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reply Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> writes:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1x66zv/the_rust_repository_closed_the_second_most_number/

This made me wonder what the D stats are? Obviously we don't use
github's bug tracker, but I think we still close a lot of issues as
FIXED. Can anyone show some D stats?
Feb 06 2014
next sibling parent reply "Namespace" <rswhite4 googlemail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 21:14:21 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic 
wrote:

 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1x66zv/the_rust_repository_closed_the_second_most_number/

 This made me wonder what the D stats are? Obviously we don't use
 github's bug tracker, but I think we still close a lot of 
 issues as
 FIXED. Can anyone show some D stats?


http://dlang.org/bugstats.php
Feb 06 2014
parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 2/6/14, 1:16 PM, Namespace wrote:

 On Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 21:14:21 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1x66zv/the_rust_repository_closed_the_second_most_number/


 This made me wonder what the D stats are? Obviously we don't use
 github's bug tracker, but I think we still close a lot of issues as
 FIXED. Can anyone show some D stats?


 http://dlang.org/bugstats.php


... which is not working properly at the moment. It's PHP code, does 
anyone have the time to mess with it? I recall Brad Roberts mentioned 
the problem to me at some point.

Andrei
Feb 06 2014
parent reply "Brad Anderson" <eco gnuk.net> writes:
On Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 21:19:10 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 On 2/6/14, 1:16 PM, Namespace wrote:

 On Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 21:14:21 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic 
 wrote:

 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1x66zv/the_rust_repository_closed_the_second_most_number/


 This made me wonder what the D stats are? Obviously we don't 
 use
 github's bug tracker, but I think we still close a lot of 
 issues as
 FIXED. Can anyone show some D stats?


 http://dlang.org/bugstats.php


 ... which is not working properly at the moment. It's PHP code, 
 does anyone have the time to mess with it? I recall Brad 
 Roberts mentioned the problem to me at some point.

 Andrei


The problem was that the links were switched to use HTTPS but 
dlang.org's php installation does not support https.  I tried to 
provide some guidance for someone that I thought make a pull 
request to fix it but I guess they never got around to it.[1]

I'll make a quick pull request in a moment.

1. 
http://forum.dlang.org/post/ohdqneewjzjdeijmkacu forum.dlang.org
Feb 06 2014
parent "Brad Anderson" <eco gnuk.net> writes:
On Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 21:54:59 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:

 I'll make a quick pull request in a moment.


https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/491
Feb 06 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 2/6/14, 1:13 PM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1x66zv/the_rust_repository_closed_the_second_most_number/

 This made me wonder what the D stats are? Obviously we don't use
 github's bug tracker, but I think we still close a lot of issues as
 FIXED. Can anyone show some D stats?


One issue we can't quite brag about is the glacial pace of reviewing and 
accepting already proposed contributions.

Andrei
Feb 06 2014
next sibling parent "Paul Freund" <freund.paul lvl3.org> writes:
On Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 21:19:49 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

 On 2/6/14, 1:13 PM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1x66zv/the_rust_repository_closed_the_second_most_number/

 This made me wonder what the D stats are? Obviously we don't 
 use
 github's bug tracker, but I think we still close a lot of 
 issues as
 FIXED. Can anyone show some D stats?


 One issue we can't quite brag about is the glacial pace of 
 reviewing and accepting already proposed contributions.

 Andrei


One thing I observed is that our bugtracker and "idea collection" 
in the wiki is not very clear. For example I always search for a 
list of all open issues at https://d.puremagic.com/issues/ (I now 
know there is a link on http://dlang.org/bugstats.php) and it 
took me ages to find the DIP page in the wiki.).

I think an alternative issue/idea tracker in the style of the 
github issues would be a useful improvement. Mabye even github 
issues if a hosted solution is an alternative.
Feb 06 2014
prev sibling parent reply Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> writes:
On 2/6/14, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:

 One issue we can't quite brag about is the glacial pace of reviewing and
 accepting already proposed contributions.


There are some pull requests which are explicitly waiting for an
approval or feedback by you and/or Walter. Even though people have
tried notifying you both I'm pretty sure your notification pages are
likely huge, so it's hard to find out what notifications are a
priority (the notifications tend to be big enough for me and I even
have free time on my hands!).

I've thought about compiling a list of these pulls which are blocked
and posting to the NG (with a quick summary for each pull) so both of
you can have a quick look when you gather some free time.

