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reply Chris R. Miller <lordSaurontheGreat gmail.com> writes:
In my true always-late fashion, I finally finished my latest library and
compiler package.  This one was slightly harder due to some changes in DWT. 
Suffice it to say that it all works now.  I've tested it all out and it's good
to go.

http://www.fsdev.net/gf/project/dmd-snaps/frs/?action=FrsReleaseView&release_id=107

So if you're stuck trying to get the latest version of DWT to work or something
similar to that effect, this could be useful, since I've already done that bit
of work for you.  So if you want to, feel free to let me know what you think!
May 03 2008
next sibling parent reply pragma <eric.t.anderton gmail.com> writes:
Chris R. Miller wrote:

 In my true always-late fashion, I finally finished my latest library and
compiler package.  This one was slightly harder due to some changes in DWT. 
Suffice it to say that it all works now.  I've tested it all out and it's good
to go.
 
 http://www.fsdev.net/gf/project/dmd-snaps/frs/?action=FrsReleaseView&release_id=107
 
 So if you're stuck trying to get the latest version of DWT to work or
something similar to that effect, this could be useful, since I've already done
that bit of work for you.  So if you want to, feel free to let me know what you
think!
 


Awesome.  The community has needed a comprehensive toolkit package for 
some time.  Thanks for doing this! ;)

There's just one wart: You're too short on details! I had to download 
the package and browse the contents before I realized what you did here. 


http://www.fsdev.net/gf/project/dmd-snaps/

This toolkit is an all-in-one download for Windows, that includes the 
following:

DMD (complete with DM linker and 'make')
DDBG
Tango
DSSS (complete with 'rebuild')
DWT
DDBI
Derelict
...and a host of misc. modules by Derek and Gregor.

IMO, the only thing that is missing is Tangobos. ;)

- Pragma
May 03 2008
parent reply Chris R. Miller <lordSaurontheGreat gmail.com> writes:
pragma Wrote:


 Chris R. Miller wrote:

 In my true always-late fashion, I finally finished my latest library and
compiler package.  This one was slightly harder due to some changes in DWT. 
Suffice it to say that it all works now.  I've tested it all out and it's good
to go.
 
 http://www.fsdev.net/gf/project/dmd-snaps/frs/?action=FrsReleaseView&release_id=107
 
 So if you're stuck trying to get the latest version of DWT to work or
something similar to that effect, this could be useful, since I've already done
that bit of work for you.  So if you want to, feel free to let me know what you
think!
 


 
 Awesome.  The community has needed a comprehensive toolkit package for 
 some time.  Thanks for doing this! ;)


IMHO is absolutely essential.  Newbies coming into D aren't going to be
interested in learning how to build the development toolchain, and I would
think that a zero-to-compile package is absolutely necessary to getting people
who're interested in D to the point where they can actually start working with
D.

Right now the D Programming Community is rather small, only about 50 people at
most if I'm estimating correctly.  Making it bigger is high on the priority
list.  Well, at least on the priority list of a groupie like me.


 There's just one wart: You're too short on details! I had to download 


Indeed, when talking about a language as fascinating and exciting as D, it is
extremely difficult to not be too short on details!


 the package and browse the contents before I realized what you did here. 
 
 http://www.fsdev.net/gf/project/dmd-snaps/
 
 This toolkit is an all-in-one download for Windows, that includes the 
 following:
 
 DMD (complete with DM linker and 'make')
 DDBG
 Tango
 DSSS (complete with 'rebuild')
 DWT
 DDBI
 Derelict
 ...and a host of misc. modules by Derek and Gregor.
 
 IMO, the only thing that is missing is Tangobos. ;)


Hm, I remember reading that Tangobos can induce some problems.  This was way
back during Tango 0.99.4 era IIRC, and stuff could have changed by now.  If
someone can vouch for the stability of Tangobos today, I'd be more than happy
to add it to the next release.
May 03 2008
parent reply Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
 IMO, the only thing that is missing is Tangobos. ;)


 
 Hm, I remember reading that Tangobos can induce some problems.  This was way
back during Tango 0.99.4 era IIRC, and stuff could have changed by now.  If
someone can vouch for the stability of Tangobos today, I'd be more than happy
to add it to the next release.


