• Trevor Parscal (18/18) Jun 06 2005 So anyhoo, I have offered before, but here it is again.
• Walter (3/8) Jun 06 2005 Why not take the D front page and do a mockup?
• Trevor Parscal (7/10) Jun 06 2005 Will do Walter!
• Trevor Parscal (20/34) Jun 08 2005 OK, I spent a bit of time on this, but there is more that could be done.
• Dave (5/39) Jun 08 2005 That is outstanding!!
• clayasaurus (2/43) Jun 08 2005
• Pablo Aguilar (3/22) Jun 08 2005 Looks great!
• Walter (6/20) Jun 08 2005 I think you've done a great job with this.
• Nod (6/31) Jun 08 2005 I think he means the PHP I used to create my mockup at
• Unknown W. Brackets (3/9) Jun 08 2005 Looks to me like the idea is to only show the table of contents when the...
• Nod (11/19) Jun 08 2005 Here you go, I have made it semi-understandable now, up from incomprehen...
• Trevor Parscal (9/14) Jun 08 2005 I am definately going to keep any css that is usefull.
• Hasan Aljudy (17/55) Jun 08 2005 Dude that is awesome! I love it!
• Trevor Parscal (20/26) Jun 08 2005 Agreed. I guess we should let walter reword it. I don't feel like I am
• Dejan Lekic (10/10) Jun 10 2005 Again, You're surprising me with Your design skills Trevor... :)
• Trevor Parscal (12/12) Jun 10 2005 Dejan!!!!
• Andrew Fedoniouk (6/24) Jun 06 2005 I did attempt sometime ago.
• David L. Davis (7/36) Jun 06 2005 Looks Nice! Very clean and modern looking, and good use of color.
• John Reimer (3/8) Jun 06 2005 Nice, Andrew. I like it.
• Andrew Fedoniouk (15/22) Jun 06 2005 Thanks, guys, it was just a quick scetch made at rest
• Walter (3/6) Jun 07 2005 I think you've got some good ideas there.
• Andrew Fedoniouk (4/10) Jun 07 2005 I hope you are speaking about the content of code block :)))
• Nod (4/22) Jun 06 2005 Hey, really nice work. I have already begun working on this though. Woul...
• Trevor Parscal (7/9) Jun 07 2005 Well, what have you got so far?
• Nod (14/18) Jun 07 2005 Yeah, that *would* be valuable info, wouldn't it :)
• Lars Ivar Igesund (10/36) Jun 07 2005 I think your design is nice, but now I noticed what I think is a problem
• J C Calvarese (13/38) Jun 07 2005 I agree, but we might need to do one thing at a time. ;)
• J C Calvarese (7/22) Jun 07 2005 Right, I looked at it in IE and the "Test of Boxes" didn't look quite th...
• Nod (10/14) Jun 07 2005 Thanks to both of you!
• Nod (6/12) Jun 07 2005 Yes, IE can be fixed, but it is nontrivial, so I won't spend time on it ...
• J C Calvarese (4/17) Jun 07 2005 Yes, I'd wait for some interest from Walter, too.
• Thomas Kuehne (10/22) Jun 06 2005 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Trevor Parscal <trevorparscal hotmail.com> writes:

So anyhoo, I have offered before, but here it is again.

Maybe D's site could use a little bit of graphical help. I would love to 
help out (for free of course), if Walter wants some help, otherwise, 
it's all good, just an offer. And if my crap sucks, than there would be 
no obligation to use it.

Some sites I have done recently (as a consultant)

www.house.gov/bean
www.house.gov/costa
www.techpaths.com

and some for free (not professionally)
www.clanillogic.com
www.ey3dea.com

So yeah, Walter, if you ever need a hand, let me know.
-- 
Thanks,
Trevor Parscal
www.trevorparscal.com
trevorparscal hotmail.com

"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

"Trevor Parscal" <trevorparscal hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d829rh$sd8$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 So anyhoo, I have offered before, but here it is again.

 Maybe D's site could use a little bit of graphical help. I would love to
 help out (for free of course), if Walter wants some help, otherwise,
 it's all good, just an offer. And if my crap sucks, than there would be
 no obligation to use it.

Why not take the D front page and do a mockup?

Trevor Parscal <trevorparscal hotmail.com> writes:

Walter wrote:
 
 Why not take the D front page and do a mockup?
 

