August 2013 at 20:56:33 UTC, Andre Artus wrote:

 if questions go unanswered, or are answered after long delays, 
 then the likelihood of the person persisting with D is 
 diminished.


 Is this a big problem with D? I don't do stack overflow often, 
 but I try to check in every few days to check the D tag, and I 
 usually see answers there by the time I click it.


I don't think it is a big problem, 28 unanswered questions out of 
just over a thousand isn't a terrible stat, but most of those 
unanswered questions seem to have been there for months. About 
1/2 of them have an answer, but are not marked as such. Often the 
question isn't clear, or the answer is given as a comment.

I'm not saying that the D community is unresponsive, quite the 
opposite is true, my main point was that one cannot dismiss the 
value of discoverability.
Aug 14 2013
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 8/14/13 2:59 PM, Andre Artus wrote:

 On Wednesday, 14 August 2013 at 21:03:37 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

 On Wednesday, 14 August 2013 at 20:56:33 UTC, Andre Artus wrote:

 if questions go unanswered, or are answered after long delays, then
 the likelihood of the person persisting with D is diminished.


 Is this a big problem with D? I don't do stack overflow often, but I
 try to check in every few days to check the D tag, and I usually see
 answers there by the time I click it.


 I don't think it is a big problem, 28 unanswered questions out of just
 over a thousand isn't a terrible stat, but most of those unanswered
 questions seem to have been there for months. About 1/2 of them have an
 answer, but are not marked as such. Often the question isn't clear, or
 the answer is given as a comment.

 I'm not saying that the D community is unresponsive, quite the opposite
 is true, my main point was that one cannot dismiss the value of
 discoverability.


Yes. In a way SO is preferable to this forum because it's much more popular.

Andrei
Aug 14 2013
prev sibling parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 8/14/13 2:03 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

 On Wednesday, 14 August 2013 at 20:56:33 UTC, Andre Artus wrote:

 if questions go unanswered, or are answered after long delays, then
 the likelihood of the person persisting with D is diminished.


 Is this a big problem with D? I don't do stack overflow often, but I try
 to check in every few days to check the D tag, and I usually see answers
 there by the time I click it.


You can define a filter that emails you whenever there are new questions 
on the "D" tag.

Andrei
Aug 14 2013
parent reply "Joseph Rushton Wakeling" <joseph.wakeling webdrake.net> writes:
On Thursday, 15 August 2013 at 00:23:16 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 You can define a filter that emails you whenever there are new 
 questions on the "D" tag.


Why not set up D.learn (or a new mailing list) to track that 
filter? That should help prompt the community here to engage with 
any new questions.
Aug 15 2013
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 8/15/13 5:07 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:

 On Thursday, 15 August 2013 at 00:23:16 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 You can define a filter that emails you whenever there are new
 questions on the "D" tag.


 Why not set up D.learn (or a new mailing list) to track that filter?
 That should help prompt the community here to engage with any new
 questions.


cc Vladimir Panteleev

Terrific idea.


Andrei
Aug 15 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Jonathan M Davis" <jmdavisProg gmx.com> writes:
On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 22:56:30 Andre Artus wrote:

 As with many things it depends on what you want to achieve.
 Answering on SO is as much about establishing awareness as it is
 about answering the question. For a newcomer to D StackOverflow
 may be their first port of call, if questions go unanswered, or
 are answered after long delays, then the likelihood of the person
 persisting with D is diminished.


I answer questions on SO all the time, but I rarely ask anything there, and I 
never ask anything D-related there. Of course, if my question is D-related, 
I'm much more likely to _have_ to ask my question here to get a good answer 
anyway just based on how many people would even know the answer, simply 
because I know enough that anything I asked would be much more likely to be 
esoteric and/or require in-depth knowledge. The experts are all here, and only 
a small portion of them are on SO.

In any case, I'd say that in general, asking your question on SO gives it more 
visibility to those outside of the core D community, but you're more likely to 
get a good answer here than there, because there are more people here, and 
this is where the experts are.

