D - Building a D Task List
- Suporte MPS (40/40) Mar 07 2002 Hello All D philosophers,
- Pavel Minayev (5/9) Mar 07 2002 Nothing against this, but I think that initiative should have
- Juarez Rudsatz (2/16) Mar 07 2002 Understand. Agreed.
- Walter (5/14) Mar 07 2002 I think it's a fantastic idea. Being at heart a programmer, however, I'm
- Juarez Rudsatz (13/29) Mar 07 2002 I suggest delegation.
- Pavel Minayev (17/29) Mar 07 2002 Well I don't think it's the best idea... some people who used
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OddesE
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Mar 11 2002
- Pavel Minayev (25/40) Mar 07 2002 What do you mean? Writing an editor, or writing config files for
- Robert M. Münch (32/36) Mar 08 2002 Hi, I agree with your concerns at the moment. Further IMO there is the
- Pavel Minayev (8/17) Mar 08 2002 Err... those? =)
- Juarez Rudsatz (27/88) Mar 08 2002 This is simply some ideas. This need more dicutions yet.
- Pavel Minayev (12/18) Mar 08 2002 So do I. So I wrote a proper .hrc D scheme for Colorer
Hello All D philosophers, The D language and tools are switching from a very alpha level to a less alpha level. Or maybe a beta level. Walter has done a great job until now. But there are many things to do yet and he could not do everything. I haven't see yet a contributors task list. Someone will argue: Just contribute! But organization is a very good thing. And if we have a task list and priorities specified, this will transmit more trust for new programmers and engineers. This will help yet for us know where we wanna going ? I propose a task list creation. This list could contain many things: o Tools - source code formater - editors support o Documentation - Manual enhancement - Faq ( from this news ) - Tutorial -- Starting with D -- Building 'this app type' with D -- Aplication Design with D -- C to D -- C++ to D -- Delphi to D -- Java to D - Man Pages, help - Source code examples o Research - Porting D to another OS - Debuging - Case studies o Internet Magazine - Site - D weekly news - D status My intetion is continue increasing the community and making a 'active community' more and more. The work will depend of personal interests in 'D project'. Comments, Suggenstion , Negatives ? Juarez Rudsatz
Mar 07 2002
"Suporte MPS" <juarez correio.com> wrote in message news:3C87DFE7.C1B128B2 correio.com...My intetion is continue increasing the community and making a 'active community' more and more. The work will depend of personal interests in 'D project'. Comments, Suggenstion , Negatives ?Nothing against this, but I think that initiative should have come from Walter. Walter, what do you think of this? Does this form of support fit?
Mar 07 2002
Juarez Rudsatz <juarez correio.com> Pavel Minayev wrote:"Suporte MPS" <juarez correio.com> wrote in message news:3C87DFE7.C1B128B2 correio.com...Understand. Agreed.My intetion is continue increasing the community and making a 'active community' more and more. The work will depend of personal interests in 'D project'. Comments, Suggenstion , Negatives ?Nothing against this, but I think that initiative should have come from Walter. Walter, what do you think of this? Does this form of support fit?
Mar 07 2002
"Pavel Minayev" <evilone omen.ru> wrote in message news:a68njo$6d1$1 digitaldaemon.com..."Suporte MPS" <juarez correio.com> wrote in message news:3C87DFE7.C1B128B2 correio.com...I think it's a fantastic idea. Being at heart a programmer, however, I'm happy if someone else does the managing. I'm very poor at managing anyone and anything but my own work. Any ideas?My intetion is continue increasing the community and making a 'active community' more and more. The work will depend of personal interests in 'D project'. Comments, Suggenstion , Negatives ?Nothing against this, but I think that initiative should have come from Walter. Walter, what do you think of this? Does this form of support fit?
Mar 07 2002
Walter wrote:"Pavel Minayev" <evilone omen.ru> wrote in message news:a68njo$6d1$1 digitaldaemon.com...I suggest delegation. The algoritm is the following: 1 - Walter takes all emails from this news. 2 - The highest count of messages is the first candidate 3 - Talk with candidate and ask his caracterics. ( Politics, Compromisse, Time, Patience, Humble, ...) 4 - if(candidate == yes) delegate_him(); else next_candidate() 5 - Person who was delegated will start discution about needs 6 - He makes the list from discution 7 - People choose a task to volutarian 8 - Person groups the work Comments, Negatives ?"Suporte MPS" <juarez correio.com> wrote in message news:3C87DFE7.C1B128B2 correio.com...I think it's a fantastic idea. Being at heart a programmer, however, I'm happy if someone else does the managing. I'm very poor at managing anyone and anything but my own work. Any ideas?My intetion is continue increasing the community and making a 'active community' more and more. The work will depend of personal interests in 'D project'. Comments, Suggenstion , Negatives ?Nothing against this, but I think that initiative should have come from Walter. Walter, what do you think of this? Does this form of support fit?