Will do Walter!

-- 
Thanks,
Trevor Parscal
www.trevorparscal.com
trevorparscal hotmail.com

Trevor Parscal <trevorparscal hotmail.com> writes:

Walter wrote:
 "Trevor Parscal" <trevorparscal hotmail.com> wrote in message
 news:d829rh$sd8$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 
So anyhoo, I have offered before, but here it is again.

Maybe D's site could use a little bit of graphical help. I would love to
help out (for free of course), if Walter wants some help, otherwise,
it's all good, just an offer. And if my crap sucks, than there would be
no obligation to use it.

 
 
 Why not take the D front page and do a mockup?
 
 

OK, I spent a bit of time on this, but there is more that could be done.

I showed the site as having an actual "home" page, which would be a 
slight change from how it is now. Also I intend on keeping the frames 
for the language documentation and comparison pages, but other stuff 
would be on normal site pages. (or so the concept goes)..

You could keep it all in frames, but I really think frames have their 
place, and a download page isn't one of them.

There is so much I could do to help lay the site's actual content out in 
an easier to use, more accessible, and more aesthetic manner. You can 
start to see what I mean by this image I hope.

Anyhoo, I would love to work with the PHP that is already in existence 
for this effort.

Hope you guys like it, and if you don't let me know what you dislike in 
as detailed manner as possible.

-- 
Thanks,
Trevor Parscal
www.trevorparscal.com
trevorparscal hotmail.com

"Dave" <Dave_member pathlink.com> writes:

That is outstanding!!

- Dave

"Trevor Parscal" <trevorparscal hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:d86s7d$1qnd$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Walter wrote:
 "Trevor Parscal" <trevorparscal hotmail.com> wrote in message
 news:d829rh$sd8$1 digitaldaemon.com...

So anyhoo, I have offered before, but here it is again.

Maybe D's site could use a little bit of graphical help. I would love to
help out (for free of course), if Walter wants some help, otherwise,
it's all good, just an offer. And if my crap sucks, than there would be
no obligation to use it.


 Why not take the D front page and do a mockup?

 OK, I spent a bit of time on this, but there is more that could be done.

 I showed the site as having an actual "home" page, which would be a
 slight change from how it is now. Also I intend on keeping the frames
 for the language documentation and comparison pages, but other stuff
 would be on normal site pages. (or so the concept goes)..

 You could keep it all in frames, but I really think frames have their
 place, and a download page isn't one of them.

 There is so much I could do to help lay the site's actual content out in
 an easier to use, more accessible, and more aesthetic manner. You can
 start to see what I mean by this image I hope.

 Anyhoo, I would love to work with the PHP that is already in existence
 for this effort.

 Hope you guys like it, and if you don't let me know what you dislike in
 as detailed manner as possible.

 -- 
 Thanks,
 Trevor Parscal
 www.trevorparscal.com
 trevorparscal hotmail.com


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

clayasaurus <clayasaurus gmail.com> writes:

I like it. Very clean and professional looking.

Trevor Parscal wrote:
 Walter wrote:
 
 "Trevor Parscal" <trevorparscal hotmail.com> wrote in message
 news:d829rh$sd8$1 digitaldaemon.com...

 So anyhoo, I have offered before, but here it is again.

 Maybe D's site could use a little bit of graphical help. I would love to
 help out (for free of course), if Walter wants some help, otherwise,
 it's all good, just an offer. And if my crap sucks, than there would be
 no obligation to use it.



 Why not take the D front page and do a mockup?

 
 OK, I spent a bit of time on this, but there is more that could be done.
 
 I showed the site as having an actual "home" page, which would be a 
 slight change from how it is now. Also I intend on keeping the frames 
 for the language documentation and comparison pages, but other stuff 
 would be on normal site pages. (or so the concept goes)..
 
 You could keep it all in frames, but I really think frames have their 
 place, and a download page isn't one of them.
 
 There is so much I could do to help lay the site's actual content out in 
 an easier to use, more accessible, and more aesthetic manner. You can 
 start to see what I mean by this image I hope.
 
 Anyhoo, I would love to work with the PHP that is already in existence 
 for this effort.
 
 Hope you guys like it, and if you don't let me know what you dislike in 
 as detailed manner as possible.
 
