• Andrei Alexandrescu (4/4) May 15 2013 Watch, discuss, vote! As discussed you may want to use reddit for
• Walter Bright (2/5) May 15 2013 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1edih2/dconf_2013_day_1_tal...
• Andrei Alexandrescu (3/10) May 15 2013 One can only assume you didn't click that short URL... :o)
• Walter Bright (3/15) May 15 2013 I did, but only because I trust you. I like to know where urls go before...
• Nick Sabalausky (10/23) May 15 2013 The problem with short URLs is that they're completely opaque: you have
• Walter Bright (3/9) May 15 2013 Twitter used to pretty much require use of shortened URLs, but they fixe...
• Nick Sabalausky (6/17) May 15 2013 That's interesting (and I hadn't even thought of that issue). Did they
• Adam D. Ruppe (5/7) May 15 2013 This is basically it. When you post a link to twitter, they
• Bill Baxter (2/10) May 16 2013
• Adam D. Ruppe (9/10) May 16 2013 Sort of. I just tried this
• Bill Baxter (11/28) May 16 2013 I see. So I guess they have some 'within reason' limit on the length of ...
• 1100110 (11/37) May 16 2013 it_by_pretending_your_content_is_actually_a_url>?
• Walter Bright (2/4) May 15 2013 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5713539
• Nick Sabalausky (4/7) May 15 2013 Torrents and all other links:
• Nick Sabalausky (10/15) May 16 2013 Fantastic talk. I had read about dependency injection before, but ended

Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:

Watch, discuss, vote! As discussed you may want to use reddit for 
discussing this talk for a larger audience and impact.

http://goo.gl/VnDVi


Andrei

Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:

On 5/15/2013 3:25 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 Watch, discuss, vote! As discussed you may want to use reddit for discussing
 this talk for a larger audience and impact.

 http://goo.gl/VnDVi

http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1edih2/dconf_2013_day_1_talk_4_writing_testable_code_in/

Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:

On 5/15/13 1:35 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
 On 5/15/2013 3:25 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 Watch, discuss, vote! As discussed you may want to use reddit for
 discussing
 this talk for a larger audience and impact.

 http://goo.gl/VnDVi

 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1edih2/dconf_2013_day_1_talk_4_writing_testable_code_in/

One can only assume you didn't click that short URL... :o)

Andrei

Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:

On 5/15/2013 12:08 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 On 5/15/13 1:35 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
 On 5/15/2013 3:25 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 Watch, discuss, vote! As discussed you may want to use reddit for
 discussing
 this talk for a larger audience and impact.

 http://goo.gl/VnDVi

 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1edih2/dconf_2013_day_1_talk_4_writing_testable_code_in/

 One can only assume you didn't click that short URL... :o)

I did, but only because I trust you. I like to know where urls go before 
clicking, and am guessing that others do as well.

Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:

On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:08:34 -0400
Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:

 On 5/15/13 1:35 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
 On 5/15/2013 3:25 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 Watch, discuss, vote! As discussed you may want to use reddit for
 discussing
 this talk for a larger audience and impact.

 http://goo.gl/VnDVi

 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1edih2/dconf_2013_day_1_talk_4_writing_testable_code_in/

 
 One can only assume you didn't click that short URL... :o)
 

The problem with short URLs is that they're completely opaque: you have
no idea where they go. Ex: I didn't know if it was for the reddit,
youtube, or the DConf page. Besides, hyperlinking and copy/paste tend to
obviate any benefit of shortened URLs. "goo.gl" and such are extremely
useful if you're giving someone a URL over the phone, but aside from
that, I've never seen much of a point.

Obviously I'm not saying "How dare you use a short URL, jerk!" ;)
I'm just sayin', FWIW.

Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:

On 5/15/2013 1:08 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 The problem with short URLs is that they're completely opaque: you have
 no idea where they go. Ex: I didn't know if it was for the reddit,
 youtube, or the DConf page. Besides, hyperlinking and copy/paste tend to
 obviate any benefit of shortened URLs. "goo.gl" and such are extremely
 useful if you're giving someone a URL over the phone, but aside from
 that, I've never seen much of a point.

Twitter used to pretty much require use of shortened URLs, but they fixed that 
problem, and now I use full length ones on it.

Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:

On Wed, 15 May 2013 14:18:30 -0700
Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> wrote:

 On 5/15/2013 1:08 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 The problem with short URLs is that they're completely opaque: you
 have no idea where they go. Ex: I didn't know if it was for the
 reddit, youtube, or the DConf page. Besides, hyperlinking and
 copy/paste tend to obviate any benefit of shortened URLs. "goo.gl"
 and such are extremely useful if you're giving someone a URL over
 the phone, but aside from that, I've never seen much of a point.

 
 Twitter used to pretty much require use of shortened URLs, but they
 fixed that problem, and now I use full length ones on it.
 

That's interesting (and I hadn't even thought of that issue). Did they
make that change by increaseing the max message length, or do the
detect URLs and not count them towards the total msg length, or
something else?

"Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:

On Wednesday, 15 May 2013 at 23:16:02 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 detect URLs and not count them towards the total msg length, or
 something else?

This is basically it. When you post a link to twitter, they 
detect the url and rewrite it into t.co/whatever shortlink on 
their end. Then that is used in the message and counts toward the 
length instead of the original full link.