- Jonathan M Davis
Aug 14 2013
next sibling parent "Andre Artus" <andre.artus gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 15 August 2013 at 02:30:42 UTC, Jonathan M Davis 
wrote:

 On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 22:56:30 Andre Artus wrote:

 As with many things it depends on what you want to achieve.
 Answering on SO is as much about establishing awareness as it 
 is
 about answering the question. For a newcomer to D StackOverflow
 may be their first port of call, if questions go unanswered, or
 are answered after long delays, then the likelihood of the 
 person
 persisting with D is diminished.


 I answer questions on SO all the time, but I rarely ask 
 anything there, and I
 never ask anything D-related there. Of course, if my question 
 is D-related,
 I'm much more likely to _have_ to ask my question here to get a 
 good answer
 anyway just based on how many people would even know the 
 answer, simply
 because I know enough that anything I asked would be much more 
 likely to be
 esoteric and/or require in-depth knowledge. The experts are all 
 here, and only
 a small portion of them are on SO.

 In any case, I'd say that in general, asking your question on 
 SO gives it more
 visibility to those outside of the core D community, but you're 
 more likely to
 get a good answer here than there, because there are more 
 people here, and
 this is where the experts are.

 - Jonathan M Davis


I agree with every point you've made here. If I had a D related 
question I would not head for SO first. I have found a lot in the 
D forums without actually having to ask the questions myself. But 
it does not do much for D's exposure.

Evangelizing takes planning and effort. Technical merit is 
unfortunately insufficient to guarantee success in the 
marketplace of ideas. I have known about D for quite some time, 
but did not put too much effort into it until recently. It's when 
I stumbled across the DConf2013 videos that I realized that there 
is some serious legs under D. The quality of the presentations 
(in terms of content over glitz) exceeded that of many similar 
conferences I've seen.

Languages like Ruby, Python, PHP, R, etc. do not have the buzz 
they do because of inherent technical merit, but perhaps in spite 
of thereof. Each has some killer framework compelling you to 
adopt the language in order to benefit from it, and people 
putting serious effort into evangelizing and lowering the 
barriers.

I see there is a thread going on creating D GUI framework, I 
think that would be a major step towards lowering the barriers. 
It needs to be part of a "batteries included" set-up for D. So 
you can download D and run your Hello World GUI app in under 10 
minutes. Not spend half the day searching for mostly abandoned 
efforts and then spending the rest of the day compiling the C/C++ 
dependencies only later to find that you have been sucked into 
the 7th layer of Dependency Hell. While modern C++ has become a 
lot less unpleasant it is still unpleasant; someone new to D 
should never have to run a C/C++ compiler for any reason other 
than to compare compilation time (with a big fat grin on their 
dial for choosing D).
Aug 14 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Brad Anderson" <eco gnuk.net> writes:
On Thursday, 15 August 2013 at 02:30:42 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:

 On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 22:56:30 Andre Artus wrote:

 As with many things it depends on what you want to achieve.
 Answering on SO is as much about establishing awareness as it 
 is
 about answering the question. For a newcomer to D StackOverflow
 may be their first port of call, if questions go unanswered, or
 are answered after long delays, then the likelihood of the 
 person
 persisting with D is diminished.


 I answer questions on SO all the time


And I have to thank you for that.  You leave some great, in-depth
answers on Stack Overflow.
Aug 14 2013
parent reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 8/14/2013 10:05 PM, Brad Anderson wrote:

 On Thursday, 15 August 2013 at 02:30:42 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
 wrote:

 On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 22:56:30 Andre Artus wrote:

 As with many things it depends on what you want to achieve.
 Answering on SO is as much about establishing awareness as it is
 about answering the question. For a newcomer to D StackOverflow
 may be their first port of call, if questions go unanswered, or
 are answered after long delays, then the likelihood of the person
 persisting with D is diminished.


 I answer questions on SO all the time


 And I have to thank you for that.  You leave some great, in-depth
 answers on Stack Overflow.


