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c++.idde - Problems with using Resource Studio

reply "Jurek Wozniak" <jurek_uk01 yahoo.co.uk> writes:
After installing all the software from the DigitalMars CD, and after initial
teething problems with the IDDE not remembering my preferred settings (which
turned out to be due to the fact that all the files on the CD are read-only,
and stay that way when copied to the hard drive, so the user settings can't
be updated !), all was well. ......Except that  I've never been able to use
Resource Studio.
If I try to open an existing resource file (one of those in the examples
supplied on the CD) from within the IDDE, an error box pops up (with no
program title on its menu bar) saying "abnormal program termination".
If I run Resource Studio in stand-alone mode (by running RS32.EXE) and do
the same thing,  the same error box pops up, and on the status line of the
Resource Studio window it says "File winres.h line 736".
(I was trying to open dm\SAMPLES\MFC32\CONTROLS\BUTTON\button.rc at the
time, but have had the same problem with other resource files).
Does anyone have any idea what the problem is please ?
The only thing I can think of is that perhaps some DLLs need to be copied to
the windows system directory (as in the recent posting about SCT3D32.DLL) -
and if that is the case, then which ones ?

Regards to all,

Jurek.
Nov 08 2001
next sibling parent reply Chris <chris widdows.demon.nl> writes:
On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:32:59 -0000, "Jurek Wozniak" <jurek_uk01 yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:


After installing all the software from the DigitalMars CD, and after initial
teething problems with the IDDE not remembering my preferred settings (which
turned out to be due to the fact that all the files on the CD are read-only,
and stay that way when copied to the hard drive, so the user settings can't
be updated !), all was well. ......Except that  I've never been able to use
Resource Studio.
If I try to open an existing resource file (one of those in the examples
supplied on the CD) from within the IDDE, an error box pops up (with no
program title on its menu bar) saying "abnormal program termination".
If I run Resource Studio in stand-alone mode (by running RS32.EXE) and do
the same thing,  the same error box pops up, and on the status line of the
Resource Studio window it says "File winres.h line 736".
(I was trying to open dm\SAMPLES\MFC32\CONTROLS\BUTTON\button.rc at the
time, but have had the same problem with other resource files).
Does anyone have any idea what the problem is please ?
The only thing I can think of is that perhaps some DLLs need to be copied to
the windows system directory (as in the recent posting about SCT3D32.DLL) -
and if that is the case, then which ones ?

Regards to all,

Jurek.


Jurek, 

It wasn't that trivial for me, I ended up copying the resource studio over
from SC++ 7.5. Jan's looking into it, but has asked to be reminded to come
up with an answer ;-) so please do.

Chris
Nov 08 2001
parent reply "Jurek Wozniak" <jurek_uk01 yahoo.co.uk> writes:
Thanks Chris.
Unfortunately I don't have a copy of Symantec C++, so it looks as if I'm out
of luck !
I hope you're reading this Jan ...... please can you help ???!!!!   :-)
Nov 08 2001
parent Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.cc> writes:
Yes, I am reading this. I actually follow all the threads in the news groups.

Jan



Jurek Wozniak wrote:


 Thanks Chris.
 Unfortunately I don't have a copy of Symantec C++, so it looks as if I'm out
 of luck !
 I hope you're reading this Jan ...... please can you help ???!!!!   :-)
Nov 09 2001
prev sibling parent reply "Laurentiu Pancescu" <lpancescu fastmail.fm> writes:
I'm also having problems with Resource Studio, but only under 32-bit IDDE
(abnormal program termination, I didn't try 16bit version, and I'm not going
to!).  If I start RS32.EXE from CMD.EXE (Win2000SP2), it works fine.  Is
there also a DLL version of RS32, like the compiler being available as EXE
for cmdline, and DLL for IDDE?

Maybe you're right about read-only files, maybe this is crashing it.  AFAIK,
RS32 and IDDE are somehow inherited from Symantec C++... did they ever work
together?  Anyway, crashes are usually easy to debug, so, if Jan will find
time for that... :)

Laurentiu

"Jurek Wozniak" <jurek_uk01 yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:9se59p$2jca$1 digitaldaemon.com...

