• qznc (3/3) Aug 10 2016 Rust changed their error message format:
• Walter Bright (3/6) Aug 10 2016 There are some good ideas there. One thing I've idly thought about is to...
• Kagamin (4/13) Aug 11 2016 It would be good enough if the compiler provided the reason for
• Seb (11/14) Aug 10 2016 Yes, please. Hard to understand/confusing error messages were
• jmh530 (5/8) Aug 10 2016 Looks pretty.
• Wyatt (7/10) Aug 11 2016 I'm pretty fond of some of the stuff Elm is doing, too. Like so:
• Walter Bright (3/5) Aug 11 2016 I agree too much verbosity can be verbal diarrhea to a regular user of t...

qznc <qznc web.de> writes:

Rust changed their error message format:

https://blog.rust-lang.org/2016/08/10/Shape-of-errors-to-come.html

Inspiration for D?

Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:

On 8/10/2016 11:28 AM, qznc wrote:
 Rust changed their error message format:

 https://blog.rust-lang.org/2016/08/10/Shape-of-errors-to-come.html

 Inspiration for D?

There are some good ideas there. One thing I've idly thought about is to
include 
a clickable link to the relevant section in the spec.

Kagamin <spam here.lot> writes:

On Wednesday, 10 August 2016 at 19:20:00 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 On 8/10/2016 11:28 AM, qznc wrote:
 Rust changed their error message format:

 https://blog.rust-lang.org/2016/08/10/Shape-of-errors-to-come.html

 Inspiration for D?

 There are some good ideas there. One thing I've idly thought 
 about is to include a clickable link to the relevant section in 
 the spec.

It would be good enough if the compiler provided the reason for 
an error in any form, currently it sounds like "can't work", see 
e.g. https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9626

Seb <seb wilzba.ch> writes:

On Wednesday, 10 August 2016 at 18:28:00 UTC, qznc wrote:
 Rust changed their error message format:

 https://blog.rust-lang.org/2016/08/10/Shape-of-errors-to-come.html

 Inspiration for D?

Yes, please. Hard to understand/confusing error messages were 
ranked among the three top things that people bother with D (the 
other things is still the license of DMD) in this recent slant 
[1].

small rant (from current discussions at Phobos): we should also 
remove all the silent assert(0) in Phobos that come without any 
error message, but the segfault.
That's a very cheap way to improve the UX.

[1] 
https://www.slant.co/topics/5984/~productivity-enhancing-well-designed-and-concise-rather-than-just-popular-or-time-tested-programming-la

jmh530 <john.michael.hall gmail.com> writes:

On Wednesday, 10 August 2016 at 18:28:00 UTC, qznc wrote:
 Rust changed their error message format:

 https://blog.rust-lang.org/2016/08/10/Shape-of-errors-to-come.html

 Inspiration for D?

Looks pretty.

I remember some discussion about cleaning up error messages when 
templates don't match. That's probably the most common 
ugly-looking message I get.

Wyatt <wyatt.epp gmail.com> writes:

On Wednesday, 10 August 2016 at 18:28:00 UTC, qznc wrote:
 Rust changed their error message format:

 https://blog.rust-lang.org/2016/08/10/Shape-of-errors-to-come.html

 Inspiration for D?

I'm pretty fond of some of the stuff Elm is doing, too.  Like so:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiuJyriXAAEiZnd.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CivQW5kUYAAi4SP.jpg:large

Some people will bitch about the verbosity, but that sort of 
thing is GREAT for people just getting into the language.

-Wyatt

Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:

On 8/11/2016 11:30 AM, Wyatt wrote:
 Some people will bitch about the verbosity, but that sort of thing is GREAT for
 people just getting into the language.

I agree too much verbosity can be verbal diarrhea to a regular user of the 
compiler, but would be helpful to a new user. I expect a switch would be
necessary.