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digitalmars.D - Should we distribute a Dutmite binary in the zipped package?

reply Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> writes:
It's a pretty useful tool after all (and it's strange how many people
don't even know it exists, judging from IRC conversations). It's
already in the tools repo.

The issue is filed as:
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=10332
Oct 20 2013
next sibling parent reply "Wyatt" <wyatt.epp gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 20 October 2013 at 12:16:14 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
 ...it's strange how many people don't even know it exists...
No it isn't. Look a this page: http://dlang.org/download.html Now, look at all the pages under "Compilers & Tools" here: http://wiki.dlang.org/The_D_Programming_Language How do you expect people to find out about tools if they're not even so much as mentioned in the places you'd go to find tools? People don't know about things that aren't documented. Full stop. -Wyatt
Oct 21 2013
parent reply Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> writes:
On 10/21/13, Wyatt <wyatt.epp gmail.com> wrote:
 On Sunday, 20 October 2013 at 12:16:14 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
 ...it's strange how many people don't even know it exists...
No it isn't.
What isn't? I'm just reporting on user experience here.
 Look a this page:
 http://dlang.org/download.html
Right, it would have to be added there as well.
 Now, look at all the pages under "Compilers & Tools" here:
 http://wiki.dlang.org/The_D_Programming_Language
It's listed here: http://wiki.dlang.org/Community:Open_Source_Projects
 People don't know about things that aren't documented.  Full stop.
Not really a full stop, Dustmite has been incorporated into our tools repository (https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/tools), which is also the home of RDMD. Adding it to the zip, linking it on the website, and mentioning it in the changelog could give a boost to its usage, and it really is a super-useful tool for reducing regressions. There were over 97 regressions fixed in the latest release.
Oct 21 2013
next sibling parent reply "John Colvin" <john.loughran.colvin gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 21 October 2013 at 08:17:49 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
 On 10/21/13, Wyatt <wyatt.epp gmail.com> wrote:
 On Sunday, 20 October 2013 at 12:16:14 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic 
 wrote:
 ...it's strange how many people don't even know it exists...
No it isn't.
What isn't? I'm just reporting on user experience here.
I think he meant it isn't strange.
Oct 21 2013
parent Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> writes:
On 10/21/13, John Colvin <john.loughran.colvin gmail.com> wrote:
 I think he meant it isn't strange.
Ah. Well maybe the more proper word is "unfortunate". :)
Oct 21 2013
prev sibling parent "Wyatt" <wyatt.epp gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 21 October 2013 at 08:17:49 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
 On 10/21/13, Wyatt <wyatt.epp gmail.com> wrote:
 On Sunday, 20 October 2013 at 12:16:14 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic 
 wrote:
 ...it's strange how many people don't even know it exists...
No it isn't.
What isn't? I'm just reporting on user experience here.
John Colvin got it, but I'll confirm: It's not at all strange or unusual that an undocumented tool isn't well-known. It doesn't matter that it's in the tools repository or tucked away on some non-obvious page of the wiki. If people don't see it in the first two places we expect them to look, then it may as well not exist to a lot of them. I agree it should be added to the release tarball, but even that won't necessarily improve its visibility. How often do you look for new things with strange names added to /usr/bin alongside the binaries you're actually using? So I'll go a little further: not only should it be on the tooling-related pages, it should also be mentioned and linked in any place where we talk about reporting bugs, including the homepage of the bug tracker. -Wyatt
Oct 21 2013
prev sibling next sibling parent "inout" <inout gmail.com> writes:
On Sunday, 20 October 2013 at 12:16:14 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
 It's a pretty useful tool after all (and it's strange how many 
 people
 don't even know it exists, judging from IRC conversations). It's
 already in the tools repo.

 The issue is filed as:
 http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=10332
I'm using D for many years, and this is the first time I'm hearing about this tool.
Oct 21 2013
prev sibling parent Martin Nowak <code dawg.eu> writes:
On 10/20/2013 02:16 PM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
 It's a pretty useful tool after all (and it's strange how many people
 don't even know it exists, judging from IRC conversations). It's
 already in the tools repo.
I don't like the idea to ship even more binaries in a release contending for the constrained resources we have. Put a "How to report a bug" link on the main page that links to the wiki and improve DustMite's documentation. http://wiki.dlang.org https://github.com/CyberShadow/DustMite/wiki
Oct 21 2013