 After installing all the software from the DigitalMars CD, and after


initial

 teething problems with the IDDE not remembering my preferred settings


(which

 turned out to be due to the fact that all the files on the CD are


read-only,

 and stay that way when copied to the hard drive, so the user settings


can't

 be updated !), all was well. ......Except that  I've never been able to


use

 Resource Studio.
 If I try to open an existing resource file (one of those in the examples
 supplied on the CD) from within the IDDE, an error box pops up (with no
 program title on its menu bar) saying "abnormal program termination".
 If I run Resource Studio in stand-alone mode (by running RS32.EXE) and do
 the same thing,  the same error box pops up, and on the status line of the
 Resource Studio window it says "File winres.h line 736".
 (I was trying to open dm\SAMPLES\MFC32\CONTROLS\BUTTON\button.rc at the
 time, but have had the same problem with other resource files).
 Does anyone have any idea what the problem is please ?
 The only thing I can think of is that perhaps some DLLs need to be copied


to

 the windows system directory (as in the recent posting about


SCT3D32.DLL) -

 and if that is the case, then which ones ?

 Regards to all,

 Jurek.
Nov 25 2001
parent reply Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.cc> writes:
Laurentiu Pancescu wrote:


 I'm also having problems with Resource Studio, but only under 32-bit IDDE
 (abnormal program termination, I didn't try 16bit version, and I'm not going
 to!).  If I start RS32.EXE from CMD.EXE (Win2000SP2), it works fine.


Bad enough... That's how it has been tested before it was put in CD-ROM...


  Is
 there also a DLL version of RS32, like the compiler being available as EXE
 for cmdline, and DLL for IDDE?


Not, not as far as I know.


 Maybe you're right about read-only files, maybe this is crashing it.  AFAIK,
 RS32 and IDDE are somehow inherited from Symantec C++...


Correct.


 did they ever work together?


Yes, in the Symantec C++ V7.5 suite...
However.... *THAT* version is not available....


 Anyway, crashes are usually easy to debug, so, if Jan will find time for
 that... :)


Hopefully somewhere in the next two weeks.
Do you need a replacement for now?!

Jan
Nov 26 2001
next sibling parent reply "Laurentiu Pancescu" <lpancescu fastmail.fm> writes:
"Jan Knepper" <jan smartsoft.cc> wrote in message
news:<3C0251B5.4C8AB7FA smartsoft.cc>...

 Laurentiu Pancescu wrote:


 Anyway, crashes are usually easy to debug, so, if Jan will find time for
 that... :)


 Hopefully somewhere in the next two weeks.
 Do you need a replacement for now?!


No, it was actually the first time I used IDDE (I used only command line and
makefiles until now, since I started IDDE once, some while ago, and was
disappointed by the lack of access to Walter's latest developments in
compiler: not even PentiumPro support, I can only select Pentium :).

I was curious how different is DMC's approach to MFC, compared with MSVC's:
I like IDDE much more, it's much more powerful!!  BTW, I think the CD
contains MFC 3.0, and help files for MFC 4.x; is it possible to plug in MFC
4.2 code from DMC site (if it compiles now), and use everything from IDDE.

A suggestion for web site: could you automatically generate some description
with the date of last modifications, and the list of fixes, for those
automatically generated tar-gz files?  I know they're generated every night,
but this doesn't mean that something has really changed from one day to the
other.  So, it's a little harder to decide when it's worth downloading...


Thanks,
  Laurentiu
Nov 26 2001
parent reply Jan Knepper <jan smartsoft.cc> writes:
Laurentiu Pancescu wrote:


 "Jan Knepper" <jan smartsoft.cc> wrote in message
 news:<3C0251B5.4C8AB7FA smartsoft.cc>...

 Laurentiu Pancescu wrote:


 Anyway, crashes are usually easy to debug, so, if Jan will find time for
 that... :)


 Hopefully somewhere in the next two weeks.
 Do you need a replacement for now?!