I'll chime in thanking Jonathan for this valuable contribution.
Aug 14 2013
parent reply "monarch_dodra" <monarchdodra gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 15 August 2013 at 06:11:32 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

 On 8/14/2013 10:05 PM, Brad Anderson wrote:

 On Thursday, 15 August 2013 at 02:30:42 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
 wrote:

 On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 22:56:30 Andre Artus wrote:

 As with many things it depends on what you want to achieve.
 Answering on SO is as much about establishing awareness as 
 it is
 about answering the question. For a newcomer to D 
 StackOverflow
 may be their first port of call, if questions go unanswered, 
 or
 are answered after long delays, then the likelihood of the 
 person
 persisting with D is diminished.


 I answer questions on SO all the time


 And I have to thank you for that.  You leave some great, 
 in-depth
 answers on Stack Overflow.


 I'll chime in thanking Jonathan for this valuable contribution.


I think I'll chip in by answering questions on SO too. I enjoy 
helping.
Aug 15 2013
parent "Dicebot" <public dicebot.lv> writes:
On Thursday, 15 August 2013 at 17:55:38 UTC, monarch_dodra wrote:

 I'll chime in thanking Jonathan for this valuable contribution.


 I think I'll chip in by answering questions on SO too. I enjoy 
 helping.


Be warned - by the time notification about new question arrives 
in RSS feed, it usually already has long and comprehensive answer 
from Jonathan :)
Aug 15 2013
prev sibling parent reply "Tyler Jameson Little" <beatgammit gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 15 August 2013 at 02:30:42 UTC, Jonathan M Davis 
wrote:

 On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 22:56:30 Andre Artus wrote:

 As with many things it depends on what you want to achieve.
 Answering on SO is as much about establishing awareness as it 
 is
 about answering the question. For a newcomer to D StackOverflow
 may be their first port of call, if questions go unanswered, or
 are answered after long delays, then the likelihood of the 
 person
 persisting with D is diminished.


 I answer questions on SO all the time, but I rarely ask 
 anything there, and I
 never ask anything D-related there. Of course, if my question 
 is D-related,
 I'm much more likely to _have_ to ask my question here to get a 
 good answer
 anyway just based on how many people would even know the 
 answer, simply
 because I know enough that anything I asked would be much more 
 likely to be
 esoteric and/or require in-depth knowledge. The experts are all 
 here, and only
 a small portion of them are on SO.

 In any case, I'd say that in general, asking your question on 
 SO gives it more
 visibility to those outside of the core D community, but you're 
 more likely to
 get a good answer here than there, because there are more 
 people here, and
 this is where the experts are.

 - Jonathan M Davis


First off, thank you so much for answering questions on SO. 
Answers there come up higher in Google search results than 
questions here, and several of your answers have been very 
helpful to me. There are others that answer, who I'm also 
grateful for, but your name always sticks out to me when I see an 
answer there.

It's true though that there are much better answers (and 
questions) here than on SO, and I'm beginning to shift my search 
from Google to the forum search, but this isn't something a 
newcomer will know to do, especially since many other languages 
put more emphasis on SO.
Aug 16 2013
parent reply "Paul Jurczak" <pauljurczak yahoo.com> writes:
On Saturday, 17 August 2013 at 01:05:18 UTC, Tyler Jameson Little 
wrote:
[..]

 It's true though that there are much better answers (and 
 questions) here than on SO, and I'm beginning to shift my 
 search from Google to the forum search, but this isn't 
 something a newcomer will know to do, especially since many 
 other languages put more emphasis on SO.


Speaking of searching on this forum: in Chrome, the search box in 
top right corner of this page has a peculiar feature of being 
mostly a clickable link item to forum.dlang.org. Only a small 
fragment (about 25%) shows a text cursor.

Sorry for posting this issue here, but I didn't find a suitable 
category in forum index. Maybe one could be created - "Forum use 
issues"?
Aug 17 2013
parent reply "John Colvin" <john.loughran.colvin gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, 17 August 2013 at 09:21:27 UTC, Paul Jurczak wrote:

 On Saturday, 17 August 2013 at 01:05:18 UTC, Tyler Jameson 
 Little wrote:
 [..]