I don't know what problems you're referring to, but I think it works 
pretty well these days.

--bb
May 04 2008
parent torhu <no spam.invalid> writes:
Bill Baxter wrote:

 IMO, the only thing that is missing is Tangobos. ;)


 
 Hm, I remember reading that Tangobos can induce some problems.  This was way
back during Tango 0.99.4 era IIRC, and stuff could have changed by now.  If
someone can vouch for the stability of Tangobos today, I'd be more than happy
to add it to the next release.


 
 I don't know what problems you're referring to, but I think it works 
 pretty well these days.


Might have been the problems with multiply defined symbols.  It's 
possible that there are less of those now that your bug 1833 has been 
fixed.  Can't remember what other problems there were, nowadays I just 
avoid tangobos for anything but small test apps.

Using parts of tangobos in a program that's mainly tango-based might be 
ok, though.  Not that I see that point of that, since in most cases 
you'd just be introducing dependencies that you could have avoided easily.
May 04 2008
prev sibling parent reply Bjoern <nanali nospam-wanadoo.fr> writes:
Chris R. Miller schrieb:

 In my true always-late fashion, I finally finished my latest library and
compiler package.  This one was slightly harder due to some changes in DWT. 
Suffice it to say that it all works now.  I've tested it all out and it's good
to go.
 
 http://www.fsdev.net/gf/project/dmd-snaps/frs/?action=FrsReleaseView&release_id=107
 
 So if you're stuck trying to get the latest version of DWT to work or
something similar to that effect, this could be useful, since I've already done
that bit of work for you.  So if you want to, feel free to let me know what you
think!
 


Chris,
just want to say

  THANKS !!!

AND THE CROWD CALLED OUT FOR MORE

Erm, due to the fact that Eric (Pragma) answered...hope he's listening.. 
what about DDL ?
Bjoern
May 03 2008
parent reply pragma <eric.t.anderton gmail.com> writes:
Bjoern wrote:

 Chris R. Miller schrieb:

 In my true always-late fashion, I finally finished my latest library 
 and compiler package.  This one was slightly harder due to some 
 changes in DWT.  Suffice it to say that it all works now.  I've tested 
 it all out and it's good to go.

 http://www.fsdev.net/gf/project/dmd-snaps/frs/?action=FrsReleas
View&release_id=107 


 So if you're stuck trying to get the latest version of DWT to work or 
 something similar to that effect, this could be useful, since I've 
 already done that bit of work for you.  So if you want to, feel free 
 to let me know what you think!


 Chris,
 just want to say
 
  THANKS !!!
 
 AND THE CROWD CALLED OUT FOR MORE
 
 Erm, due to the fact that Eric (Pragma) answered...hope he's listening.. 
 what about DDL ?
 Bjoern


DDL has been on life support thanks, in no small way, to Tom S and 
Team0xf.  In fact, he recently committed a patch that cuts DDL's memory 
consumption *in half*!

However, as it is *still* a beta library, it is in dire need of 
additional engineering and frankly, I'm swamped.  If anything, it needs 
to be DSSS-ified - if anyone is up for the task, I will be more than 
happy to add the needed files/changes to the DDL SVN.

- Pragma
May 03 2008
parent reply Bjoern <nanali nospam-wanadoo.fr> writes:
pragma schrieb:

 Bjoern wrote:

 Chris R. Miller schrieb:

 In my true always-late fashion, I finally finished my latest library 
 and compiler package.  This one was slightly harder due to some 
 changes in DWT.  Suffice it to say that it all works now.  I've 
 tested it all out and it's good to go.

 http://www.fsdev.net/gf/project/dmd-snaps/frs/?action=FrsReleas
View&release_id=107 


 So if you're stuck trying to get the latest version of DWT to work or 
 something similar to that effect, this could be useful, since I've 
 already done that bit of work for you.  So if you want to, feel free 
 to let me know what you think!


 Chris,
 just want to say

  THANKS !!!

