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digitalmars.D - D needs to focus and better the available resources

reply "karabuta" <karabutaworld gmail.com> writes:
A lot of request are made most often about what needs to be added 
in D and what is lacking (multiple compilers, debugging tools, 
IDEs, GUI, ...). I think a lot has been done already and I 
suggest focus should be centered on making them stable. Sadly, 
some have even been abandoned after all the work that went in to 
them (no names).

Already contribution is not much, so I believe stabilizing what 
we have now will at least give us one thing that is reliable 
rather than many that are not much useful for production.

As Andrei said, people still request more features to be added to 
even C++. That game never stops.
Aug 09 2015
next sibling parent Dmitry Olshansky <dmitry.olsh gmail.com> writes:
On 09-Aug-2015 20:29, karabuta wrote:
 A lot of request are made most often about what needs to be added in D
 and what is lacking (multiple compilers, debugging tools, IDEs, GUI,
 ...). I think a lot has been done already and I suggest focus should be
 centered on making them stable. Sadly, some have even been abandoned
 after all the work that went in to them (no names).
Compiler front-end is about to freeze for a few releases accroding to: http://forum.dlang.org/thread/mohrrs$1pu7$1 digitalmars.com Library and druntime will continue development as is.
 Already contribution is not much, so I believe stabilizing what we have
 now will at least give us one thing that is reliable rather than many
 that are not much useful for production.
It happens organically as long as user base keeps growing around a useful project. The bigger the user base the harder it is introduce breaking changes and the more bugs are found in what's already there.
 As Andrei said, people still request more features to be added to even
 C++. That game never stops.
-- Dmitry Olshansky
Aug 09 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent "bachmeier" <no spam.net> writes:
On Sunday, 9 August 2015 at 17:29:08 UTC, karabuta wrote:
 A lot of request are made most often about what needs to be 
 added in D and what is lacking (multiple compilers, debugging 
 tools, IDEs, GUI, ...). I think a lot has been done already and 
 I suggest focus should be centered on making them stable. 
 Sadly, some have even been abandoned after all the work that 
 went in to them (no names).

 Already contribution is not much, so I believe stabilizing what 
 we have now will at least give us one thing that is reliable 
 rather than many that are not much useful for production.

 As Andrei said, people still request more features to be added 
 to even C++. That game never stops.
D is not like Rust or Go. There is no paid team following through on what they are told to do. It is a group of contributors working on what they wish, with Walter and Andrei having final say on new additions to the language. The best you can do is work on making something stable. Maybe others will follow you.
Aug 09 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Rikki Cattermole <alphaglosined gmail.com> writes:
On 10/08/2015 5:29 a.m., karabuta wrote:
 A lot of request are made most often about what needs to be added in D
 and what is lacking (multiple compilers, debugging tools, IDEs, GUI,
 ...). I think a lot has been done already and I suggest focus should be
 centered on making them stable. Sadly, some have even been abandoned
 after all the work that went in to them (no names).

 Already contribution is not much, so I believe stabilizing what we have
 now will at least give us one thing that is reliable rather than many
 that are not much useful for production.

 As Andrei said, people still request more features to be added to even
 C++. That game never stops.
I have two separate plans right now for how to grow D. The first related to GUI's and game development is going very well. Although it'll take atleast another year before you should see anything interesting in Phobos. The second is all about web development, should see some pretty cool stuff this year. Especially if you watch my live stream! No seriously, you'll see it literally in about 6-7 hours time! (I stream twice weekly) https://www.livecoding.tv/alphaglosined/
Aug 09 2015
parent reply "karabuta" <karabutaworld gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 10 August 2015 at 04:07:05 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
 On 10/08/2015 5:29 a.m., karabuta wrote:
 [...]
I have two separate plans right now for how to grow D. The first related to GUI's and game development is going very well. Although it'll take atleast another year before you should see anything interesting in Phobos. The second is all about web development, should see some pretty cool stuff this year. Especially if you watch my live stream! No seriously, you'll see it literally in about 6-7 hours time! (I stream twice weekly) https://www.livecoding.tv/alphaglosined/
I really like your projects. Very nice.
Aug 10 2015
parent Rikki Cattermole <alphaglosined gmail.com> writes:
On 11/08/2015 4:20 a.m., karabuta wrote:
 On Monday, 10 August 2015 at 04:07:05 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
 On 10/08/2015 5:29 a.m., karabuta wrote:
 [...]
I have two separate plans right now for how to grow D. The first related to GUI's and game development is going very well. Although it'll take atleast another year before you should see anything interesting in Phobos. The second is all about web development, should see some pretty cool stuff this year. Especially if you watch my live stream! No seriously, you'll see it literally in about 6-7 hours time! (I stream twice weekly) https://www.livecoding.tv/alphaglosined/
I really like your projects. Very nice.
Thank you. It means a lot!
Aug 10 2015
prev sibling parent reply "tcak" <1ltkrs+3wyh1ow7kzn1k sharklasers.com> writes:
On Sunday, 9 August 2015 at 17:29:08 UTC, karabuta wrote:
 A lot of request are made most often about what needs to be 
 added in D and what is lacking (multiple compilers, debugging 
 tools, IDEs, GUI, ...). I think a lot has been done already and 
 I suggest focus should be centered on making them stable. 
 Sadly, some have even been abandoned after all the work that 
 went in to them (no names).

 Already contribution is not much, so I believe stabilizing what 
 we have now will at least give us one thing that is reliable 
 rather than many that are not much useful for production.

 As Andrei said, people still request more features to be added 
 to even C++. That game never stops.
Why don't we follow a strategy like Intel? Like tick-tock. For one version, increase stability, for another, add new features.
Aug 09 2015
parent Daniel =?UTF-8?B?S296w6Fr?= via Digitalmars-d writes:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 04:24:18 +0000
tcak via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> wrote:

 On Sunday, 9 August 2015 at 17:29:08 UTC, karabuta wrote:
 A lot of request are made most often about what needs to be 
 added in D and what is lacking (multiple compilers, debugging 
 tools, IDEs, GUI, ...). I think a lot has been done already and 
 I suggest focus should be centered on making them stable. 
 Sadly, some have even been abandoned after all the work that 
 went in to them (no names).

 Already contribution is not much, so I believe stabilizing what 
 we have now will at least give us one thing that is reliable 
 rather than many that are not much useful for production.

 As Andrei said, people still request more features to be added 
 to even C++. That game never stops.
Why don't we follow a strategy like Intel? Like tick-tock. For one version, increase stability, for another, add new features.
Because even intel does not do it anymore ;-)
Aug 09 2015