 It's true though that there are much better answers (and 
 questions) here than on SO, and I'm beginning to shift my 
 search from Google to the forum search, but this isn't 
 something a newcomer will know to do, especially since many 
 other languages put more emphasis on SO.


 Speaking of searching on this forum: in Chrome, the search box 
 in top right corner of this page has a peculiar feature of 
 being mostly a clickable link item to forum.dlang.org. Only a 
 small fragment (about 25%) shows a text cursor.

 Sorry for posting this issue here, but I didn't find a suitable 
 category in forum index. Maybe one could be created - "Forum 
 use issues"?


This is dependant on the size of your window. If your window is 
so narrow that the title is overlapping the search box then the 
title takes precedence, which is not desirable. You could create 
an issue here to report it: https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed
Aug 17 2013
parent reply "Paul Jurczak" <pauljurczak yahoo.com> writes:
On Saturday, 17 August 2013 at 11:00:20 UTC, John Colvin wrote:

 On Saturday, 17 August 2013 at 09:21:27 UTC, Paul Jurczak wrote:

 On Saturday, 17 August 2013 at 01:05:18 UTC, Tyler Jameson 
 Little wrote:
 [..]

 It's true though that there are much better answers (and 
 questions) here than on SO, and I'm beginning to shift my 
 search from Google to the forum search, but this isn't 
 something a newcomer will know to do, especially since many 
 other languages put more emphasis on SO.


 Speaking of searching on this forum: in Chrome, the search box 
 in top right corner of this page has a peculiar feature of 
 being mostly a clickable link item to forum.dlang.org. Only a 
 small fragment (about 25%) shows a text cursor.

 Sorry for posting this issue here, but I didn't find a 
 suitable category in forum index. Maybe one could be created - 
 "Forum use issues"?


 This is dependant on the size of your window. If your window is 
 so narrow that the title is overlapping the search box then the 
 title takes precedence, which is not desirable. You could 
 create an issue here to report it: 
 https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed


Thanks, that's exactly what is happening, except I wouldn't call 
my window narrow - it is 1200 pixels wide, but 1600 pixels high. 
I will report this issue.
Aug 17 2013
parent reply "John Colvin" <john.loughran.colvin gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, 17 August 2013 at 20:12:49 UTC, Paul Jurczak wrote:

 On Saturday, 17 August 2013 at 11:00:20 UTC, John Colvin wrote:

 On Saturday, 17 August 2013 at 09:21:27 UTC, Paul Jurczak 
 wrote:

 On Saturday, 17 August 2013 at 01:05:18 UTC, Tyler Jameson 
 Little wrote:
 [..]

 It's true though that there are much better answers (and 
 questions) here than on SO, and I'm beginning to shift my 
 search from Google to the forum search, but this isn't 
 something a newcomer will know to do, especially since many 
 other languages put more emphasis on SO.


 Speaking of searching on this forum: in Chrome, the search 
 box in top right corner of this page has a peculiar feature 
 of being mostly a clickable link item to forum.dlang.org. 
 Only a small fragment (about 25%) shows a text cursor.

 Sorry for posting this issue here, but I didn't find a 
 suitable category in forum index. Maybe one could be created 
 - "Forum use issues"?


 This is dependant on the size of your window. If your window 
 is so narrow that the title is overlapping the search box then 
 the title takes precedence, which is not desirable. You could 
 create an issue here to report it: 
 https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed


 Thanks, that's exactly what is happening, except I wouldn't 
 call my window narrow - it is 1200 pixels wide, but 1600 pixels 
 high. I will report this issue.


https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed/pull/15
Aug 17 2013
parent "Paul Jurczak" <pauljurczak yahoo.com> writes:
On Saturday, 17 August 2013 at 22:00:10 UTC, John Colvin wrote:

 https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed/pull/15


Thank you for fixing it.
Aug 20 2013
prev sibling parent reply Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 22:56:30 +0200
"Andre Artus" <andre.artus gmail.com> wrote:

 
 A relatively small number of people are attracted to tools and 
 languages that don't have broad exposure. These people are marked 
 by dogged determinism and a high tolerance for [mental] pain. 
 Your average Joe or Jane is not like that, they have something 
 they want to achieve and if they perceive the language/tools are 
 working against them they will try something else.
 


