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digitalmars.D - IDE Support for D

reply "crudbug" <crudbug gmail.com> writes:
Hi All,

I am looking for a good IDE to start learning D. Coming from a 
Java world where eclipse is the standard, I feel not having a 
good IDE support is the major issue D faces to go mainstream.

1. I tried DDT plugin ended up with frustration.
2. Mono-D : http://mono-d.alexanderbothe.com/ - Looks promising, 
I think the community has to back this project. I am not a mono 
guy but I feel this project has a lot of potential.
3. Netbeans-D : 
http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/41944/netbeans-d - Very early 
stage project.

Also, a IDE which has good web development support will be a sure 
winner. Scala also faced the same issue early in her life and 
then Typesafe guyz came to unify the scala-ide effort.

Any comments ?

-Adam
Apr 05 2012
next sibling parent "Jesse Phillips" <jessekphillips+D gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 6 April 2012 at 02:59:05 UTC, crudbug wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am looking for a good IDE to start learning D. Coming from a 
 Java world where eclipse is the standard, I feel not having a 
 good IDE support is the major issue D faces to go mainstream.


There are many efforts to bring a good IDE to do, as you have 
seen. I like Vim, but if you want an IDE, choose one, use it, 
submit bug reports/requests, promote it with a blog post about 
how to set it up. Blog about the frustrations it has brought.

There is much to be done, but it is most important that people 
contribute what they enjoy contributing.
Apr 05 2012
prev sibling parent reply "Maxim" <maxim maxim-fomin.ru> writes:
On Friday, 6 April 2012 at 02:59:05 UTC, crudbug wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am looking for a good IDE to start learning D. Coming from a 
 Java world where eclipse is the standard, I feel not having a 
 good IDE support is the major issue D faces to go mainstream.

 1. I tried DDT plugin ended up with frustration.
 2. Mono-D : http://mono-d.alexanderbothe.com/ - Looks 
 promising, I think the community has to back this project. I am 
 not a mono guy but I feel this project has a lot of potential.
 3. Netbeans-D : 
 http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/41944/netbeans-d - Very 
 early stage project.

 Also, a IDE which has good web development support will be a 
 sure winner. Scala also faced the same issue early in her life 
 and then Typesafe guyz came to unify the scala-ide effort.

 Any comments ?

 -Adam


IDE&editors support status is here:
http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?EditorSupport (it may be 
outdated).

I prefer to use Codeblocks and i guess Visual D would be good on 
Windows.
Apr 05 2012
parent reply Gour <gour atmarama.net> writes:
On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 06:20:27 +0200
"Maxim" <maxim maxim-fomin.ru> wrote:


 I prefer to use Codeblocks and i guess Visual D would be good on=20
 Windows.


Has D support for Codeblocks improved somewhat recently?

Otherwise, I'm considering to use Geany and/or buy SublimeText2.


Sincerely,
Gour


--=20
Even the intelligent are bewildered in determining what is action=20
and what is inaction. Now I shall explain to you what action is,=20
knowing which you shall be liberated from all misfortune.

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Apr 05 2012
next sibling parent reply "Bernard Helyer" <b.helyer gmail.com> writes:
Mono-D is my go to IDE. It supports completion and debugging, and 
is cross-platform.
Apr 06 2012
parent Gour <gour atmarama.net> writes:
On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 09:34:02 +0200
"Bernard Helyer" <b.helyer gmail.com> wrote:


 Mono-D is my go to IDE. It supports completion and debugging, and=20
 is cross-platform.


Yeah, it looks nice, but I've managed to stay mono-free on my machine. :-)


Sincerely,
Gour

--=20
Bewildered by the modes of material nature, the ignorant fully=20
engage themselves in material activities and become attached. But=20
the wise should not unsettle them, although these duties are inferior=20
due to the performers' lack of knowledge.

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Apr 06 2012
prev sibling parent reply "Matt Peterson" <ricochet1k gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 6 April 2012 at 06:40:02 UTC, Gour wrote:

 Otherwise, I'm considering to use Geany and/or buy SublimeText2.


I use Sublime Text 2, and it is a great editor. You can try it 
for free, there's just a nag dialog that opens occasionally.
Apr 06 2012
next sibling parent Manu <turkeyman gmail.com> writes:
On 7 April 2012 01:54, Matt Peterson <ricochet1k gmail.com> wrote:


 On Friday, 6 April 2012 at 06:40:02 UTC, Gour wrote:


 Otherwise, I'm considering to use Geany and/or buy SublimeText2.


 I use Sublime Text 2, and it is a great editor. You can try it for free,
 there's just a nag dialog that opens occasionally.


