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digitalmars.D - Steve Yegge on D

reply "Joakim" <dlang joakim.airpost.net> writes:
I was reading Brad Roberts' bio before his upcoming talk today, 
where he mentioned that he first heard of D because of blog posts 
by Steve Yegge, when I remembered that it was likely one of Steve 
Yegge's posts almost a decade ago that first brought D to my 
attention, like this one:

"C++ does need to get replaced someday. It's just horrid, and 
everyone knows it. However, there aren't very many people trying 
to replace it, either. The only contenders I'm aware of are 
Objective C and the D Programming Language.

D's a really beautiful language. By rights it should be the next 
C++. However, C++ programmers won't have it because it's garbage 
collected (even though it can be disabled, and even though 
Stroustroup himself is now advocating adding garbage collection 
to C++). Walter Bright is one hell of a lot smarter than the C++ 
programmers who won't look at his language, and he has 
demonstrated that D is as fast as or faster than C++ and nearly 
as expressive as Ruby or Python. It's a secret weapon just 
waiting to be seized by some smart company or open-source project.

But nobody ever accuses programmers of being wise."
http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2007/02/next-big-language.html

I wonder, how many others first heard of D through Steve's posts, 
which were pretty popular back then?
May 22 2014
parent reply "Mengu" <mengukagan gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 22 May 2014 at 09:52:20 UTC, Joakim wrote:
 I was reading Brad Roberts' bio before his upcoming talk today, 
 where he mentioned that he first heard of D because of blog 
 posts by Steve Yegge, when I remembered that it was likely one 
 of Steve Yegge's posts almost a decade ago that first brought D 
 to my attention, like this one:

 "C++ does need to get replaced someday. It's just horrid, and 
 everyone knows it. However, there aren't very many people 
 trying to replace it, either. The only contenders I'm aware of 
 are Objective C and the D Programming Language.

 D's a really beautiful language. By rights it should be the 
 next C++. However, C++ programmers won't have it because it's 
 garbage collected (even though it can be disabled, and even 
 though Stroustroup himself is now advocating adding garbage 
 collection to C++). Walter Bright is one hell of a lot smarter 
 than the C++ programmers who won't look at his language, and he 
 has demonstrated that D is as fast as or faster than C++ and 
 nearly as expressive as Ruby or Python. It's a secret weapon 
 just waiting to be seized by some smart company or open-source 
 project.

 But nobody ever accuses programmers of being wise."
 http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2007/02/next-big-language.html

 I wonder, how many others first heard of D through Steve's 
 posts, which were pretty popular back then?
i and almost all of turkish d users / wannabes did learn about d through ali's initiative on a -back then- very popular turkish programming forum. this was way before he started working on his book. :) yet, i did encounter steve's post was through HN much much later. it was 2009 or 2010 i guess.
May 22 2014
parent "Chris" <wendlec tcd.ie> writes:
On Friday, 23 May 2014 at 05:31:48 UTC, Mengu wrote:
 On Thursday, 22 May 2014 at 09:52:20 UTC, Joakim wrote:
 I was reading Brad Roberts' bio before his upcoming talk 
 today, where he mentioned that he first heard of D because of 
 blog posts by Steve Yegge, when I remembered that it was 
 likely one of Steve Yegge's posts almost a decade ago that 
 first brought D to my attention, like this one:

 "C++ does need to get replaced someday. It's just horrid, and 
 everyone knows it. However, there aren't very many people 
 trying to replace it, either. The only contenders I'm aware of 
 are Objective C and the D Programming Language.

 D's a really beautiful language. By rights it should be the 
 next C++. However, C++ programmers won't have it because it's 
 garbage collected (even though it can be disabled, and even 
 though Stroustroup himself is now advocating adding garbage 
 collection to C++). Walter Bright is one hell of a lot smarter 
 than the C++ programmers who won't look at his language, and 
 he has demonstrated that D is as fast as or faster than C++ 
 and nearly as expressive as Ruby or Python. It's a secret 
 weapon just waiting to be seized by some smart company or 
 open-source project.

 But nobody ever accuses programmers of being wise."
 http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2007/02/next-big-language.html

 I wonder, how many others first heard of D through Steve's 
 posts, which were pretty popular back then?
i and almost all of turkish d users / wannabes did learn about d through ali's initiative on a -back then- very popular turkish programming forum. this was way before he started working on his book. :) yet, i did encounter steve's post was through HN much much later. it was 2009 or 2010 i guess.
I discovered D by reading in a Linux magazine that Fedora XYZ was shipping with the dmd compiler. And I agree with this comment "But nobody ever accuses programmers of being wise." Programming is like everything else. People are used to some shit they don't even like, but they're not willing to change it, and they even find excuses for the shit they hate as soon as someone wants to change it. The reason: they're used to it. Change is bad, change means learning new things, giving up old patterns, old habits, admitting that one was ... err .... wrong.
May 23 2014