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digitalmars.D.dwt - DWT-Win gentle remarks

reply Bjoern <nanali nospam-wanadoo.fr> writes:
1) I hope that the usergdi etc. modifications will be merged into Tango.

2) Using the latest dwt snapshot requires opengl32.lib. Please add this 
file to the lib. download

3)Do you see a chance that DWT-X will be bundled with Tango to ease 
installation ?

Bjoern
Feb 12 2008
next sibling parent reply bobef <bobef abv-nospam.bg> writes:
 3)Do you see a chance that DWT-X will be bundled with Tango to ease 
 installation ?
 
 Bjoern

I think it should be bundled with DMD, since DWT is the "standard" D GUI ;) And obviously Tango should follow it :D
Feb 12 2008
parent Bjoern <nanali nospam-wanadoo.fr> writes:
bobef schrieb:
 3)Do you see a chance that DWT-X will be bundled with Tango to ease 
 installation ?

 Bjoern

I think it should be bundled with DMD, since DWT is the "standard" D GUI ;) And obviously Tango should follow it :D

Feb 12 2008
prev sibling parent reply John Reimer <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:
Bjoern wrote:
 1) I hope that the usergdi etc. modifications will be merged into Tango.
 

We don't know how or if that will happen yet. But we definitely need to fix that somehow. Having the directory structure that we have currently is suboptimal.
 2) Using the latest dwt snapshot requires opengl32.lib. Please add this 
 file to the lib. download

Right...I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder. It also requires glu32.lib as well.
 3)Do you see a chance that DWT-X will be bundled with Tango to ease 
 installation ?
 
 Bjoern

I have no idea. But I'm not sure if it should. This is a fairly large library and adding all dwt platforms to the tango distribution would severely bloat the download. I think it will be important to package dwt-win and dwt-linux in an easy-to-install format, however. One option I'm thinking about is a sort of dsss package (making it easy to install like dsss net install). All you should have to do is download the latest stable release of dwt (packaged something like DD-dwt-win-vXX.zip) and install the package locally with something like "dsss install DD-dwt-win-vXX.zip" which would install the *.di files and library. This would make for simple integration of the package into IDE's and such. But currently dsss does not have this feature... would be kind of nice, though. ;) -JJR
Feb 12 2008
next sibling parent Bjoern <nanali nospam-wanadoo.fr> writes:
John Reimer schrieb:
 Bjoern wrote:
 1) I hope that the usergdi etc. modifications will be merged into Tango.

We don't know how or if that will happen yet. But we definitely need to fix that somehow. Having the directory structure that we have currently is suboptimal.
 2) Using the latest dwt snapshot requires opengl32.lib. Please add 
 this file to the lib. download

Right...I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder. It also requires glu32.lib as well.
 3)Do you see a chance that DWT-X will be bundled with Tango to ease 
 installation ?

 Bjoern

I have no idea. But I'm not sure if it should. This is a fairly large library and adding all dwt platforms to the tango distribution would severely bloat the download. I think it will be important to package dwt-win and dwt-linux in an easy-to-install format, however.

Good point.
 One option I'm thinking about is a sort of dsss package (making it easy 
 to install like dsss net install).  All you should have to do is 
 download the latest stable release of dwt (packaged something like 
 DD-dwt-win-vXX.zip) and install the package locally with something like 
 "dsss install DD-dwt-win-vXX.zip" which would install the *.di files and 
 library.  This would make for simple integration of the package into 
 IDE's and such.  But currently dsss does not have this feature... would 
 be kind of nice, though. ;)

I miss DLL support :)
 
 -JJR

DWT Scintilla. Could we use the "old" DWT wrapper ? Just had a look and afaik there is not sooo much to change, io/stream, exeption and SharedLib.load. Bjoern
Feb 12 2008
prev sibling next sibling parent reply doob <doobnet gmail.com> writes:
John Reimer wrote:
 Bjoern wrote:
 1) I hope that the usergdi etc. modifications will be merged into Tango.

We don't know how or if that will happen yet. But we definitely need to fix that somehow. Having the directory structure that we have currently is suboptimal.
 2) Using the latest dwt snapshot requires opengl32.lib. Please add 
 this file to the lib. download

Right...I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder. It also requires glu32.lib as well.
 3)Do you see a chance that DWT-X will be bundled with Tango to ease 
 installation ?

