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digitalmars.D.announce - D Community Conversations: Walter Bright on the Origins of D Part 1

reply Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:
I mentioned a little while back that I planned to start a D 
Community Conversations series on the Foundation's YouTube 
channel. In this series, I'll chat in depth with various people 
from the D community about their their projects, their 
programming backgrounds, their influences, how they got started 
with D, etc.

I've just published the first episode here:

https://youtu.be/-kkMYJN3MnA

I had a nice chat with Walter starting with the earliest 
influences that set him on the path to becoming a compiler 
writer, and exploring how his life experiences influenced the 
design of D. As always, he throws in a number of anecdotes, many 
of which I'd never heard before.

The inspiration and reference for this discussion is 'Origins of 
the D Programming Language', [the paper that Walter, Andrei, and 
I wrote](https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3386323) for the HOPL 
IV conference. We carried the talk up to the early work he did on 
D. We'll pick up there for Part 2 in future episode, where we'll 
talk more specifically about the design decisions behind, and the 
evolution of, D1.

Thanks to Walter for sitting down to do this with me. We actually 
had to do it twice, as I botched the recording of our first 
session last week. I enjoyed both chats, and I'm looking forward 
to the next one.

I'll plan to do one of these every other month, so I'll be 
reaching out to people around the D community as time goes on.
Jul 10 2022
next sibling parent reply bachmeier <no spam.net> writes:
On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 16:17:11 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

[...]

This is really good.

Have you considered uploading the audio to Spotify or somewhere 
as a podcast? No idea what that would involve, but for a lot of 
us there are more opportunities to listen to a podcast rather 
than watch a YT video.
Jul 10 2022
next sibling parent reply Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 18:26:13 UTC, bachmeier wrote:

 On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 16:17:11 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

 [...]

 This is really good.


Thanks!


 Have you considered uploading the audio to Spotify or somewhere 
 as a podcast? No idea what that would involve, but for a lot of 
 us there are more opportunities to listen to a podcast rather 
 than watch a YT video.


That hadn't crossed my mind. I'll look into it.
Jul 10 2022
parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 7/10/2022 8:26 PM, Mike Parker wrote:

 On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 18:26:13 UTC, bachmeier wrote:

 Have you considered uploading the audio to Spotify or somewhere as a podcast? 
 No idea what that would involve, but for a lot of us there are more 
 opportunities to listen to a podcast rather than watch a YT video.


 
 That hadn't crossed my mind. I'll look into it.


A podcast channel for D stuff sounds like a great idea!
Jul 16 2022
prev sibling parent reply Salih Dincer <salihdb hotmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 18:26:13 UTC, bachmeier wrote:

 On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 16:17:11 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

 [...]

 This is really good.

 Have you considered uploading the audio to Spotify or somewhere 
 as a podcast? No idea what that would involve, but for a lot of 
 us there are more opportunities to listen to a podcast rather 
 than watch a YT video.


I mostly use this site:

https://mp3y.download/en

The intro music and the beginning of the video were great.

SDB 79
Jul 11 2022
parent bachmeier <no spam.net> writes:
On Monday, 11 July 2022 at 13:51:27 UTC, Salih Dincer wrote:

 On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 18:26:13 UTC, bachmeier wrote:

 On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 16:17:11 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

 [...]

 This is really good.

 Have you considered uploading the audio to Spotify or 
 somewhere as a podcast? No idea what that would involve, but 
 for a lot of us there are more opportunities to listen to a 
 podcast rather than watch a YT video.


 I mostly use this site:

 https://mp3y.download/en

 The intro music and the beginning of the video were great.

 SDB 79


I've used those tools before, but it's not the same as following 
a podcast on Podbean, and you're not going to get into anyone's 
search on the podcast services.
Jul 11 2022
prev sibling next sibling parent reply matheus <matheus gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 16:17:11 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

 ...


Very nice interview, and if you don't mind can I give you a 
suggestion?

I'd like to suggest that you don't make these "micro-cuts" 
through the interview/discussion, let it flow. I've been seeing 
this around these videos and I think it's better to let it go as 
is (Like it was live). Or if possible have the 2 versions (With 
and without cuts).

Thanks,

Matheus.
Jul 11 2022
parent reply Mike Parker <aldacron gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 11 July 2022 at 13:09:37 UTC, matheus wrote:

 On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 16:17:11 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

 ...


 Very nice interview, and if you don't mind can I give you a 
 suggestion?

 I'd like to suggest that you don't make these "micro-cuts" 
 through the interview/discussion, let it flow. I've been seeing 
 this around these videos and I think it's better to let it go 
 as is (Like it was live). Or if possible have the 2 versions 
 (With and without cuts).


Thanks! Unfortunately, I disagree about the cuts. The primary 
motivation is to trim the length of the video down. I think 
that's important for YouTube videos. The cuts I make can 
cumulatively lop several minutes off the video. I wasn't as 
aggressive with this one as I have been with the DConf Online 
vids. Most of what I cut out was dead air, but I also got rid of 
a few uhs and ahhs, a handful of tied tongues, and a couple of 
instances where one of us had to start over again.

As for two versions, I'm not really interested in adding the 
extra time for that to my workflow :-)
Jul 11 2022
parent reply Adam D Ruppe <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 11 July 2022 at 13:37:10 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

 The primary motivation is to trim the length of the video down.
 I think that's important for YouTube videos.


This has changed a lot over recent years - the youtube algorithm 
now rewards longer length videos. It is the rise of the podcast!

The average youtube show I watch now is over 90 minutes long and 
these are pretty popular so it isn't just me. (Of course, I 
listen to them at 2x speed...)

Though, I don't expect there'd be much of a difference either way 
between 55 and 60 minutes anyway... it'd depend more on how it 
sounds and flows to see if it worth your time I guess.

I do think it turned out ok as it is btw.
Jul 11 2022
parent reply jmh530 <john.michael.hall gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 11 July 2022 at 15:33:32 UTC, Adam D Ruppe wrote:

 On Monday, 11 July 2022 at 13:37:10 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

 The primary motivation is to trim the length of the video down.
 I think that's important for YouTube videos.


 This has changed a lot over recent years - the youtube 
 algorithm now rewards longer length videos. It is the rise of 
 the podcast!

 [snip]


Many podcasts edit for the uhs and ahhs. Nothing wrong with that.
Jul 11 2022
parent reply bachmeier <no spam.net> writes:
On Monday, 11 July 2022 at 15:53:40 UTC, jmh530 wrote:


 Many podcasts edit for the uhs and ahhs. Nothing wrong with 
 that.


One reason is that the editing can be done automatically by 
services like Descript. I don't know if Mike does it manually.
Jul 11 2022
parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 7/11/2022 2:18 PM, bachmeier wrote:

 One reason is that the editing can be done automatically by services like 
 Descript. I don't know if Mike does it manually.


Doing it automatically means then you've got to spend time comparing the two to 
ensure it cut in the right places :-(
Jul 16 2022
prev sibling parent Dukc <ajieskola gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 16:17:11 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

 I'll plan to do one of these every other month, so I'll be 
 reaching out to people around the D community as time goes on.


This was great, looking forward to more of these. I've thought 
that you could well write a blog series about D history. This is 
pretty much it, except that it's a video series, not a post 
series.

Plus you're also giving a talk about a similar subject at DConf.
Jul 16 2022