 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 

"Pablo Aguilar" <paguilarg hotmail.com> writes:

Looks great!

"Trevor Parscal" <trevorparscal hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:d86s7d$1qnd$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 OK, I spent a bit of time on this, but there is more that could be done.

 I showed the site as having an actual "home" page, which would be a
 slight change from how it is now. Also I intend on keeping the frames
 for the language documentation and comparison pages, but other stuff
 would be on normal site pages. (or so the concept goes)..

 You could keep it all in frames, but I really think frames have their
 place, and a download page isn't one of them.

 There is so much I could do to help lay the site's actual content out in
 an easier to use, more accessible, and more aesthetic manner. You can
 start to see what I mean by this image I hope.

 Anyhoo, I would love to work with the PHP that is already in existence
 for this effort.

 Hope you guys like it, and if you don't let me know what you dislike in
 as detailed manner as possible.

 -- 
 Thanks,
 Trevor Parscal
 www.trevorparscal.com
 trevorparscal hotmail.com 

"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

"Trevor Parscal" <trevorparscal hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d86s7d$1qnd$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 OK, I spent a bit of time on this, but there is more that could be done.

 I showed the site as having an actual "home" page, which would be a
 slight change from how it is now. Also I intend on keeping the frames
 for the language documentation and comparison pages, but other stuff
 would be on normal site pages. (or so the concept goes)..

 You could keep it all in frames, but I really think frames have their
 place, and a download page isn't one of them.

 There is so much I could do to help lay the site's actual content out in
 an easier to use, more accessible, and more aesthetic manner. You can
 start to see what I mean by this image I hope.

 Anyhoo, I would love to work with the PHP that is already in existence
 for this effort.

 Hope you guys like it, and if you don't let me know what you dislike in
 as detailed manner as possible.

I think you've done a great job with this.

I agree with abandoning the use of frames, but I'd still like to see the
Table of Contents on the left for each page, including the 'home' page.

What is the PHP already in existence? The D web site doesn't use PHP.

Nod <Nod_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <d87fs1$2dv3$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
"Trevor Parscal" <trevorparscal hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d86s7d$1qnd$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 OK, I spent a bit of time on this, but there is more that could be done.

 I showed the site as having an actual "home" page, which would be a
 slight change from how it is now. Also I intend on keeping the frames
 for the language documentation and comparison pages, but other stuff
 would be on normal site pages. (or so the concept goes)..

 You could keep it all in frames, but I really think frames have their
 place, and a download page isn't one of them.

 There is so much I could do to help lay the site's actual content out in
 an easier to use, more accessible, and more aesthetic manner. You can
 start to see what I mean by this image I hope.

 Anyhoo, I would love to work with the PHP that is already in existence
 for this effort.

 Hope you guys like it, and if you don't let me know what you dislike in
 as detailed manner as possible.

I think you've done a great job with this.

I agree with abandoning the use of frames, but I'd still like to see the
Table of Contents on the left for each page, including the 'home' page.

What is the PHP already in existence? The D web site doesn't use PHP.

I think he means the PHP I used to create my mockup at
http://nod.yi.org/d

And of course, Trevor, you'll have it. Let me just nicen it up a little.. Maybe
add a comment or two. And nice work!

-Nod-

"Unknown W. Brackets" <unknown simplemachines.org> writes:

Looks to me like the idea is to only show the table of contents when the 
"language" item is selected (but I'm just guessing.)

-[Unknown]


 I think you've done a great job with this.
 
 I agree with abandoning the use of frames, but I'd still like to see the
 Table of Contents on the left for each page, including the 'home' page.
 
 What is the PHP already in existence? The D web site doesn't use PHP.

Nod <Nod_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <d86s7d$1qnd$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Trevor Parscal says...
 <snip>

Anyhoo, I would love to work with the PHP that is already in existence 
for this effort.

Here you go, I have made it semi-understandable now, up from incomprehensible :)
http://nod.yi.org/d/d.tar.bz2

The script fetch5.pl is what I used to pull the pages a while back, It should
still work, if Walter has not changed too much in the toc.

Hope you guys like it, and if you don't let me know what you dislike in 
as detailed manner as possible.

I like it very much, only a minor thing: The language reference is a very large
part of the site, so I think it should have a bit more prominent place on the
frontpage.