I use VisualD, and it's currently borderline. It has recently gained the
minimum useful feature set, but still has quite a few bugs. It's promising
though. Hoping there is a new release soon with a few of the critical bugs
fixed >_<

If there was a SublimeText integration, I would pay good money for it...
(actually, I would pay good money for VisualD too if it became solid)
Apr 06 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012, Manu wrote:


 I use VisualD, and it's currently borderline. It has recently gained the
 minimum useful feature set, but still has quite a few bugs. It's promising
 though. Hoping there is a new release soon with a few of the critical bugs
 fixed >_<
 
 If there was a SublimeText integration, I would pay good money for it...
 (actually, I would pay good money for VisualD too if it became solid)


up front: not picking on this email specifically, it just happened to be 
handy and represents a common problem with this community.

A large number of people are in the 'want things to be better than they 
are camp' and are looking at projects that are largely one man projects.  
I can just about guarantee that one man projects will die, it's only a 
matter of time.  If you truely want to see product-X work for you, lend 
some of your time.

It doesn't take a lot of help to greatly improve both the quality of a 
product and the liklihood that it'll survive much longer, but it does take 
some.

My 2 cents,
Brad
Apr 06 2012
parent Ary Manzana <ary esperanto.org.ar> writes:
On 4/7/12 7:15 AM, Brad Roberts wrote:

 On Sat, 7 Apr 2012, Manu wrote:


 I use VisualD, and it's currently borderline. It has recently gained the
 minimum useful feature set, but still has quite a few bugs. It's promising
 though. Hoping there is a new release soon with a few of the critical bugs
 fixed>_<

 If there was a SublimeText integration, I would pay good money for it...
 (actually, I would pay good money for VisualD too if it became solid)


 up front: not picking on this email specifically, it just happened to be
 handy and represents a common problem with this community.

 A large number of people are in the 'want things to be better than they
 are camp' and are looking at projects that are largely one man projects.
 I can just about guarantee that one man projects will die, it's only a
 matter of time.


Except, of course:

http://www.cavestory.org/
Apr 15 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Manu <turkeyman gmail.com> writes:
On 7 April 2012 02:15, Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> wrote:


 On Sat, 7 Apr 2012, Manu wrote:


 I use VisualD, and it's currently borderline. It has recently gained the
 minimum useful feature set, but still has quite a few bugs. It's


 promising

 though. Hoping there is a new release soon with a few of the critical


 bugs

 fixed >_<

 If there was a SublimeText integration, I would pay good money for it...
 (actually, I would pay good money for VisualD too if it became solid)


 up front: not picking on this email specifically, it just happened to be
 handy and represents a common problem with this community.

 A large number of people are in the 'want things to be better than they
 are camp' and are looking at projects that are largely one man projects.
 I can just about guarantee that one man projects will die, it's only a
 matter of time.  If you truely want to see product-X work for you, lend
 some of your time.

 It doesn't take a lot of help to greatly improve both the quality of a
 product and the liklihood that it'll survive much longer, but it does take
 some.

 My 2 cents,
 Brad


Fair enough I guess, but I'm a customer. I work commercially, and I'd
happily pay money for tools that work.
Sadly, I can't offer any significant amount of my own time. I already
involve myself in my own time to the extent I am able, and even there I'm
over-extending (still trying to finish up std.simd, though I'm blocked
waiting on support for vector literals)...

I tend to think for the D enterprise to largely succeed, it needs
commercial interest, and also the ability to realise and meet commercial
expectations. Otherwise it'll just be a toy for language enthusiasts.
I agree that the 1-man-team projects are a little dangerous. What if these
small projects were supported financially? How many commercial interests
are there in the community?

Could we start putting micro bounties on features and/or projects? Would
that encourage rogue implementation of high-demand features?
Apr 06 2012
parent "Jussi Jumppanen" <jussij zeusedit.com> writes:
On Friday, 6 April 2012 at 23:45:49 UTC, Manu wrote:


 Fair enough I guess, but I'm a customer. I work commercially, 
 and I'd happily pay money for tools that work.


On Windows, the Zeus editor/IDE has support for the D language:

     http://www.zeusedit.com/zforum/viewtopic.php?t=2645


 Sadly, I can't offer any significant amount of my own time


Any Zeus bug reports are more than welcome ;)

NOTE: Zeus is shareware
Apr 07 2012
prev sibling parent Kevin Cox <kevincox.ca gmail.com> writes:
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> wrote:


 It doesn't take a lot of help to greatly improve both the quality of a
 product and the liklihood that it'll survive much longer, but it does take
 some.

 My 2 cents,
 Brad


I agree and understand with what you are saying but sometimes it is useful
to draw attention to topics even when it is outside of your area of
expertise or you don't have the time.  (Athough this horse has been beat to
death.)
Apr 06 2012