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digitalmars.D - D3 together with Phobos v2

reply IGotD- <nise nise.com> writes:
The work on Phobos v2 has been initiated which is a good thing. 
However, shouldn't D3 be developed alongside withe Phobos v2?

With Phobos v2 we have an opportunity to review what is needed in 
the D language and adjust accordingly. Right now we have a DIP 
process which has a high inertia by design. While this is good 
for a stable language, for new development we need a more 
disruptive platform in order investigate what works/what is 
useful with the D language. Where the maintainers/developers can 
play and investigate new ideas without the fear of destroying for 
the developers working with D2. Basically a long term testing 
ground.

It's really an opportunity we should take advantage of.
Mar 29
next sibling parent reply Suliman <evermind live.ru> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 March 2022 at 10:55:14 UTC, IGotD- wrote:
 The work on Phobos v2 has been initiated which is a good thing. 
 However, shouldn't D3 be developed alongside withe Phobos v2?

 With Phobos v2 we have an opportunity to review what is needed 
 in the D language and adjust accordingly. Right now we have a 
 DIP process which has a high inertia by design. While this is 
 good for a stable language, for new development we need a more 
 disruptive platform in order investigate what works/what is 
 useful with the D language. Where the maintainers/developers 
 can play and investigate new ideas without the fear of 
 destroying for the developers working with D2. Basically a long 
 term testing ground.

 It's really an opportunity we should take advantage of.
Where I can read about Phobos v2?
Mar 30
parent reply IGotD- <nise nise.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 30 March 2022 at 08:32:27 UTC, Suliman wrote:
 Where I can read about Phobos v2?
Not much other than the maintainers have mentioned it from time to time. I interpret that anyway that they have Phobos v2 in mind and will start working on it soon.
Mar 30
parent "H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh quickfur.ath.cx> writes:
On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 09:48:05AM +0000, IGotD- via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 On Wednesday, 30 March 2022 at 08:32:27 UTC, Suliman wrote:
 
 Where I can read about Phobos v2?
Not much other than the maintainers have mentioned it from time to time. I interpret that anyway that they have Phobos v2 in mind and will start working on it soon.
There's also this: https://github.com/dlang/phobos/pull/8309 T -- Ph.D. = Permanent head Damage
Mar 30
prev sibling parent reply Nick Treleaven <nick geany.org> writes:
On Tuesday, 29 March 2022 at 10:55:14 UTC, IGotD- wrote:
 The work on Phobos v2 has been initiated which is a good thing. 
 However, shouldn't D3 be developed alongside withe Phobos v2?
Is there any consensus (among the lead devs) about what needs to change about D2? If not then why do we need D3? D2 can continue to add backwards-compatible features and even deprecate any mis-features if the maintenance cost is too high/too restrictive.
Mar 30
parent rikki cattermole <rikki cattermole.co.nz> writes:
At the current point in time, there is no D3.
Mar 30