Oh, and do you think it is possible to use some of the graphics / css from my
design for the reference? I'm kinda proud of some of the boxes...

-- 
Thanks,
Trevor Parscalz

-Nod-

Trevor Parscal <trevorparscal hotmail.com> writes:

Nod wrote:

 *snipt * Here you go, I have made it semi-understandable now, up from
incomprehensible :)
 http://nod.yi.org/d/d.tar.bz2
 

Thanks, that should help me out timewise, ALLOT!

 Oh, and do you think it is possible to use some of the graphics / css from my
 design for the reference? I'm kinda proud of some of the boxes...

I am definately going to keep any css that is usefull.

Why reinvent the wheel when you can make the wheel rounder instead?

-- 
Thanks,
Trevor Parscal
www.trevorparscal.com
trevorparscal hotmail.com

Hasan Aljudy <hasan.aljudy gmail.com> writes:

Dude that is awesome! I love it!
Where/How did you learn this stuff?

as for crits:
1- This one is not about your design, but rather about the content (text).
    The site looks professional now, it kinda feels weird when the text 
says "I did .. I was told .. I .. I .." etc. You know what I mean? It's 
also not very cear who "I" refers to.

2- As Nod pointed out, the main purpos of the site was the language 
reference. ".. so I think it should have a bit more prominent place on 
the frontpage."
     I'm thinking the table of content for the language should always be 
there, or atleast the "Home" section should be the "Language Reference" 
section .. or something like that.
     But then again, who am I telling you how to design the site, I suck 
at this stuff.

Anyway, you've done a good job.

Trevor Parscal wrote:
 Walter wrote:
 
 "Trevor Parscal" <trevorparscal hotmail.com> wrote in message
 news:d829rh$sd8$1 digitaldaemon.com...

 So anyhoo, I have offered before, but here it is again.

 Maybe D's site could use a little bit of graphical help. I would love to
 help out (for free of course), if Walter wants some help, otherwise,
 it's all good, just an offer. And if my crap sucks, than there would be
 no obligation to use it.



 Why not take the D front page and do a mockup?

 
 OK, I spent a bit of time on this, but there is more that could be done.
 
 I showed the site as having an actual "home" page, which would be a 
 slight change from how it is now. Also I intend on keeping the frames 
 for the language documentation and comparison pages, but other stuff 
 would be on normal site pages. (or so the concept goes)..
 
 You could keep it all in frames, but I really think frames have their 
 place, and a download page isn't one of them.
 
 There is so much I could do to help lay the site's actual content out in 
 an easier to use, more accessible, and more aesthetic manner. You can 
 start to see what I mean by this image I hope.
 
 Anyhoo, I would love to work with the PHP that is already in existence 
 for this effort.
 
 Hope you guys like it, and if you don't let me know what you dislike in 
 as detailed manner as possible.
 

Trevor Parscal <trevorparscal hotmail.com> writes:

Hasan Aljudy wrote:

 *snip* it kinda feels weird when the text 
 says "I did .. I was told .. I .. I .." etc. You know what I mean? It's 
 also not very cear who "I" refers to.

Agreed. I guess we should let walter reword it. I don't feel like I am 
in the place, personally, to put words in walter's mouth, so I just left 
the text as is for the example.

 *snip* I think it should have a bit more prominent place on 
 the frontpage."

Agreed, I diddn't really think about that when I first made it, but than 
again, while the language refrence is the most important part of the 
site, other things in the site are a little too burried in my opinion. 
For instance, downloading the compiler, news about what's up with the 
latest version, and links to D related sites. These are all important 
for people who are a little newer. Eventually I would love to build 
Walter a language refrence system that is better than MSDN, but I will 
take one step at a time.

 Anyway, you've done a good job.

Thanks man, I appriciate all the compliments from all of you. I love 
this comunity because they are really supportive, but still offer good 
ideas when they have them.

-- 
Thanks,
Trevor Parscal
www.trevorparscal.com
trevorparscal hotmail.com

Dejan Lekic <leka entropy.tmok.com> writes:

Again, You're surprising me with Your design skills Trevor... :)
This is awesome! - I think Walter should immediately use this design for
DigitalMars. In fact I think he should let you do the job for whole DM
website if You wish...

Walter?

