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reply "ponce" <contact gam3sfrommars.fr> writes:
I feel like we need a NG thread for D users to come and ask for 
new libraries/bindings.

Express your needs! Here are mines.

1. A windowing library to replace some of SDL usage. Some 
programs like audio plugins are usually done without any 
dependent dynamic library. It could also make one less dependency 
on many small programs. I would expect it to be based on 
Win32/X11/Cocoa.

2. A binary serialization library that support versions of data 
schemes. Would allow to load previous versions of data when the 
scheme has changed and fields have been added/removed.
Oct 22 2014
next sibling parent reply Rikki Cattermole <alphaglosined gmail.com> writes:
On 22/10/2014 9:13 p.m., ponce wrote:

 I feel like we need a NG thread for D users to come and ask for new
 libraries/bindings.

 Express your needs! Here are mines.

 1. A windowing library to replace some of SDL usage. Some programs like
 audio plugins are usually done without any dependent dynamic library. It
 could also make one less dependency on many small programs. I would
 expect it to be based on Win32/X11/Cocoa.


I'm playing round (on and off) with DWC [0]. Think e.g. GLFW but only 
for window / opengl context creation with a feature set identical on all 
platforms.

If anybody has an example of custom event loop for Cocoa that runs only 
one iteration (so I can control per iteration for a frame) please let me 
know.

Now to expand on what I would like:
1. Media libraries such as png/tiff/jpeg abstracted out into image which 
would be our go to image library. With conversion support.
Including for 3d models, video files.
This could be AMAZING for D to have everything integrated for these 
libs. Supporting mapping an image to a 3d model that is both freely 
editable in code is just *drools*.
2. Wrappers around opengl functions so e.g. taking arrays instead of 
pointers and lengths.
I have already got a bit of code on this with DOOGLE.


[0] https://github.com/rikkimax/DWC
Oct 22 2014
parent reply "ponce" <contact gam3sfrommars.fr> writes:
On Wednesday, 22 October 2014 at 08:25:25 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
wrote:

 On 22/10/2014 9:13 p.m., ponce wrote:

 I feel like we need a NG thread for D users to come and ask 
 for new
 libraries/bindings.

 Express your needs! Here are mines.

 1. A windowing library to replace some of SDL usage. Some 
 programs like
 audio plugins are usually done without any dependent dynamic 
 library. It
 could also make one less dependency on many small programs. I 
 would
 expect it to be based on Win32/X11/Cocoa.


 I'm playing round (on and off) with DWC [0]. Think e.g. GLFW 
 but only for window / opengl context creation with a feature 
 set identical on all platforms.


Interesting, it looks like it could fit the bill.


 Now to expand on what I would like:
 1. Media libraries such as png/tiff/jpeg abstracted out into 
 image which would be our go to image library. With conversion 
 support.


https://github.com/callumenator/imaged has image encoders, seems 
like the most promising image library to me.


 Including for 3d models, video files.
 This could be AMAZING for D to have everything integrated for 
 these libs. Supporting mapping an image to a 3d model that is 
 both freely editable in code is just *drools*.


Abstractions for video files / images and 3D models are wildly 
different though.
Oct 22 2014
parent Rikki Cattermole <alphaglosined gmail.com> writes:
On 22/10/2014 10:07 p.m., ponce wrote:

 On Wednesday, 22 October 2014 at 08:25:25 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

 On 22/10/2014 9:13 p.m., ponce wrote:

 I feel like we need a NG thread for D users to come and ask for new
 libraries/bindings.

 Express your needs! Here are mines.

 1. A windowing library to replace some of SDL usage. Some programs like
 audio plugins are usually done without any dependent dynamic library. It
 could also make one less dependency on many small programs. I would
 expect it to be based on Win32/X11/Cocoa.


 I'm playing round (on and off) with DWC [0]. Think e.g. GLFW but only
 for window / opengl context creation with a feature set identical on
 all platforms.