Mar 07 2002
"Juarez Rudsatz" <juarez correio.com> wrote in message news:3C881751.F32D4402 correio.com...I suggest delegation. The algoritm is the following: 1 - Walter takes all emails from this news. 2 - The highest count of messages is the first candidate 3 - Talk with candidate and ask his caracterics. ( Politics, Compromisse, Time, Patience, Humble, ...) 4 - if(candidate == yes) delegate_him(); else next_candidate() 5 - Person who was delegated will start discution about needs 6 - He makes the list from discution 7 - People choose a task to volutarian 8 - Person groups the work Comments, Negatives ?Well I don't think it's the best idea... some people who used to be here in the past seem to disappear, so you have to take some period - say last month - for more realistic results. Anyhow, message count is not the best way, if you've read the "Death to C/C++" topic, you've seen how many messages by Mr D were posted there - and do you consider him a worthy candidate? =) Anyhow, the statistics might be interesting, so I thought I'll check. My archive begins at 16.12.2001 and consists of 1640 messages. So here are the top 3 posters: me, with 473 messages OddesE, with 88 Russ, with 80 Walter posted 332 messages, but I don't list him here for obvious reasons. =)
Mar 07 2002
"Pavel Minayev" <evilone omen.ru> wrote in message news:a69obv$jkp$3 digitaldaemon.com..."Juarez Rudsatz" <juarez correio.com> wrote in message news:3C881751.F32D4402 correio.com...<SNIP>Anyhow, the statistics might be interesting, so I thought I'll check. My archive begins at 16.12.2001 and consists of 1640 messages. So here are the top 3 posters: me, with 473 messages OddesE, with 88 Russ, with 80 Walter posted 332 messages, but I don't list him here for obvious reasons. =)LOL! Am I the second top poster? :) Maybe I should stop replying to mr. D.... :) -- Stijn OddesE_XYZ hotmail.com http://OddesE.cjb.net __________________________________________ Remove _XYZ from my address when replying by mail
Mar 11 2002
"Suporte MPS" <juarez correio.com> wrote in message news:3C87DFE7.C1B128B2 correio.com...- editors supportWhat do you mean? Writing an editor, or writing config files for those "multi-purpose" out there?- Tutorial -- Starting with DWhat's the difference between the two?-- Building 'this app type' with Denum this_app_type { /* what? */ }-- Aplication Design with DA bit too early for this, don't you think? Let's wait till the language is at least beta.-- C to D -- C++ to D -- Delphi to D -- Java to DIt's all great, but the problem is, current D compiler doesn't support all the features that are in the specification. So, if I write the "Delphi to D" guide, I'll have to mention about property gettors/settors, right? And then I'll have to add, "but these aren't currently implemented in DMD compiler"...- Source code examplesThis could be done by taking some well-known set of samples written in C/C++, and converting them to D. Of course, some D-specific features will have to be covered by samples written from scratch.- Porting D to another OS - DebugingI thought Walter wants to integrate D with IDDE?- SiteIt would be required to merge everything mentioned above. However, it's useless until we've got at least one of those.- D weekly newsAnd what shall we put there? Announcements of new versions? What else?- D statusI think it's better tracked by the one who works of it, well you know the name =)
Mar 07 2002
"Pavel Minayev" <evilone omen.ru> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:a69oc1$jkp$4 digitaldaemon.com..."Suporte MPS" <juarez correio.com> wrote in message news:3C87DFE7.C1B128B2 correio.com...Hi, I agree with your concerns at the moment. Further IMO there is the danger of forking to many different place to look for information about D. Discussion and dynamic should be left here in the newsgroup. Lifting hard facts, value information to something like a D portal (should this be put at digitalmars.com or on an other site?) makes sense to get people interested and started ASAP. I'm following the news and I really like D but I didn't used it a lot yet (lack of time :-(( and not sure where to start, what to do etc.). So from my point of view things like the following might be a good starting point: 1. Top-Level Information: Most of the stuff can be found in the docs somewhere. It might help to create a dense presentation about this information. Some marketing always helps ;-)) 2. Managing contribution: Yes, this makes sense. - Here I see how to get D connected to the rest of the world. There is the work done for OpenGL, SDL, ... Those people should write a tutorial how to create import files for D, what the pitfalls are etc. It would be good if those efforts are managed to avoid double work. - The next things are "real-world-examples/projects". It's ok to see some demos etc. but what are you using D for now? I know it's alpha and not feature complete but IMO D could be used for normal complex real-world-projects. Anyone doing something in this direction? - The docs state what's missing at the moment etc. but what implication has this for my work? If I don't know D can I decide from this information if D might be a tool for my project? What benefits do I get if I use it? -- Robert M. Münch IT & Management Freelancer Mobile: +49 (0)177 2452 802 Fax : +49 (0)721 8408 9112 Web : http://www.robertmuench.de- editors support... SNIPPED ...