-- 
...........
Dejan Lekic
  http://dejan.lekic.org
  

Trevor Parscal <trevorparscal hotmail.com> writes:

Dejan!!!!

Good to hear from you. Made me want to get back on IRC.. See you there..

And.. If walter wants me to do more, I would suspect he knows my email 
address...

  |
\ /
  v
-- 
Thanks,
Trevor Parscal
www.trevorparscal.com
trevorparscal hotmail.com

"Andrew Fedoniouk" <news terrainformatica.com> writes:

I did attempt sometime ago.
http://terrainformatica.com/harmonia/screenshots/dm.htm
just as possible color gamma solution and probably composition.

Andrew.


"Trevor Parscal" <trevorparscal hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:d829rh$sd8$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 So anyhoo, I have offered before, but here it is again.

 Maybe D's site could use a little bit of graphical help. I would love to 
 help out (for free of course), if Walter wants some help, otherwise, it's 
 all good, just an offer. And if my crap sucks, than there would be no 
 obligation to use it.

 Some sites I have done recently (as a consultant)

 www.house.gov/bean
 www.house.gov/costa
 www.techpaths.com

 and some for free (not professionally)
 www.clanillogic.com
 www.ey3dea.com

 So yeah, Walter, if you ever need a hand, let me know.
 -- 
 Thanks,
 Trevor Parscal
 www.trevorparscal.com
 trevorparscal hotmail.com 

David L. Davis <SpottedTiger yahoo.com> writes:

In article <d835q4$1h9u$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Andrew Fedoniouk says...
I did attempt sometime ago.
http://terrainformatica.com/harmonia/screenshots/dm.htm
just as possible color gamma solution and probably composition.

Andrew.


"Trevor Parscal" <trevorparscal hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:d829rh$sd8$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 So anyhoo, I have offered before, but here it is again.

 Maybe D's site could use a little bit of graphical help. I would love to 
 help out (for free of course), if Walter wants some help, otherwise, it's 
 all good, just an offer. And if my crap sucks, than there would be no 
 obligation to use it.

 Some sites I have done recently (as a consultant)

 www.house.gov/bean
 www.house.gov/costa
 www.techpaths.com

 and some for free (not professionally)
 www.clanillogic.com
 www.ey3dea.com

 So yeah, Walter, if you ever need a hand, let me know.
 -- 
 Thanks,
 Trevor Parscal
 www.trevorparscal.com
 trevorparscal hotmail.com 


Looks Nice! Very clean and modern looking, and good use of color.

David L.

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John Reimer <brk_6502 yahoo.com> writes:

Andrew Fedoniouk wrote:
 I did attempt sometime ago.
 http://terrainformatica.com/harmonia/screenshots/dm.htm
 just as possible color gamma solution and probably composition.
 
 Andrew.

Nice, Andrew.  I like it.

-JJR

"Andrew Fedoniouk" <news terrainformatica.com> writes:

"John Reimer" <brk_6502 yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:d83926$1kb7$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Andrew Fedoniouk wrote:
 I did attempt sometime ago.
 http://terrainformatica.com/harmonia/screenshots/dm.htm
 just as possible color gamma solution and probably composition.

 Andrew.

 Nice, Andrew.  I like it.

Thanks, guys, it was just a quick scetch made at rest
time. I am not a professional designer but I do
have art education. And this cannot be considered
as something finished. Just visual thoughts.
I think that Trevor will do this way better and
more professionally than me.
(I am using tenth rule of management here :-)

For programmers who are looking for color combinations
for their sites I would recommend this link:
http://www.colormatch.dk/
Tool is not perfect but allows to select harmonised (of course!) colors -
thus to avoid "christmas tree style".

Andrew. 

"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

"Andrew Fedoniouk" <news terrainformatica.com> wrote in message
news:d835q4$1h9u$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I did attempt sometime ago.
 http://terrainformatica.com/harmonia/screenshots/dm.htm
 just as possible color gamma solution and probably composition.

I think you've got some good ideas there.

"Andrew Fedoniouk" <news terrainformatica.com> writes:

"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote in message 
news:d83o15$211p$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 "Andrew Fedoniouk" <news terrainformatica.com> wrote in message
 news:d835q4$1h9u$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I did attempt sometime ago.
 http://terrainformatica.com/harmonia/screenshots/dm.htm
 just as possible color gamma solution and probably composition.

