• "Matthew" <admin stlsoft.dot.dot.dot.dot.org> Aug 03 2004
• Gold Dragon <dragonwing dragonu.net> Aug 04 2004
• teqDruid <me teqdruid.com> Aug 04 2004
• "Matthew" <admin.hat stlsoft.dot.org> Aug 17 2004
• Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> Aug 04 2004
• "Ivan Senji" <ivan.senji public.srce.hr> Aug 05 2004
• Andy Friesen <andy ikagames.com> Aug 05 2004
• Juanjo =?ISO-8859-15?Q?=C1lvarez?= <juanjuxNO SPAMyahoo.es> Aug 05 2004
• "Matthew" <admin.hat stlsoft.dot.org> Aug 17 2004
• "Lynn Allan" <l_d_allan adelphia.net> Sep 01 2004
• "Matthew" <admin.hat stlsoft.dot.org> Sep 01 2004
• "Lynn Allan" <l_d_allan adelphia.net> Sep 02 2004
• Gold Dragon <dragonwing dragonu.net> Sep 02 2004
• "Lynn Allan" <l_d_allan adelphia.net> Sep 02 2004

"Matthew" <admin stlsoft.dot.dot.dot.dot.org> writes:

As I've got very limited time at the moment, but intend to keep up the momentum
with DTL now it's rolling, I wanted to
canvas opinion on what you would all like to see for DTL 0.2, which I hope to
release sometime next week. The options
are:

- More comprehensive examples using current containers
- Documentation of the current containers (via Doxygen)
- D-ising the syntax (i.e. collect_with => collectWith. etc.) of the current
containers
- A first attempt at "The Spirit of DTL" document, so everyone can grok my
vision (or carp on about it.<g>)
- Set template being implemented
- Parameterised interfaces (currently looks like I've a linker bug, but Walter
says he'll lend a hand, so it's doable)
- Propagating composable transformations to all current containers

- or any other things I've not thought of.

Remembering I'm a little tight right now, please put them in prioritised order
if you make multiple
requests/suggestions.

Cheers

Matthew

Gold Dragon <dragonwing dragonu.net> writes:

Matthew wrote:

 - More comprehensive examples using current containers
 - Documentation of the current containers (via Doxygen)


Always good to have but I think most are intelligent enough to realize 
how to use collections.

 - D-ising the syntax (i.e. collect_with => collectWith. etc.) of the current
containers


Couldn't we, um, do that for you? If people bitch about something, they 
should at least try to do something about it, you know, by themselves. 
How hard can it be...

 - A first attempt at "The Spirit of DTL" document, so everyone can grok my
vision (or carp on about it.<g>)


I grok that.

 Remembering I'm a little tight right now, please put them in prioritised order
if you make multiple
 requests/suggestions.


Bow to our service slave and bring me my dinner! </end sarcasm>

My two cents or two US Dollars (you know inflation)

teqDruid <me teqdruid.com> writes:

For myself, implementation of Set is a higher priority than the other
things you list.

John

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 16:01:33 +1000, Matthew wrote:

 As I've got very limited time at the moment, but intend to keep up the
momentum with DTL now it's rolling, I wanted to
 canvas opinion on what you would all like to see for DTL 0.2, which I hope to
release sometime next week. The options
 are:
 
 - More comprehensive examples using current containers
 - Documentation of the current containers (via Doxygen)
 - D-ising the syntax (i.e. collect_with => collectWith. etc.) of the current
containers
 - A first attempt at "The Spirit of DTL" document, so everyone can grok my
vision (or carp on about it.<g>)
 - Set template being implemented
 - Parameterised interfaces (currently looks like I've a linker bug, but Walter
says he'll lend a hand, so it's doable)
 - Propagating composable transformations to all current containers
 
 - or any other things I've not thought of.
 
 Remembering I'm a little tight right now, please put them in prioritised order
if you make multiple
 requests/suggestions.
 
 Cheers
 
 Matthew

"Matthew" <admin.hat stlsoft.dot.org> writes:

"teqDruid" <me teqdruid.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.08.04.19.28.28.871845 teqdruid.com...
 For myself, implementation of Set is a higher priority than the other
 things you list.


Done!

I should be uploading DTL 0.2 in the next couple of days.

 John

 On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 16:01:33 +1000, Matthew wrote:

 As I've got very limited time at the moment, but intend to keep up the
momentum with DTL now it's rolling, I wanted




 canvas opinion on what you would all like to see for DTL 0.2, which I hope to
release sometime next week. The




 are:

 - More comprehensive examples using current containers
 - Documentation of the current containers (via Doxygen)
 - D-ising the syntax (i.e. collect_with => collectWith. etc.) of the current
containers
 - A first attempt at "The Spirit of DTL" document, so everyone can grok my
vision (or carp on about it.<g>)
 - Set template being implemented
 - Parameterised interfaces (currently looks like I've a linker bug, but Walter
says he'll lend a hand, so it's




 - Propagating composable transformations to all current containers

 - or any other things I've not thought of.

 Remembering I'm a little tight right now, please put them in prioritised order
if you make multiple
 requests/suggestions.

 Cheers

 Matthew

Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> writes:

"The Spirit of DTL" might be a good start.  It would probably make 
constructive criticism that much more constructive :)


Sean

"Ivan Senji" <ivan.senji public.srce.hr> writes:

Set template, and please change collect to transform, because in my English
dictionarry it says for collect: "bring a number of things together" and
what collect
really is doing is transforming!
"The Spirit of DTL" would be nice too.