 Bjoern

I have no idea. But I'm not sure if it should. This is a fairly large library and adding all dwt platforms to the tango distribution would severely bloat the download. I think it will be important to package dwt-win and dwt-linux in an easy-to-install format, however. One option I'm thinking about is a sort of dsss package (making it easy to install like dsss net install). All you should have to do is download the latest stable release of dwt (packaged something like DD-dwt-win-vXX.zip) and install the package locally with something like "dsss install DD-dwt-win-vXX.zip" which would install the *.di files and library. This would make for simple integration of the package into IDE's and such. But currently dsss does not have this feature... would be kind of nice, though. ;) -JJR

What about "dsss net install dwt", that is usually very simple
Feb 12 2008
parent reply John Reimer <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:
doob wrote:
 John Reimer wrote:
 Bjoern wrote:
 1) I hope that the usergdi etc. modifications will be merged into Tango.

We don't know how or if that will happen yet. But we definitely need to fix that somehow. Having the directory structure that we have currently is suboptimal.
 2) Using the latest dwt snapshot requires opengl32.lib. Please add 
 this file to the lib. download

Right...I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder. It also requires glu32.lib as well.
 3)Do you see a chance that DWT-X will be bundled with Tango to ease 
 installation ?

 Bjoern

I have no idea. But I'm not sure if it should. This is a fairly large library and adding all dwt platforms to the tango distribution would severely bloat the download. I think it will be important to package dwt-win and dwt-linux in an easy-to-install format, however. One option I'm thinking about is a sort of dsss package (making it easy to install like dsss net install). All you should have to do is download the latest stable release of dwt (packaged something like DD-dwt-win-vXX.zip) and install the package locally with something like "dsss install DD-dwt-win-vXX.zip" which would install the *.di files and library. This would make for simple integration of the package into IDE's and such. But currently dsss does not have this feature... would be kind of nice, though. ;) -JJR

What about "dsss net install dwt", that is usually very simple

Yes, that is simple. But I'd like an alternative option that can neatly package all the necessary content in one file for a particular version. This way you can install/uninstall at whim knowing that you have the backup package immediately available for that version. This is useful for off-line use when the net is not immediately available. Currently, uninstalling a "net install" with dsss (I believe) does not backup the content. My understanding is that you would have to download it all over again (Correct me if I'm wrong). Also I'm not sure how "net install" handles project versions, but I don't know of any easy way to install/uninstall different versions of a library (a procedure that might be useful for testing purposes). Having a package, on the other hand, would eliminate this issue. You can store these backups for later use if necessary, but not be obligated to use them once they are downloaded. -JJR
Feb 12 2008
parent Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
John Reimer wrote:
 doob wrote:
 John Reimer wrote:
 Bjoern wrote:
 1) I hope that the usergdi etc. modifications will be merged into 
 Tango.

We don't know how or if that will happen yet. But we definitely need to fix that somehow. Having the directory structure that we have currently is suboptimal.
 2) Using the latest dwt snapshot requires opengl32.lib. Please add 
 this file to the lib. download

Right...I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder. It also requires glu32.lib as well.
 3)Do you see a chance that DWT-X will be bundled with Tango to ease 
 installation ?

 Bjoern

I have no idea. But I'm not sure if it should. This is a fairly large library and adding all dwt platforms to the tango distribution would severely bloat the download. I think it will be important to package dwt-win and dwt-linux in an easy-to-install format, however. One option I'm thinking about is a sort of dsss package (making it easy to install like dsss net install). All you should have to do is download the latest stable release of dwt (packaged something like DD-dwt-win-vXX.zip) and install the package locally with something like "dsss install DD-dwt-win-vXX.zip" which would install the *.di files and library. This would make for simple integration of the package into IDE's and such. But currently dsss does not have this feature... would be kind of nice, though. ;) -JJR

What about "dsss net install dwt", that is usually very simple

Yes, that is simple. But I'd like an alternative option that can neatly package all the necessary content in one file for a particular version. This way you can install/uninstall at whim knowing that you have the backup package immediately available for that version. This is useful for off-line use when the net is not immediately available. Currently, uninstalling a "net install" with dsss (I believe) does not backup the content. My understanding is that you would have to download it all over again (Correct me if I'm wrong). Also I'm not sure how "net install" handles project versions, but I don't know of any easy way to install/uninstall different versions of a library (a procedure that might be useful for testing purposes).

DSSS net has absolutely no concept of versions. A library is either installed or it isn't. So you are correct. If you need to be able to switch between various versions then DSSS is very little help. --bb
Feb 13 2008
prev sibling parent Frank Benoit <keinfarbton googlemail.com> writes:
John Reimer schrieb:
 2) Using the latest dwt snapshot requires opengl32.lib. Please add 
 this file to the lib. download

Right...I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder. It also requires glu32.lib as well.

the zip file for dwt-win import libs is updated
Feb 12 2008