Mar 08 2002
"Robert M. Münch" <robert.muench robertmuench.de> wrote in message news:a6a3j0$opc$1 digitaldaemon.com...2. Managing contribution: Yes, this makes sense. - Here I see how to get D connected to the rest of the world. There is the work done for OpenGL, SDL, ... Those people should write a tutorial how to create import files for D, what the pitfalls are etc. It would be good if those efforts are managed to avoid double work.Err... those? =) And what's the difficulty with writing import files?- The next things are "real-world-examples/projects". It's ok to see some demos etc. but what are you using D for now? I know it's alpha and not feature complete but IMO D could be used for normal complex real-world-projects. Anyone doing something in this direction?I'm working on the GUI class library for D. It goes pretty nice, and I expect to get it released soon (when I finally choose the event model to use). Also, I've thought of writing an editor for D modules in D.
Mar 08 2002
This is simply some ideas. This need more dicutions yet. There are many other things to talk, Lincenses, Marketing... All things are not just for now. We can do according with resources. "Pavel Minayev" <evilone omen.ru> wrote in news:a69oc1$jkp$4 digitaldaemon.com:"Suporte MPS" <juarez correio.com> wrote in message news:3C87DFE7.C1B128B2 correio.com...Both. All Programmers (which I know) like sintax highlight.- editors supportWhat do you mean? Writing an editor, or writing config files for those "multi-purpose" out there?- Some examples of Tutorial from my mind { -- Starting with D -- C to D -- C++ to D -- Delphi to D -- Java to D -- Pavel Tips -- FAQ from this news. ... }- Tutorial -- Starting with DWhat's the difference between the two?It's true. But in a short time this will be done. While this don't happens, We could write others docs explaining what could be done.-- Building 'this app type' with Denum this_app_type { /* what? */ }-- Aplication Design with DA bit too early for this, don't you think? Let's wait till the language is at least beta.-- C to D -- C++ to D -- Delphi to D -- Java to DIt's all great, but the problem is, current D compiler doesn't support all the features that are in the specification. So, if I write the "Delphi to D" guide, I'll have to mention about property gettors/settors, right? And then I'll have to add, "but these aren't currently implemented in DMD compiler"...Yes. This would be great ! But we could reviews the C/C++ strategy like Walter have made with language. What you thing ?- Source code examplesThis could be done by taking some well-known set of samples written in C/C++, and converting them to D. Of course, some D-specific features will have to be covered by samples written from scratch.Yes.- Porting D to another OS - DebugingI thought Walter wants to integrate D with IDDE?- SiteIt would be required to merge everything mentioned above. However, it's useless until we've got at least one of those.See the Abiword weekly news : http://www.abiword.org/information/news/2002/awn82.phtml- D weekly newsAnd what shall we put there? Announcements of new versions? What else?Yes. But we need remove work from this person. Thus he could implement the so waited features. This can be a starting point. There are much to be done.- D statusI think it's better tracked by the one who works of it, well you know the name =)
Mar 08 2002
"Juarez Rudsatz" <juarez correio.com> wrote in message news:Xns91CB905D82C63juarez 63.105.9.61...So do I. So I wrote a proper .hrc D scheme for Colorer FAR manager (da best!) plugin - all D keywords as per latest alpha, escape chars in strings highlighted separately, /+ +/ comments supported... anyone needs it? As for the editor, this is something I'm willing to work on as soon as I get at least a bit more free time.What do you mean? Writing an editor, or writing config files for those "multi-purpose" out there?Both. All Programmers (which I know) like sintax highlight.-- Pavel Tips...what was that? =)Yes. This would be great ! But we could reviews the C/C++ strategy like Walter have made with language. What you thing ?Well, we could just start and see how it is going... So, anybody is aware of any _good_, clean, object-oriented set of small C++ example programs? Or something like that?
Mar 08 2002