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reply Richard (Rikki) Andrew Cattermole <richard cattermole.co.nz> writes:
Hello!

In my interest towards memory safety, and with a variety of views 
on the topic in the community, I think now is a good time to do a 
survey to find out where everyone is placed.

So if you are interested in escape analysis, temporal, or just 
plain old type state analysis for nullability please fill it out!

[link](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdynYsQoq_TAkLZH952S3J4sPBrcFwUabSLKq-w2PT-nd4iuw/viewform)
Sep 17
next sibling parent reply Dukc <ajieskola gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 17 September 2024 at 08:05:47 UTC, Richard (Rikki) 
Andrew Cattermole wrote:

 Hello!

 In my interest towards memory safety, and with a variety of 
 views on the topic in the community, I think now is a good time 
 to do a survey to find out where everyone is placed.

 So if you are interested in escape analysis, temporal, or just 
 plain old type state analysis for nullability please fill it 
 out!

 [link](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdynYsQoq_TAkLZH952S3J4sPBrcFwUabSLKq-w2PT-nd4iuw/viewform)


Any chance of seeing the results? The site did show me the 
results up to that point when I answered, but there doesn't seem 
to be a way to re-ead them without reposting another answer.
Sep 25
next sibling parent "Richard (Rikki) Andrew Cattermole" <richard cattermole.co.nz> writes:
On 26/09/2024 5:04 AM, Dukc wrote:

 On Tuesday, 17 September 2024 at 08:05:47 UTC, Richard (Rikki) Andrew 
 Cattermole wrote:

 Hello!

 In my interest towards memory safety, and with a variety of views on 
 the topic in the community, I think now is a good time to do a survey 
 to find out where everyone is placed.

 So if you are interested in escape analysis, temporal, or just plain 
 old type state analysis for nullability please fill it out!

 [link](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdynYsQoq_TAkLZH952S3J4sPBrcFwUabSLKq-w2PT-nd4iuw/viewform)


 
 Any chance of seeing the results? The site did show me the results up to 
 that point when I answered, but there doesn't seem to be a way to re-ead 
 them without reposting another answer.


I'm not aware of how to do that, especially since I disabled the storing 
of emails.

It is currently up to 43 responses, and over all not much has changed 
for a good 20 responses.

I'll do a report here once I've presented it at a DLF monthly meeting. 
But that might not be until November.
Sep 25
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Juraj <zero vec4.xyz> writes:
On Wednesday, 25 September 2024 at 17:04:42 UTC, Dukc wrote:

 On Tuesday, 17 September 2024 at 08:05:47 UTC, Richard (Rikki) 
 Andrew Cattermole wrote:

 Hello!

 In my interest towards memory safety, and with a variety of 
 views on the topic in the community, I think now is a good 
 time to do a survey to find out where everyone is placed.

 So if you are interested in escape analysis, temporal, or just 
 plain old type state analysis for nullability please fill it 
 out!

 [link](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdynYsQoq_TAkLZH952S3J4sPBrcFwUabSLKq-w2PT-nd4iuw/viewform)


 Any chance of seeing the results? The site did show me the 
 results up to that point when I answered, but there doesn't 
 seem to be a way to re-ead them without reposting another 
 answer.


Replace viewform with viewanalytics in the url.
[results](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdynYsQoq_TAkLZH952S3J4sPBrcFwUabSLKq-w2PT-nd4iuw/viewanalytics)

Juraj
Sep 25
parent Dukc <ajieskola gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 25 September 2024 at 17:31:56 UTC, Juraj wrote:

 Replace viewform with viewanalytics in the url.
 [results](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdynYsQoq_TAkLZH952S3J4sPBrcFwUabSLKq-w2PT-nd4iuw/viewanalytics)

 Juraj


Thanks!
Sep 25
prev sibling parent reply Salih Dincer <salihdb hotmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 25 September 2024 at 17:04:42 UTC, Dukc wrote:

 On Tuesday, 17 September 2024 at 08:05:47 UTC, Richard (Rikki) 
 Andrew Cattermole wrote:

 Hello!

 In my interest towards memory safety, and with a variety of 
 views on the topic in the community, I think now is a good 
 time to do a survey to find out where everyone is placed.

 So if you are interested in escape analysis, temporal, or just 
 plain old type state analysis for nullability please fill it 
 out!

 [link](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdynYsQoq_TAkLZH952S3J4sPBrcFwUabSLKq-w2PT-nd4iuw/viewform)


 Any chance of seeing the results? The site did show me the 
 results up to that point when I answered, but there doesn't 
 seem to be a way to re-ead them without reposting another 
 answer.


So far, 60 people, including me, have filled out the survey and 
you are among the respondents, you can track the results with the 
`viewanalytics?pli=1&pli=1` parameter

Here is the link:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdynYsQoq_TAkLZH952S3J4sPBrcFwUabSLKq-w2PT-nd4iuw/viewanalytics?pli=1&pli=1

SDB 79
Nov 06
parent Bradley Chatha <sealabjaster gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 6 November 2024 at 17:31:48 UTC, Salih Dincer wrote:

 https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdynYsQoq_TAkLZH952S3J4sPBrcFwUabSLKq-w2PT-nd4iuw/viewanalytics?pli=1&pli=1

 SDB 79


There's something depressing yet oddly liberating on seeing such 
a response on something that has been in progress for so many 
years now - time that could've been spent on other work perhaps.

Would be interesting to see what impact, if any, this has on the 
future efforts towards these safety features by those trying to 
drive them forward.

Maybe in another 7 years we'll be even slightly comparable to 
current-day Rust in terms of perception and discussion around 
memory safety, while they will have continued to solidify their 
positions in a niche that's only going to get harder to break 
into.
Nov 06
prev sibling next sibling parent "Richard (Rikki) Andrew Cattermole" <richard cattermole.co.nz> writes:
Reminder this is closing in a few days.

If you haven't already please fill it out, even if you are not 
interested in memory safety that is useful information for us to have!
Nov 05
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Kagamin <spam here.lot> writes:
Given the opt-in nature of the memory safety features, do you 
feel like the D community and therefore the language are going 
in the right direction?


It's not obvious where the language is going and you didn't 
assert what you assume.
Nov 05
parent monkyyy <crazymonkyyy gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 6 November 2024 at 07:29:27 UTC, Kagamin wrote:

Given the opt-in nature of the memory safety features, do you 
feel like the D community and therefore the language are going 
in the right direction?


 It's not obvious where the language is going and you didn't 
 assert what you assume.


It may not be obvious if the language is stalled or actively 
getting worse; but I think its fair to say that on a hyperbolic 
plane, they are not making progress.
Nov 06
prev sibling next sibling parent Kagamin <spam here.lot> writes:
Apparently you also assume -preview=nosharedaccess and 
-preview=in are ` safe` features, but in fact they are ` system`.
Nov 05
prev sibling parent "Richard (Rikki) Andrew Cattermole" <richard cattermole.co.nz> writes:
I have begun writing the report for tomorrows monthly meeting (~5 hours 
away).

It will be published in a new thread afterwards.

Survey is now closed.
Nov 08