• Vladimir Panteleev (9/9) Mar 10 2014 From time to time, there are discussions concerning ideas which
• Dicebot (8/17) Mar 10 2014 I remember someone already creating such page but can't remember
• John Colvin (4/23) Mar 10 2014 Keeping track of the ideas is still worthwhile though, if only to
• Chris Williams (12/21) Mar 10 2014 I imagine that someone else could write it better than I, but
• Marco Leise (7/18) Mar 17 2014 Maybe give it a more positive name for people that find the

"Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:

 From time to time, there are discussions concerning ideas which 
would impact the language, as it is now, too drastically to be 
implemented (it would break too much code or require a 
significant reengineering effort). These discussions get lost, 
which is regrettable since some of the discussions sometimes 
produce genuinely great ideas.

Although there is no D3 on the horizon, I think it would be nice 
to keep track of these ideas anyway.

http://wiki.dlang.org/Language_issues

"Dicebot" <public dicebot.lv> writes:

On Monday, 10 March 2014 at 14:50:27 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:
 From time to time, there are discussions concerning ideas which 
 would impact the language, as it is now, too drastically to be 
 implemented (it would break too much code or require a 
 significant reengineering effort). These discussions get lost, 
 which is regrettable since some of the discussions sometimes 
 produce genuinely great ideas.

 Although there is no D3 on the horizon, I think it would be 
 nice to keep track of these ideas anyway.

 http://wiki.dlang.org/Language_issues

I remember someone already creating such page but can't remember 
the title :(
Main problem with it is that with D3 not being a realistic option 
there is not much motivation into maintaining it. Some ideas are 
great but by time those may become demanded collective conscious 
is likely to produce even greater ideas :)

"John Colvin" <john.loughran.colvin gmail.com> writes:

On Monday, 10 March 2014 at 15:16:13 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
 On Monday, 10 March 2014 at 14:50:27 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
 wrote:
 From time to time, there are discussions concerning ideas 
 which would impact the language, as it is now, too drastically 
 to be implemented (it would break too much code or require a 
 significant reengineering effort). These discussions get lost, 
 which is regrettable since some of the discussions sometimes 
 produce genuinely great ideas.

 Although there is no D3 on the horizon, I think it would be 
 nice to keep track of these ideas anyway.

 http://wiki.dlang.org/Language_issues

 I remember someone already creating such page but can't 
 remember the title :(
 Main problem with it is that with D3 not being a realistic 
 option there is not much motivation into maintaining it. Some 
 ideas are great but by time those may become demanded 
 collective conscious is likely to produce even greater ideas :)

Keeping track of the ideas is still worthwhile though, if only to 
bring people up to speed who haven't been part of the whole 
conversation.

"Chris Williams" <yoreanon-chrisw yahoo.co.jp> writes:

On Monday, 10 March 2014 at 14:50:27 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:
 From time to time, there are discussions concerning ideas which 
 would impact the language, as it is now, too drastically to be 
 implemented (it would break too much code or require a 
 significant reengineering effort). These discussions get lost, 
 which is regrettable since some of the discussions sometimes 
 produce genuinely great ideas.

 Although there is no D3 on the horizon, I think it would be 
 nice to keep track of these ideas anyway.

 http://wiki.dlang.org/Language_issues

I imagine that someone else could write it better than I, but 
having to explicitly break out of safe, pure, nothrow, etc. 
should be the default, rather than the reverse.

Of course, no option has to be language breaking. If two 
alternate implementations are incompatible, you can add a 
version/feature flag to the compiler and deprecate the older 
versions over time. Releasing a new version of the compiler which 
breaks everything ever made is bad, but if people have 12 months 
and a working compiler for both versions, moving over to the new 
expectations isn't unreasonable.

Marco Leise <Marco.Leise gmx.de> writes:

Am Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:50:26 +0000
schrieb "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net>:

  From time to time, there are discussions concerning ideas which 
 would impact the language, as it is now, too drastically to be 
 implemented (it would break too much code or require a 
 significant reengineering effort). These discussions get lost, 
 which is regrettable since some of the discussions sometimes 
 produce genuinely great ideas.
 
 Although there is no D3 on the horizon, I think it would be nice 
 to keep track of these ideas anyway.
 
 http://wiki.dlang.org/Language_issues

Maybe give it a more positive name for people that find the
Wiki from a web search and don't know the context.
"Future ideas" or "Language challenges"?

-- 
Marco