• "Lynn Allan" <l_d_allan adelphia.net> Feb 28 2006
• Charles <noone nowhere.com> Mar 01 2006
• Kyle Furlong <kylefurlong gmail.com> Mar 01 2006

"Lynn Allan" <l_d_allan adelphia.net> writes:

<alert comment="windows developer who is relatively ignorant about
cross-platform issues except for bad experiences with wxWidgets">

My understanding is that the latest Empire for Win32 was written with
MinWin. I recall looking at MinWin quite a while back, and was
intrigued by the concept of a minimal gui library.

At that point, I decided to try out Vathix's DFL for porting an app
from MFC to D. I found DFL to work well and to be actively supported.
I hope that the selection of DWT doesn't reduce DFL development and
progress.

I was actually pleasantly surprised at the functionality in MinWin
that was available and used by Empire .... such as RadioButtons and
dialogs. Nice job, Ben.

My question: considering the dominance of Windows on the desktop, does
that justify having a non-portable gui library for Windows being
endorsed, supported, and/or "official"? (whatever that means) .... in
addition to DWT?

IMHANVIO (in my humble and not very informed opinion), DFL (and
perhaps MinWin?) would be appropriate to be considered as official and
endorsed gui libraries for D.

</alert>

Charles <noone nowhere.com> writes:

 At that point, I decided to try out Vathix's DFL for porting an app
 from MFC to D. I found DFL to work well and to be actively supported.
 I hope that the selection of DWT doesn't reduce DFL development and
 progress.


I like DFL too , its especially useful for people coming from .NET.  And 
it has kick-ass GUI builder ( http://www.dprogramming.com/entice.php ) .

 IMHANVIO (in my humble and not very informed opinion), DFL (and
 perhaps MinWin?) would be appropriate to be considered as official and
 endorsed gui libraries for D.


I do think that digitalmars.D.dwt should be renamed

D.gui.dwt

Which would also allow for

D.gui.dfl
D.gui.wxD
D.gui.MinWin
D.gui.dui

etc ...

Particularly because DWT is not the product of Digitalmars.

$0.02

Charlie


Lynn Allan wrote:
 <alert comment="windows developer who is relatively ignorant about
 cross-platform issues except for bad experiences with wxWidgets">
 
 My understanding is that the latest Empire for Win32 was written with
 MinWin. I recall looking at MinWin quite a while back, and was
 intrigued by the concept of a minimal gui library.
 
 At that point, I decided to try out Vathix's DFL for porting an app
 from MFC to D. I found DFL to work well and to be actively supported.
 I hope that the selection of DWT doesn't reduce DFL development and
 progress.
 
 I was actually pleasantly surprised at the functionality in MinWin
 that was available and used by Empire .... such as RadioButtons and
 dialogs. Nice job, Ben.
 
 My question: considering the dominance of Windows on the desktop, does
 that justify having a non-portable gui library for Windows being
 endorsed, supported, and/or "official"? (whatever that means) .... in
 addition to DWT?
 
 IMHANVIO (in my humble and not very informed opinion), DFL (and
 perhaps MinWin?) would be appropriate to be considered as official and
 endorsed gui libraries for D.
 
 </alert>
 
 
 
 

Kyle Furlong <kylefurlong gmail.com> writes:

Charles wrote:
  > At that point, I decided to try out Vathix's DFL for porting an app
  > from MFC to D. I found DFL to work well and to be actively supported.
  > I hope that the selection of DWT doesn't reduce DFL development and
  > progress.
 
 I like DFL too , its especially useful for people coming from .NET.  And 
 it has kick-ass GUI builder ( http://www.dprogramming.com/entice.php ) .
 
  > IMHANVIO (in my humble and not very informed opinion), DFL (and
  > perhaps MinWin?) would be appropriate to be considered as official and
  > endorsed gui libraries for D.
 
 I do think that digitalmars.D.dwt should be renamed
 
 D.gui.dwt
 
 Which would also allow for
 
 D.gui.dfl
 D.gui.wxD
 D.gui.MinWin
 D.gui.dui
 
 etc ...
 
 Particularly because DWT is not the product of Digitalmars.
 
 $0.02
 
 Charlie
 
 
 Lynn Allan wrote:
 <alert comment="windows developer who is relatively ignorant about
 cross-platform issues except for bad experiences with wxWidgets">

 My understanding is that the latest Empire for Win32 was written with
 MinWin. I recall looking at MinWin quite a while back, and was
 intrigued by the concept of a minimal gui library.

 At that point, I decided to try out Vathix's DFL for porting an app
 from MFC to D. I found DFL to work well and to be actively supported.
 I hope that the selection of DWT doesn't reduce DFL development and
 progress.

 I was actually pleasantly surprised at the functionality in MinWin
 that was available and used by Empire .... such as RadioButtons and
 dialogs. Nice job, Ben.

 My question: considering the dominance of Windows on the desktop, does
 that justify having a non-portable gui library for Windows being
 endorsed, supported, and/or "official"? (whatever that means) .... in
 addition to DWT?

 IMHANVIO (in my humble and not very informed opinion), DFL (and
 perhaps MinWin?) would be appropriate to be considered as official and
 endorsed gui libraries for D.

 </alert>




I also really like DFL, coming from a .NET background as well.