• Brian G. <Brian_member pathlink.com> Jul 07 2004
• "Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> Jul 08 2004
• Brian G. <Brian_member pathlink.com> Jul 08 2004
• Brian G. <Brian_member pathlink.com> Jul 08 2004
• "Kar G Lim" <klim machealth.com.au> Jul 11 2004
• Radoslaw Zarwalski <Radoslaw_member pathlink.com> Jul 12 2004
• David Medlock <amedlock nospam.org> Jul 12 2004
• Ben Hinkle <bhinkle4 juno.com> Jul 12 2004
• Stephen Waits <steve waits.net> Jul 13 2004
• "Ben Hinkle" <bhinkle mathworks.com> Jul 13 2004
• Ilya Minkov <minkov cs.tum.edu> Jul 22 2004

Brian G. <Brian_member pathlink.com> writes:

I first started playing Empire on the Vax in college circa 1981 and spent many a
long night on it when I should have been sleeping or doing homework. I
downloaded v2.01 for XP a few weeks ago and have really been enjoying it.
However, I do miss the computer asking me "Are you sure you want to ..." when I
accidentally run a ship aground or march an army into the sea. Why were these
idiotproofing features removed? My poor armies really need to learn to swim!

Brian G.

"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

"Brian G." <Brian_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:cciac7$2qk4$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Why were these idiotproofing features removed?


Would you want an idiot as Emperor? <grin>

Brian G. <Brian_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <cckc0g$2r9a$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
"Brian G." <Brian_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:cciac7$2qk4$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Why were these idiotproofing features removed?


Would you want an idiot as Emperor? <grin>



My poor armies will just have to put up with my hasty moves.

Brian G. <Brian_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <cckc0g$2r9a$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
"Brian G." <Brian_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:cciac7$2qk4$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Why were these idiotproofing features removed?


Would you want an idiot as Emperor? <grin>



My poor armies will just have to suffer with my hasty moves.

"Kar G Lim" <klim machealth.com.au> writes:

"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote in message
news:cckc0g$2r9a$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Would you want an idiot as Emperor? <grin>


We do/did have a few in this world....  Plus a couple of leaders that went
to war recently....

Bah, just leave it at that...

Radoslaw Zarwalski <Radoslaw_member pathlink.com> writes:

In article <cct7rn$eaq$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Kar G Lim says...
"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote in message
news:cckc0g$2r9a$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Would you want an idiot as Emperor? <grin>


We do/did have a few in this world....  Plus a couple of leaders that went
to war recently....

Bah, just leave it at that...


opponents on your PC than to kill a real human. There is something called
"consequences" which is often forgotten by the "emperors".

David Medlock <amedlock nospam.org> writes:

Kar G Lim wrote:
 "Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote in message
 news:cckc0g$2r9a$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 
Would you want an idiot as Emperor? <grin>


 
 We do/did have a few in this world....  Plus a couple of leaders that went
 to war recently....
 
 Bah, just leave it at that...
 
 


Blair.  No alternatives are ever given either.  The most idiotic thing a 
leader can do in crisis IS nothing.

I won't get into a long discussion on this, but anyone who says we 
weren't justified just doesn't have a grasp on the facts of the matter.

Barring the fact Saddam killed over a million and people protest 
removing him....

Ben Hinkle <bhinkle4 juno.com> writes:

David Medlock wrote:

 Kar G Lim wrote:
 "Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote in message
 news:cckc0g$2r9a$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 
Would you want an idiot as Emperor? <grin>


 
 We do/did have a few in this world....  Plus a couple of leaders that
 went to war recently....
 
 Bah, just leave it at that...
 
 


 Blair.  No alternatives are ever given either.  The most idiotic thing a
 leader can do in crisis IS nothing.
 
 I won't get into a long discussion on this, but anyone who says we
 weren't justified just doesn't have a grasp on the facts of the matter.
 
 Barring the fact Saddam killed over a million and people protest
 removing him....


On the topic of Bush I saw Fahrenheit 9/11 yesterday and I was very moved by
it. I was expecting lots of Bush bashing but the interviews and footage
about Iraq were extremely powerful and intense. What the ordinary soldiers
say is just chilling. I recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it yet.

Stephen Waits <steve waits.net> writes:

David Medlock wrote:
 
 I won't get into a long discussion on this, but anyone who says we 
 weren't justified just doesn't have a grasp on the facts of the matter.


Well, just the act of posting this will incite a long COMPLETELY OFF 
TOPIC DISCUSSION.

Drop it or be known as a troll.

--Steve

"Ben Hinkle" <bhinkle mathworks.com> writes:

"Stephen Waits" <steve waits.net> wrote in message
news:cd1680$uk7$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 David Medlock wrote:
 I won't get into a long discussion on this, but anyone who says we
 weren't justified just doesn't have a grasp on the facts of the matter.


 Well, just the act of posting this will incite a long COMPLETELY OFF
 TOPIC DISCUSSION.

 Drop it or be known as a troll.

 --Steve


ohhh - this newsgroup only gets a trickle of postings anway. What we need is
a nice "d.advocacy" group consisting almost entirely of off-topic flamewars.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (as JTK would say).

just kidding.

Ilya Minkov <minkov cs.tum.edu> writes:

David Medlock wrote:
 Its easy to sit in security from afar and pass judgement on Bush and 
 Blair.  No alternatives are ever given either.  The most idiotic thing a 
 leader can do in crisis IS nothing.


What crisis exactly do you mean? One can interpret many things in the 
word "crisis". I don't want to fire up a flamewar, i just wonder what 
way you think.

And i'm not saying anything was idiotic. It was just damn bad, selfish, 
dangerous. The actions taken will have consequences. Not only the 
invasion in Iraq, there's a lot of other things.

 I won't get into a long discussion on this, but anyone who says we 
 weren't justified just doesn't have a grasp on the facts of the matter.


And you? I only see Goebbels speaking.

 Barring the fact Saddam killed over a million and people protest 
 removing him....


Ten times this many iraqi people were killed by UN sanctions, driving 
the country into poverty. And just look at the neighboring countries and 
at the situation establishing now. Of course you're unaware of what kind 
of leadership, say, Saudi Arabia has. And we have to expect that either 
something alike establishes itself in Iraq, or they'll have a permanent 
civil war there.

I'm sorry beforehand for stirring it up. I suggest not to lead a strong 
discussion. Let the time be our judge.

-eye