"Matthew" <admin stlsoft.dot.dot.dot.dot.org> wrote in message
news:cepu4l$1vr1$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 As I've got very limited time at the moment, but intend to keep up the


 canvas opinion on what you would all like to see for DTL 0.2, which I hope


 are:

 - More comprehensive examples using current containers
 - Documentation of the current containers (via Doxygen)
 - D-ising the syntax (i.e. collect_with => collectWith. etc.) of the


 - A first attempt at "The Spirit of DTL" document, so everyone can grok my


 - Set template being implemented
 - Parameterised interfaces (currently looks like I've a linker bug, but


 - Propagating composable transformations to all current containers

 - or any other things I've not thought of.

 Remembering I'm a little tight right now, please put them in prioritised


 requests/suggestions.

 Cheers

 Matthew

Andy Friesen <andy ikagames.com> writes:

Ivan Senji wrote:
 Set template, and please change collect to transform, because in my English
 dictionarry it says for collect: "bring a number of things together" and
 what collect
 really is doing is transforming!
 "The Spirit of DTL" would be nice too.


I agree.  At first glance, I thought it meant what Python calls a 
filter. (what DTL calls select(), I think: Iterate over only those 
elements which satisfy some condition)

I think 'transform' or 'apply' would probably make more sense.

  -- andy

Juanjo =?ISO-8859-15?Q?=C1lvarez?= <juanjuxNO SPAMyahoo.es> writes:

Andy Friesen wrote:

 I think 'transform' or 'apply' would probably make more sense.


+1 vote for transform (but I already said that before :)

"Matthew" <admin.hat stlsoft.dot.org> writes:

"Ivan Senji" <ivan.senji public.srce.hr> wrote in message
news:cesrjr$1adr$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Set template,


Done

and please change collect to transform, because in my English
 dictionarry it says for collect: "bring a number of things together" and
 what collect
 really is doing is transforming!


Done

 "The Spirit of DTL" would be nice too.


Not (yet) done. ;)

I'll be uploading 0.2 in next day or so


 "Matthew" <admin stlsoft.dot.dot.dot.dot.org> wrote in message
 news:cepu4l$1vr1$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 As I've got very limited time at the moment, but intend to keep up the


 canvas opinion on what you would all like to see for DTL 0.2, which I hope


 are:

 - More comprehensive examples using current containers
 - Documentation of the current containers (via Doxygen)
 - D-ising the syntax (i.e. collect_with => collectWith. etc.) of the


 - A first attempt at "The Spirit of DTL" document, so everyone can grok my


 - Set template being implemented
 - Parameterised interfaces (currently looks like I've a linker bug, but


 - Propagating composable transformations to all current containers

 - or any other things I've not thought of.

 Remembering I'm a little tight right now, please put them in prioritised


 requests/suggestions.

 Cheers

 Matthew

"Lynn Allan" <l_d_allan adelphia.net> writes:

 - A first attempt at "The Spirit of DTL" document,
 so everyone can grok my vision (or carp on about it.<g>)


We're kind of overloaded on the amount of glarking involved  :-)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=glark

"Matthew" <admin.hat stlsoft.dot.org> writes:

"Lynn Allan" <l_d_allan adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:ch5itq$2ou6$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 - A first attempt at "The Spirit of DTL" document,
 so everyone can grok my vision (or carp on about it.<g>)


 We're kind of overloaded on the amount of glarking involved  :-)
 http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=glark


Huh?

"Lynn Allan" <l_d_allan adelphia.net> writes:

"Matthew" <admin.hat stlsoft.dot.org> wrote in message 
news:ch5mba$2q6i$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 "Lynn Allan" <l_d_allan adelphia.net> wrote in message 
 news:ch5itq$2ou6$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 - A first attempt at "The Spirit of DTL" document,
 so everyone can grok my vision (or carp on about it.<g>)


 We're kind of overloaded on the amount of glarking involved  :-)
 http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=glark


 Huh?



I think this "elderly newbie" may have misposted. I came across 'glark' 
while looking up the meaning of 'grok'.

Gold Dragon <dragonwing dragonu.net> writes:

You really should read "Stranger in a Strange World." It is a really good book
that deals with 
religion, sense of self, and other things. Before I read it, I started thinking
of what if all the 
religions were correct and if all the religions had a place in heaven or if we
humans created our 
own place in the after life. Well, it wasn't that sorted out but after reading
the book, the 
solution of what I was thinking about at the time became clear. I highly doubt
the writer actually 
believes in his ideology. It is really interesting in the amount of ideas in
it. I can't say I 
understand or grok everything in the book but it makes you think long after you
read it. Changes 
your perspective on somethings and maybe opens your mind to other ideas. Could
debate and talk it 
about forever but it has been a long time since I have read it (about two
years).

In the book, it lists different literal meanings and I was sure one of them was
"to eat". It was 
listed on Dictionary.com that it is literally, "To drink," I don't know where
it is in the text so 
I'm not going to search for it on if I'm right or wrong. Just means to
understand something to the 
fullest or ponder some topic to comprehension.

 I think this "elderly newbie" may have misposted. I came across 'glark' 
 while looking up the meaning of 'grok'.

"Lynn Allan" <l_d_allan adelphia.net> writes:

 own place in the after life. Well, it wasn't that sorted out but after 
 reading the book, the solution of what I was thinking about at the time 
 became clear. I highly doubt the writer actually believes in his ideology. 
 It is really interesting in the amount of ideas in it. I can't say I 
 understand or grok everything in the book but it makes you think long 
 after you read it.


Fascinating .. I've tended to be more of an engineer that a scientist. Have 
you have further thoughts on those kind of spiritual matters?  Getting 
closer to being able to "grok" everything? :-)

Perhaps continue this thread offline?

Lynn Allan
l_d_allan adelphia.net