 I think you've got some good ideas there.

I hope you are speaking about the content of code block :)))

Andrew. 

Nod <Nod_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <d829rh$sd8$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Trevor Parscal says...
So anyhoo, I have offered before, but here it is again.

Maybe D's site could use a little bit of graphical help. I would love to 
help out (for free of course), if Walter wants some help, otherwise, 
it's all good, just an offer. And if my crap sucks, than there would be 
no obligation to use it.

Some sites I have done recently (as a consultant)

www.house.gov/bean
www.house.gov/costa
www.techpaths.com

and some for free (not professionally)
www.clanillogic.com
www.ey3dea.com

So yeah, Walter, if you ever need a hand, let me know.
-- 
Thanks,
Trevor Parscal
www.trevorparscal.com
trevorparscal hotmail.com

Hey, really nice work. I have already begun working on this though. Would you
like to team up to avoid duplication of effort?

-Nod-

Trevor Parscal <trevorparscal hotmail.com> writes:

Nod wrote:
 Hey, really nice work. I have already begun working on this though. Would you
 like to team up to avoid duplication of effort?

Well, what have you got so far?

-- 
Thanks,
Trevor Parscal
www.trevorparscal.com
trevorparscal hotmail.com

Nod <Nod_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <d83pol$2220$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Trevor Parscal says...
Nod wrote:
 Hey, really nice work. I have already begun working on this though. Would you
 like to team up to avoid duplication of effort?

Well, what have you got so far?

Yeah, that *would* be valuable info, wouldn't it :)

Heh sorry, I was going to follow up with that earlier, but ran into some
apache/php issues. I think I got it sorted now though.

Check out -> http://nod.yi.org/d/

Some notes:
* I have only tested it in the latest Firefox/Opera on Linux; hence it most
probably won't look right in IE.
* It's driven by php, so most links in the toc works. None of the in-page links
work though.
* Some pages are badly borked; notably compiler/phobos pages. Their html needs
fixing.
* Search doesn't work.

-Nod-

Lars Ivar Igesund <larsivar igesund.net> writes:

Nod wrote:

 In article <d83pol$2220$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Trevor Parscal says...
Nod wrote:
 Hey, really nice work. I have already begun working on this though.
 Would you like to team up to avoid duplication of effort?

Well, what have you got so far?

 
 Yeah, that *would* be valuable info, wouldn't it :)
 
 Heh sorry, I was going to follow up with that earlier, but ran into some
 apache/php issues. I think I got it sorted now though.
 
 Check out -> http://nod.yi.org/d/
 
 Some notes:
 * I have only tested it in the latest Firefox/Opera on Linux; hence it
 most probably won't look right in IE.
 * It's driven by php, so most links in the toc works. None of the in-page
 links work though.
 * Some pages are badly borked; notably compiler/phobos pages. Their html
 needs fixing.
 * Search doesn't work.
 
 -Nod-

I think your design is nice, but now I noticed what I think is a problem
with the original design: All the first links down the left are language
reference stuff. This should be collected into one section of the site.
Thus examples, comparisons, community (very important!) and other sections
could get more attention/profilation. In my browser, none of these other
sections are on the visible top part of the page. If I didn't scroll, I
would never know that there is more to the page than the language
reference.

Lars Ivar Igesund

J C Calvarese <jcc7 cox.net> writes:

In article <d845mv$2c7b$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Lars Ivar Igesund says...
Nod wrote:

 In article <d83pol$2220$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Trevor Parscal says...
Nod wrote:
 Hey, really nice work. I have already begun working on this though.
 Would you like to team up to avoid duplication of effort?

Well, what have you got so far?

 
 Yeah, that *would* be valuable info, wouldn't it :)
 
 Heh sorry, I was going to follow up with that earlier, but ran into some
 apache/php issues. I think I got it sorted now though.
 
 Check out -> http://nod.yi.org/d/


..
I think your design is nice, but now I noticed what I think is a problem
with the original design: All the first links down the left are language
reference stuff. This should be collected into one section of the site.

I agree, but we might need to do one thing at a time. ;)

I think he's trying to concentrate on solving the problem of the current
webpage's understated style (which I think Nod's design does nicely). If someone
can find some nice CSS that Walter will apply to the docs, that'd be a great
improvement.