Bill Baxter <wbaxter gmail.com> writes:

http://does_that_mean_you.can.get.around/the-140-character_limit_by_pretending_your_content_is_actually_a_url?


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Adam D. Ruppe <destructionator gmail.com>wrote:

 On Wednesday, 15 May 2013 at 23:16:02 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:

 detect URLs and not count them towards the total msg length, or
 something else?

 This is basically it. When you post a link to twitter, they detect the url
 and rewrite it into t.co/whatever shortlink on their end. Then that is
 used in the message and counts toward the length instead of the original
 full link.

"Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:

On Thursday, 16 May 2013 at 16:51:13 UTC, Bill Baxter wrote:
 http://does_that_mean_you.can.get.around/the-140-character_limit_by_pretending_your_content_is_actually_a_url?

Sort of. I just tried this

just trying this
http://does_that_mean_you.can.get.around.com/the-140-character_limit_by_pretending_your_content_is_actually_a_url+or+not+because+i+gotta+say+i+don't+really+lnow+this+i+guess+you+prolly+can+and+wow+this+is+one+long+Tweet+but+it+still+says+i+have+99+chars+left?

and it said i still had 99 chars left. But when you post it, the 
link will show up as something like t.co/stuff so to read the 
message, people will have to click the link anyway... and at that 
point you might as well just link to a regular webpage with your 
text.

Bill Baxter <wbaxter gmail.com> writes:

I see. So I guess they have some 'within reason' limit on the length of a
url they will show in-line.  Makes sense.


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Adam D. Ruppe <destructionator gmail.com>w=
rote:

 On Thursday, 16 May 2013 at 16:51:13 UTC, Bill Baxter wrote:

 http://does_that_mean_you.can.**get.around/the-140-character_**
 limit_by_pretending_your_**content_is_actually_a_url<http://does_that_me=


an_you.can.get.around/the-140-character_limit_by_pretending_your_content_is=
_actually_a_url>
 ?

 Sort of. I just tried this

 just trying this
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 character_limit_by_pretending_**your_content_is_actually_a_**
 url+or+not+because+i+gotta+**say+i+don't+really+lnow+this+**
 i+guess+you+prolly+can+and+**wow+this+is+one+long+Tweet+**
 but+it+still+says+i+have+99+**chars+left<http://does_that_mean_you.can.ge=

t.around.com/the-140-character_limit_by_pretending_your_content_is_actually=
_a_url+or+not+because+i+gotta+say+i+don't+really+lnow+this+i+guess+you+prol=
ly+can+and+wow+this+is+one+long+Tweet+but+it+still+says+i+have+99+chars+lef=
t>
 ?

 and it said i still had 99 chars left. But when you post it, the link wil=

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 show up as something like t.co/stuff so to read the message, people will
 have to click the link anyway... and at that point you might as well just
 link to a regular webpage with your text.

1100110 <0b1100110 gmail.com> writes:

On 05/16/2013 12:19 PM, Bill Baxter wrote:
 I see. So I guess they have some 'within reason' limit on the length of=

 a url they will show in-line.  Makes sense.
=20
=20
 On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Adam D. Ruppe
 <destructionator gmail.com <mailto:destructionator gmail.com>> wrote:
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     On Thursday, 16 May 2013 at 16:51:13 UTC, Bill Baxter wrote:
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         http://does_that_mean_you.can.__get.around/the-140-character___=

limit_by_pretending_your___content_is_actually_a_url
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it_by_pretending_your_content_is_actually_a_url>?
=20
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     Sort of. I just tried this
=20
     just trying this
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otta+__say+i+don't+really+lnow+this+__i+guess+you+prolly+can+and+__wow+th=
is+is+one+long+Tweet+__but+it+still+says+i+have+99+__chars+left
     <http://does_that_mean_you.can.get.around.com/the-140-character_lim=

it_by_pretending_your_content_is_actually_a_url+or+not+because+i+gotta+sa=
y+i+don't+really+lnow+this+i+guess+you+prolly+can+and+wow+this+is+one+lon=
g+Tweet+but+it+still+says+i+have+99+chars+left>?
=20
     and it said i still had 99 chars left. But when you post it, the
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     and at that point you might as well just link to a regular webpage
     with your text.
=20
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I'm sorry, all I heard was "secret messages."

Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:

On 5/15/2013 3:25 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 Watch, discuss, vote! As discussed you may want to use reddit for discussing
 this talk for a larger audience and impact.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5713539

Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:

On Wed, 15 May 2013 06:25:38 -0400
Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:
 Watch, discuss, vote! As discussed you may want to use reddit for 
 discussing this talk for a larger audience and impact.
 

Torrents and all other links:
http://semitwist.com/download/misc/dconf2013/

Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:

On Wed, 15 May 2013 06:25:38 -0400
Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:

 Watch, discuss, vote! As discussed you may want to use reddit for 
 discussing this talk for a larger audience and impact.
 
 http://goo.gl/VnDVi
 

Fantastic talk. I had read about dependency injection before, but ended
up dismissing it as "Java-born overengineering". This changed my mind
within the first 15 minutes.

Related to what Ben was saying around 34:00-35:00 or so about looking
forward with this and being able to say "Oh, XXXX software was made in
D, so good chance it's pretty stable": I think a mature version of
deject would be a great thing to have in Phobos, building on how well
built-in unittests have worked out.