Does that sound good to you?
Feb 07 2014
parent reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 2/7/2014 1:09 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

 On 2/6/14, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:

 One issue we can't quite brag about is the glacial pace of reviewing and
 accepting already proposed contributions.


 There are some pull requests which are explicitly waiting for an
 approval or feedback by you and/or Walter. Even though people have
 tried notifying you both I'm pretty sure your notification pages are
 likely huge, so it's hard to find out what notifications are a
 priority (the notifications tend to be big enough for me and I even
 have free time on my hands!).

 I've thought about compiling a list of these pulls which are blocked
 and posting to the NG (with a quick summary for each pull) so both of
 you can have a quick look when you gather some free time.

 Does that sound good to you?


Don't be reticent about pinging us for stuff that's important.
Feb 07 2014
next sibling parent Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich gmail.com> writes:
On 2/7/14, Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> wrote:

 Don't be reticent about pinging us for stuff that's important.


People have been pinging you two for months with close to no effect.
Feb 07 2014
prev sibling parent "Daniel Murphy" <yebbliesnospam gmail.com> writes:
"Walter Bright"  wrote in message news:ld29l6$1ceu$2 digitalmars.com... 


 Don't be reticent about pinging us for stuff that's important.


I need a response on this:

https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/3208
Feb 07 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Brad Anderson" <eco gnuk.net> writes:
On Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 21:14:21 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic 
wrote:

 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1x66zv/the_rust_repository_closed_the_second_most_number/

 This made me wonder what the D stats are? Obviously we don't use
 github's bug tracker, but I think we still close a lot of 
 issues as
 FIXED. Can anyone show some D stats?


I think this covers it:

https://d.puremagic.com/issues/buglist.cgi?chfieldto=2013-12-31&query_format=advanced&chfield=resolution&chfieldfrom=2013-01-01&chfieldvalue=FIXED&bug_status=RESOLVED&resolution=FIXED

"1356 issues found"

I'm not sure how Github counts "issues closed" because I believe 
they treat pull requests as issues too so the number could be 
double what it should probably be (I could be mistaken on that).

Either way, it's impressive work by the Rust team.
Feb 06 2014
parent "Dicebot" <public dicebot.lv> writes:
On Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 21:50:40 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:

 I'm not sure how Github counts "issues closed" because I 
 believe they treat pull requests as issues too so the number 
 could be double what it should probably be (I could be mistaken 
 on that).


Likely. In GitHub semantics "pull request" == "issue with 
attached code".
Feb 06 2014
prev sibling parent reply "Meta" <jared771 gmail.com> writes:
On Thursday, 6 February 2014 at 21:14:21 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic 
wrote:

 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1x66zv/the_rust_repository_closed_the_second_most_number/

 This made me wonder what the D stats are? Obviously we don't use
 github's bug tracker, but I think we still close a lot of 
 issues as
 FIXED. Can anyone show some D stats?


Seeing as Rust is more or less a direct competitor to D, this is 
somewhat worrying. This suggests that the Rust devs (by that I 
mean people in the community that submit pulls) are able to 
iterate far faster than we are, and the gap between D and Rust is 
quickly closing.
Feb 07 2014
parent reply "Dicebot" <public dicebot.lv> writes:
On Friday, 7 February 2014 at 14:26:34 UTC, Meta wrote:

 Seeing as Rust is more or less a direct competitor to D, this 
 is somewhat worrying. This suggests that the Rust devs (by that 
 I mean people in the community that submit pulls) are able to 
 iterate far faster than we are, and the gap between D and Rust 
 is quickly closing.


https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd - "77 contributors"
https://github.com/mozilla/rust - "392 contributors"

I am not surprised.

Also AFAIK Mozlla has a team of paid full-time programmers 
working on it, something D can only dream about.
Feb 07 2014
parent "Meta" <jared771 gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 7 February 2014 at 14:38:54 UTC, Dicebot wrote:

 On Friday, 7 February 2014 at 14:26:34 UTC, Meta wrote:

 Seeing as Rust is more or less a direct competitor to D, this 
 is somewhat worrying. This suggests that the Rust devs (by 
 that I mean people in the community that submit pulls) are 
 able to iterate far faster than we are, and the gap between D 
 and Rust is quickly closing.


 https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd - "77 
 contributors"
 https://github.com/mozilla/rust - "392 contributors"

 I am not surprised.

 Also AFAIK Mozlla has a team of paid full-time programmers 
 working on it, something D can only dream about.


Yes, it's not due to lack of talent in the D community, just 
numbers. This is why it is so worrying.
Feb 07 2014