FWIW, I'm sold on D specifically *because* I have very little patience
for tools that feel like they're working against me.
Aug 14 2013
parent reply "Atash" <nope nope.nope> writes:
On Thursday, 15 August 2013 at 05:06:48 UTC, Nick Sabalausky 
wrote:

 On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 22:56:30 +0200
 "Andre Artus" <andre.artus gmail.com> wrote:

 
 A relatively small number of people are attracted to tools and 
 languages that don't have broad exposure. These people are 
 marked by dogged determinism and a high tolerance for [mental] 
 pain. Your average Joe or Jane is not like that, they have 
 something they want to achieve and if they perceive the 
 language/tools are working against them they will try 
 something else.
 


 FWIW, I'm sold on D specifically *because* I have very little 
 patience
 for tools that feel like they're working against me.


Totally with Nick on this one. I liked C/C++ specifically because 
of the generic programming aspect + static typing. Then I learned 
that D did it better. Then I switched for my personal projects 
(all recently).

== A self-case-study regarding SO

The conversion started after I read this post on SO:

http://stackoverflow.com/a/3560395/1467466

That... was shocking in simplicity. Shocking enough for me to 
play the what if game for a few minutes. It meant that someone 
could move a lot of functionality and hackery that build tools 
perform into the language and make it 'purdy. I *like* my code, 
including build tool, looking 'purdy. Or even 'purrrrrdy.

Looking at it now, that demo is a code snippet. It demos *the 
code* and the constructs and how pretty it looks. The bullet 
point answer above it, the accepted one, didn't catch my eyes. It 
was just a list of features. I mean, yeah, CTFE was exciting, but 
the code snippet demonstrating how succinct it all was... THAT 
WAS EYE CATCHING.

IT. WAS. 'PURDY.

D's flippin' awesome, I can implement functionality like C++'s 
'bind' function in 40 lines while the Boost library has to do in 
hundreds of lines (for compatibility, BUT STILL), I can deal with 
arbitrary tuples in a sane way, mixin arbitrary strings, I'm not 
constantly reaching down with my pointer finger to the less-than 
sign while my left hand is occupied with shift or scrunching my 
right pinky against the shift while my right middle is trying to 
hit the greater-than sign... D is just -pleasant-.

I'm enjoying all of this now *because* I was tipped off on D's 
awesomeness... by StackOverflow.

On the flip-side, here's 'nother tidbit (I saw this crazy thing 
before the post above):

http://stackoverflow.com/a/7303196/1467466

Yeah, sure, it's impressive, but there's no code snippet. There's 
no demo of how the code was *written*. C++ also has 
Turing-complete metaprogramming, whoopdeedoo. My only experience 
at that point with metaprogramming had been torturous for 
anything more than a little complicated; what else could I have 
expected of this clearly masochistic individual's code? "Nothing 
new here, moving along..." was my thinking there. The post above 
it had snippets, but was kind of long and I didn't feel like 
diving too deep when I didn't yet care much for the language.

== The long and short of it:

I'm only one data point, but I'm still a data point. :-P

I understand that, really, er'rything should be for knowledge's 
sake, but, if it isn't too much effort, please answer Qs while 
strutting D's prettiness on SO.

Massive, massive kudos to whoever's had the patience to answer 
newbie questions, as unclear as they may have been sometimes 
(such as my own).

== And the obligatory...

HI FIRST TIME POSTING. Just yell at me if I get too obnoxious and 
whatnot.
Aug 14 2013
parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 8/14/2013 11:17 PM, Atash wrote:

 HI FIRST TIME POSTING. Just yell at me if I get too obnoxious and whatnot.


I enjoyed your post. Welcome! and post more.
Aug 15 2013