 Interesting, it looks like it could fit the bill.


My original goal is to just say stuff it, we may not agree about GUI 
toolkits as a community but we should at the very least be able to agree 
on how to create a window.
One library where we can put all our focus into for this one small goal. 
But with big consequences.


 Now to expand on what I would like:
 1. Media libraries such as png/tiff/jpeg abstracted out into image
 which would be our go to image library. With conversion support.


 https://github.com/callumenator/imaged has image encoders, seems like
 the most promising image library to me.


 Including for 3d models, video files.
 This could be AMAZING for D to have everything integrated for these
 libs. Supporting mapping an image to a 3d model that is both freely
 editable in code is just *drools*.


 Abstractions for video files / images and 3D models are wildly different
 though.


Yes but I wasn't meaning one abstraction fits all. Just where it makes 
sense e.g. one for image, one for video.
Oct 22 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Adam D. Ruppe" <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 22 October 2014 at 08:13:20 UTC, ponce wrote:

 1. A windowing library to replace some of SDL usage.


My simpledisplay.d is aimed to do some of this.
https://github.com/adamdruppe/arsd

It also depends on my color.d, but none of the other files. It 
also doesn't depend on Phobos, which is nice for doing quick 
drawing stuff with smaller executables - about 200 KB hello world 
gui on Windows.

The png.d and bmp.d in there can do some interop with those file 
formats too, making an image viewer is pretty easy to do with all 
them.

Uses Win32 GDI and Xlib for the backend. The Cocoa code is 
totally unmaintained and won't work, but you can run X on Mac too.

this example from my book shows how you can do some stuff with 
it: http://arsdnet.net/dcode/book/chapter_12/09/

and open gl 1.1 stuff with it: 
http://arsdnet.net/dcode/book/chapter_12/10/

And the file minigui.d in my repo shows some basic widget 
interaction too, like creating buttons on Windows.
Oct 22 2014
parent "ponce" <contact gam3sfrommars.fr> writes:
On Wednesday, 22 October 2014 at 15:11:39 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe 
wrote:

 On Wednesday, 22 October 2014 at 08:13:20 UTC, ponce wrote:

 1. A windowing library to replace some of SDL usage.


 My simpledisplay.d is aimed to do some of this.
 https://github.com/adamdruppe/arsd

 It also depends on my color.d, but none of the other files. It 
 also doesn't depend on Phobos, which is nice for doing quick 
 drawing stuff with smaller executables - about 200 KB hello 
 world gui on Windows.


A lot of interesting things in arsd indeed but I wish it was 
separated in DUB sub-packages so that we can build upon with 
peace of mind. Automatic updates spoiled me.
Oct 22 2014
prev sibling parent reply Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:
On 2014-10-22 10:13, ponce wrote:


 2. A binary serialization library that support versions of data schemes.
 Would allow to load previous versions of data when the scheme has
 changed and fields have been added/removed.


Sounds like Protocol Buffers [1], D implementations: [2] [3].

[1] http://code.google.com/p/protobuf/
[2] http://code.dlang.org/packages/dproto
[3] https://github.com/opticron/ProtocolBuffer

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg
Oct 22 2014
parent "ponce" <contact gam3sfrommars.fr> writes:
On Wednesday, 22 October 2014 at 19:49:48 UTC, Jacob Carlborg 
wrote:

 On 2014-10-22 10:13, ponce wrote:


 2. A binary serialization library that support versions of 
 data schemes.
 Would allow to load previous versions of data when the scheme 
 has
 changed and fields have been added/removed.


 Sounds like Protocol Buffers [1], D implementations: [2] [3].

 [1] http://code.google.com/p/protobuf/
 [2] http://code.dlang.org/packages/dproto
 [3] https://github.com/opticron/ProtocolBuffer


Thanks, I didn't knew Protocol Buffers could do it.
Oct 22 2014