Thus examples, comparisons, community (very important!) and other sections
could get more attention/profilation. In my browser, none of these other
sections are on the visible top part of the page. If I didn't scroll, I
would never know that there is more to the page than the language
reference.

Lars Ivar Igesund

I've thought the same thing. Maybe if one of us does a mock-up showing how we
can add in a lead-in page to the frames or redesign it so that the frames are
removed, we might be able to get such a change implemented. (I've been looking
into doing something like this myself, but I haven't put too much time into it
yet, and I haven't be satisfied with my results yet.)

jcc7

J C Calvarese <jcc7 cox.net> writes:

In article <d843q6$2amm$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Nod says...
In article <d83pol$2220$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Trevor Parscal says...
Nod wrote:
 Hey, really nice work. I have already begun working on this though. Would you
 like to team up to avoid duplication of effort?

Well, what have you got so far?

Yeah, that *would* be valuable info, wouldn't it :)

Heh sorry, I was going to follow up with that earlier, but ran into some
apache/php issues. I think I got it sorted now though.

Check out -> http://nod.yi.org/d/

Cool! I like it.

Some notes:
* I have only tested it in the latest Firefox/Opera on Linux; hence it most
probably won't look right in IE.

Right, I looked at it in IE and the "Test of Boxes" didn't look quite the same.
Also the "DMD D Compiler" page, didn't work right in IE either (the graphics
started overlapping some of the test). But I'm sure some .css can be developed
that works well enough in all of the major browsers.

jcc7

Nod <Nod_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <d845mv$2c7b$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Lars Ivar Igesund says...
 <snip>

I think your design is nice [...]

In article <d84ch1$2i83$1 digitaldaemon.com>, J C Calvarese says...
 <snip>

Cool! I like it.

Thanks to both of you!

And it is correct that I am trying to focus style rather than content. The
current pages actually have very clean html, so other than swapping the headers
and footers using php, all that is really added is a css file and some graphics.
The original content is almost totally unchanged. I must give Walter praise for
this; I rarely see so nice html, even if it is not entirely validated - I don't
care :)

-Nod-

Nod <Nod_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <d84ch1$2i83$1 digitaldaemon.com>, J C Calvarese says...
 <snip>

Right, I looked at it in IE and the "Test of Boxes" didn't look quite the same.
Also the "DMD D Compiler" page, didn't work right in IE either (the graphics
started overlapping some of the test). But I'm sure some .css can be developed
that works well enough in all of the major browsers.

jcc7

Yes, IE can be fixed, but it is nontrivial, so I won't spend time on it until I
know the design will actually be used.

Speaking of which, although it is not complete, some comments or suggestions
from Walter would be nice :)

-Nod-

J C Calvarese<technocrat7 gmail.com> writes:

In article <d853dv$5nh$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Nod says...
In article <d84ch1$2i83$1 digitaldaemon.com>, J C Calvarese says...
 <snip>

Right, I looked at it in IE and the "Test of Boxes" didn't look quite the same.
Also the "DMD D Compiler" page, didn't work right in IE either (the graphics
started overlapping some of the test). But I'm sure some .css can be developed
that works well enough in all of the major browsers.

jcc7

Yes, IE can be fixed, but it is nontrivial, so I won't spend time on it until I
know the design will actually be used.

It's too bad Microsoft won't get with the program with web standards.  

Speaking of which, although it is not complete, some comments or suggestions
from Walter would be nice :)

-Nod-

Yes, I'd wait for some interest from Walter, too.


jcc7

Thomas Kuehne <thomas-dloop kuehne.this-is-spam.cn> writes:

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Trevor Parscal schrieb am Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:57:33 -0700:
 So anyhoo, I have offered before, but here it is again.

 Maybe D's site could use a little bit of graphical help. I would love to 
 help out (for free of course), if Walter wants some help, otherwise, 
 it's all good, just an offer. And if my crap sucks, than there would be 
 no obligation to use it.

 Some sites I have done recently (as a consultant)

 www.house.gov/bean
 www.house.gov/costa
 www.techpaths.com

 and some for free (not professionally)
 www.clanillogic.com
 www.ey3dea.com

Nice, only nitpick: where are the image-alt tags?

Thomas


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