• A32007 (2/2) Jan 06 2021 So guys what, if any, do you dislike about GUI like Qt, Gtk+,
• Jacob Carlborg (6/8) Jan 07 2021 I dislike that they're not using the native drawing operations of the
• Guillaume Piolat (4/6) Jan 07 2021 I don't use them because I find they come with a big dynlib
• sighoya (4/7) Jan 07 2021 Isn't it possible to statically link qt applications nowadays? I
• evilrat (14/21) Jan 07 2021 Imho all this talk about native look & feel is just lame, just
• Guillaume Piolat (3/9) Jan 07 2021 +1, video games have non-native widgets
• Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= (12/21) Jan 07 2021 I think many elderly people would object to that statement. :-)
• ryuukk_ (4/4) Jan 07 2021 electron and flutter proved one thing:
• Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= (5/9) Jan 07 2021 Yeah. There is probably also some advantage in the GUI mechanisms

A32007 <business.mongol2525 gmail.com> writes:

So guys what, if any, do you dislike about GUI like Qt, Gtk+, 

Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:

On 2021-01-06 22:24, A32007 wrote:

 WinForms, etc and you would do differently with D?

I dislike that they're not using the native drawing operations of the 
operating system. That is, the applications will not have a native look 
and feel.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg

Guillaume Piolat <first.last gmail.com> writes:

On Wednesday, 6 January 2021 at 21:24:08 UTC, A32007 wrote:
 So guys what, if any, do you dislike about GUI like Qt, Gtk+, 


I don't use them because I find they come with a big dynlib 
runtime. Though in this day and age it may not be a problem at 
all.

sighoya <sighoya gmail.com> writes:

On Thursday, 7 January 2021 at 10:44:39 UTC, Guillaume Piolat 
wrote:

 I don't use them because I find they come with a big dynlib 
 runtime. Though in this day and age it may not be a problem at 
 all.

Isn't it possible to statically link qt applications nowadays? I 
don't know though if this is a good idea

evilrat <evilrat666 gmail.com> writes:

Imho all this talk about native look & feel is just lame, just 
look at professional software, it is basically the norm to have a 
custom uniform style at least across desktop platforms.
In fact I've seen many times on the internets how much users are 
grateful to devs when it suddenly happens to work on 
another(replacement) machine with unfamiliar OS installed.

Also, compare "default" OS styles(is there actually single 
default on Windows now? What about linux? No, don't tell me about 
GTK) for example MS paint or notepad and Mac Finder. (They all 
looks to me like if they've come from prehistoric times)



On Thursday, 7 January 2021 at 11:28:57 UTC, sighoya wrote:
 On Thursday, 7 January 2021 at 10:44:39 UTC, Guillaume Piolat 
 wrote:

 I don't use them because I find they come with a big dynlib 
 runtime. Though in this day and age it may not be a problem at 
 all.

 Isn't it possible to statically link qt applications nowadays? 
 I don't know though if this is a good idea

It was for 10+ years, just makes your code GPL infected. And IIRC 
since that moment when Nokia sold Qt there was is even more 
licensing restrictions added.

Guillaume Piolat <first.last gmail.com> writes:

On Thursday, 7 January 2021 at 12:13:47 UTC, evilrat wrote:
 Imho all this talk about native look & feel is just lame, just 
 look at professional software, it is basically the norm to have 
 a custom uniform style at least across desktop platforms.
 In fact I've seen many times on the internets how much users 
 are grateful to devs when it suddenly happens to work on 
 another(replacement) machine with unfamiliar OS installed.

+1, video games have non-native widgets
Nobody would say they are not user friendly

Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= <ola.fosheim.grostad gmail.com> writes:

On Thursday, 7 January 2021 at 13:22:28 UTC, Guillaume Piolat 
wrote:
 On Thursday, 7 January 2021 at 12:13:47 UTC, evilrat wrote:
 Imho all this talk about native look & feel is just lame, just 
 look at professional software, it is basically the norm to 
 have a custom uniform style at least across desktop platforms.
 In fact I've seen many times on the internets how much users 
 are grateful to devs when it suddenly happens to work on 
 another(replacement) machine with unfamiliar OS installed.

 +1, video games have non-native widgets
 Nobody would say they are not user friendly

I think many elderly people would object to that statement. :-)

Games are different though. They are basically designed in the 
opposite direction: what kind of fancy interface can we have, ok, 
let's fill this cool interface with content...

Whereas a productivity application is more like, we have all this 
content that we need to access, how can we make it available in a 
way that works for people with many levels of digital competence 
and in a way that allows us to continually add to it?

Anyhow, most users are more familiar with web content than native 
apps these days... Maybe Google Material is the best option.

ryuukk_ <ryuukk_ gmail.com> writes:

electron and flutter proved one thing:

people don't mind non-native UIs, they want great UX and great 
styling, consistency across services, not across the whole OS, 
specially when the OS has ugly UI (windows 10 for example)

Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQ=?= <ola.fosheim.grostad gmail.com> writes:

On Thursday, 7 January 2021 at 20:43:34 UTC, ryuukk_ wrote:
 electron and flutter proved one thing:

 people don't mind non-native UIs, they want great UX and great 
 styling, consistency across services, not across the whole OS, 
 specially when the OS has ugly UI (windows 10 for example)

Yeah. There is probably also some advantage in the GUI mechanisms 
in browsers being somewhat limited so that learning using web 
apps does not get overly complicate. Some native GUIs actually 
have more of a learning curve... in comparison.