 AND THE CROWD CALLED OUT FOR MORE

 Erm, due to the fact that Eric (Pragma) answered...hope he's 
 listening.. what about DDL ?
 Bjoern


 
 DDL has been on life support thanks, in no small way, to Tom S and 
 Team0xf.  In fact, he recently committed a patch that cuts DDL's memory 
 consumption *in half*!
 
 However, as it is *still* a beta library, it is in dire need of 
 additional engineering and frankly, I'm swamped.  If anything, it needs 
 to be DSSS-ified - if anyone is up for the task, I will be more than 
 happy to add the needed files/changes to the DDL SVN.
 
 - Pragma


Thanks Pragma, not that I want to produce too much stress..

HOPE YOU KNOW HOW IMPORTANT DDL IS !!! ????

<g> Well,  Tom did a great job. (thanks)
Bjoern
ps Even as beta, Id like to use DDL to enable:establis IDE  plugins (win 
only)
May 03 2008
parent reply Chris R. Miller <lordSaurontheGreat gmail.com> writes:
Bjoern Wrote:


 pragma schrieb:

 Bjoern wrote:

 Chris R. Miller schrieb:

 In my true always-late fashion, I finally finished my latest library 
 and compiler package.  This one was slightly harder due to some 
 changes in DWT.  Suffice it to say that it all works now.  I've 
 tested it all out and it's good to go.

 http://www.fsdev.net/gf/project/dmd-snaps/frs/?action=FrsReleas
View&release_id=107 


 So if you're stuck trying to get the latest version of DWT to work or 
 something similar to that effect, this could be useful, since I've 
 already done that bit of work for you.  So if you want to, feel free 
 to let me know what you think!


 Chris,
 just want to say

  THANKS !!!

 AND THE CROWD CALLED OUT FOR MORE

 Erm, due to the fact that Eric (Pragma) answered...hope he's 
 listening.. what about DDL ?
 Bjoern


 
 DDL has been on life support thanks, in no small way, to Tom S and 
 Team0xf.  In fact, he recently committed a patch that cuts DDL's memory 
 consumption *in half*!
 
 However, as it is *still* a beta library, it is in dire need of 
 additional engineering and frankly, I'm swamped.  If anything, it needs 
 to be DSSS-ified - if anyone is up for the task, I will be more than 
 happy to add the needed files/changes to the DDL SVN.
 
 - Pragma


 
 Thanks Pragma, not that I want to produce too much stress..
 
 HOPE YOU KNOW HOW IMPORTANT DDL IS !!! ????


Yes, I agree that DDL is a very important tool.  I've already put it on my
to-do list, so it'll inevitably get done now.
May 03 2008
parent Chris R. Miller <lordSaurontheGreat gmail.com> writes:
Chris R. Miller Wrote:


 Bjoern Wrote:
 

 pragma schrieb:

 Bjoern wrote:

 Erm, due to the fact that Eric (Pragma) answered...hope he's 
 listening.. what about DDL ?
 Bjoern


 
 DDL has been on life support thanks, in no small way, to Tom S and 
 Team0xf.  In fact, he recently committed a patch that cuts DDL's memory 
 consumption *in half*!
 
 However, as it is *still* a beta library, it is in dire need of 
 additional engineering and frankly, I'm swamped.  If anything, it needs 
 to be DSSS-ified - if anyone is up for the task, I will be more than 
 happy to add the needed files/changes to the DDL SVN.


 
 Thanks Pragma, not that I want to produce too much stress..
 
 HOPE YOU KNOW HOW IMPORTANT DDL IS !!! ????


 
 Yes, I agree that DDL is a very important tool.  I've already put it on my
to-do list, so it'll inevitably get done now.


And so it was inevitable.  DDL is actually easy to install, though the
utilities take a bit more know-how to compile - or msys, which I didn't have on
hand.

Anyways, I got DDL in there.  I didn't think it as worth a full version
increment, since nothing else changed at all.  You can download the new version
here:

http://tinyurl.com/5fqfxj

Just merge it onto what you already have, since nothing actually changed,
though stuff was added.
May 04 2008