 No, it was actually the first time I used IDDE (I used only command line and
 makefiles until now, since I started IDDE once, some while ago, and was
 disappointed by the lack of access to Walter's latest developments in
 compiler: not even PentiumPro support, I can only select Pentium :).


Sorry, that indeed is one of the things that is going to change as soon as the
whole package can be properly compiled and build. (Actually, the changes already
have been made.)


 I was curious how different is DMC's approach to MFC, compared with MSVC's:
 I like IDDE much more, it's much more powerful!!  BTW, I think the CD
 contains MFC 3.0, and help files for MFC 4.x; is it possible to plug in MFC
 4.2 code from DMC site (if it compiles now), and use everything from IDDE.


The CD also should contain MFC 4.2, for the 32 bits platform that is...


 A suggestion for web site: could you automatically generate some description
 with the date of last modifications, and the list of fixes, for those
 automatically generated tar-gz files?


Some time in the future...


  I know they're generated every night,
 but this doesn't mean that something has really changed from one day to the
 other.  So, it's a little harder to decide when it's worth downloading...


No, MFC 4.21 in the .tar.gz files hardly ever changes. Basically only if
problems appear after a compiler update. This because I do not think it is a
very good idea to deviate to much from the original MFC incase people want to
compile their projects with more than one compiler...

Jan
Nov 26 2001
parent "Laurentiu Pancescu" <plaur crosswinds.net> writes:
"Jan Knepper" <jan smartsoft.cc> wrote in message
news:3C02BEC8.130C9F63 smartsoft.cc...

 The CD also should contain MFC 4.2, for the 32 bits platform that is...


I saw it in the README last night, *after* posting... :(  What confused me
is that I didn't find TBSTYLE_FLAT defined anywhere (it's there in MSVC's
MFC 4.2, and Win32 headers, since it's a COMCTL32 feature).  The compiler
also complained about CToolBar not having a LoadToolbar method, which I
already used with MSVC, and MFC help files that come with DMC say it's
there.  Does the target have any impact over MFC version?  I saw 16-bit gets
it to 2.53, but how about 32-bit targets (Win32s, WinNT, Win95)?  I think
Win95 marks the EXE as being 4.0.  BTW, I wasn't getting tooltips because
_MFC_VER doesn't get properly defined during resource compiling, and it's
checked for by the generated application.  I thought "rcc -32" defines
_WIN32, which triggers afx.h to go into 32BIT version of MFC (4.2).


Laurentiu
Nov 27 2001
prev sibling parent reply Cesar Rabak <csrabak uol.com.br> writes:
Jan Knepper wrote:

 
 Laurentiu Pancescu wrote:
 

 I'm also having problems with Resource Studio, but only under 32-bit IDDE
 (abnormal program termination, I didn't try 16bit version, and I'm not going
 to!).  If I start RS32.EXE from CMD.EXE (Win2000SP2), it works fine.


 
 Bad enough... That's how it has been tested before it was put in CD-ROM...
 


Just testing my understanding: the above observations mean you folks
were able to start and _load_ a resource file?
Nov 26 2001
parent reply "Laurentiu Pancescu" <plaur crosswinds.net> writes:
"Cesar Rabak" <csrabak uol.com.br> wrote in message
news:3C02DF90.6B17AD33 uol.com.br...

 Just testing my understanding: the above observations mean you folks
 were able to start and _load_ a resource file?


Nope, just to start... it crashes on Open!!  :(

Laurentiu
Nov 27 2001
parent Cesar Rabak <csrabak uol.com.br> writes:
Laurentiu Pancescu wrote:

 
 "Cesar Rabak" <csrabak uol.com.br> wrote in message
 news:3C02DF90.6B17AD33 uol.com.br...

 Just testing my understanding: the above observations mean you folks
 were able to start and _load_ a resource file?


 
 Nope, just to start... it crashes on Open!!  :(
 
 Laurentiu


OK, so no new news, after of all... ;-(


-- 
Cesar Rabak
Dec 02 2001