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digitalmars.D - defunct / stale forums on front page

reply "Laeeth Isharc" <laeethnospam nospamlaeeth.com> writes:
When one checks out the D community / forums, one is confronted 
with a long list of forums, most of which fall into the 
categories: not relating to D, defunct, very low activity.

This is initially a bit confusing, and is not very crisp.

Is it worth having only the active ones displayed with a link 
saying "looking for the old digital mars forums, or previous D 
forums?  click here"?
Jan 25 2015
next sibling parent reply Rikki Cattermole <alphaglosined gmail.com> writes:
On 26/01/2015 11:41 a.m., Laeeth Isharc wrote:
 When one checks out the D community / forums, one is confronted with a
 long list of forums, most of which fall into the categories: not
 relating to D, defunct, very low activity.

 This is initially a bit confusing, and is not very crisp.

 Is it worth having only the active ones displayed with a link saying
 "looking for the old digital mars forums, or previous D forums?  click
 here"?
We could probably hide them with some css and javascript. I'm not familiar with DFeed to actually do it though.
Jan 25 2015
parent reply "Laeeth Isharc" <laeethnospam nospamlaeeth.com> writes:
On Sunday, 25 January 2015 at 22:45:53 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
wrote:
 On 26/01/2015 11:41 a.m., Laeeth Isharc wrote:
 When one checks out the D community / forums, one is 
 confronted with a
 long list of forums, most of which fall into the categories: 
 not
 relating to D, defunct, very low activity.

 This is initially a bit confusing, and is not very crisp.

 Is it worth having only the active ones displayed with a link 
 saying
 "looking for the old digital mars forums, or previous D 
 forums?  click
 here"?
We could probably hide them with some css and javascript. I'm not familiar with DFeed to actually do it though.
why not just edit the forum source ?
Jan 25 2015
parent reply Rikki Cattermole <alphaglosined gmail.com> writes:
On 26/01/2015 12:42 p.m., Laeeth Isharc wrote:
 On Sunday, 25 January 2015 at 22:45:53 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
 On 26/01/2015 11:41 a.m., Laeeth Isharc wrote:
 When one checks out the D community / forums, one is confronted with a
 long list of forums, most of which fall into the categories: not
 relating to D, defunct, very low activity.

 This is initially a bit confusing, and is not very crisp.

 Is it worth having only the active ones displayed with a link saying
 "looking for the old digital mars forums, or previous D forums?  click
 here"?
We could probably hide them with some css and javascript. I'm not familiar with DFeed to actually do it though.
why not just edit the forum source ?
Its not a forum. Its a news group web interface. Which just so happens to be DFeed.
Jan 25 2015
parent reply "Laeeth Isharc" <Laeeth.nospam nospam-laeeth.com> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 01:55:32 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
wrote:
 On 26/01/2015 12:42 p.m., Laeeth Isharc wrote:
 On Sunday, 25 January 2015 at 22:45:53 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
 wrote:
 On 26/01/2015 11:41 a.m., Laeeth Isharc wrote:
 When one checks out the D community / forums, one is 
 confronted with a
 long list of forums, most of which fall into the categories: 
 not
 relating to D, defunct, very low activity.

 This is initially a bit confusing, and is not very crisp.

 Is it worth having only the active ones displayed with a 
 link saying
 "looking for the old digital mars forums, or previous D 
 forums?  click
 here"?
We could probably hide them with some css and javascript. I'm not familiar with DFeed to actually do it though.
why not just edit the forum source ?
Its not a forum. Its a news group web interface. Which just so happens to be DFeed.
I regret the imprecision with which I spoke, but it does not change what seems to be the best way to fix it. Imagine you move from a javascript browser to one without - very confusing to see the forums change names (if I understood correctly). Sounds like that is what Herr Alexandrescu had in mind too with the related pull.
Jan 25 2015
parent reply ketmar <ketmar ketmar.no-ip.org> writes:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:00:01 +0000, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

 Imagine you move from a javascript browser to one without
dlang.org is imfunctional without js, so there is no sense to make=20 anything else working right without js.=
Jan 25 2015
parent reply "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 02:13:44 UTC, ketmar wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:00:01 +0000, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

 Imagine you move from a javascript browser to one without
dlang.org is imfunctional without js, so there is no sense to make anything else working right without js.
dlang.org should work just fine without JS. Same goes for the forums, but of course you won't be able to use the JS-powered horizontal-split view mode.
Jan 25 2015
next sibling parent "Laeeth Isharc" <laeethnospam nospamlaeeth.com> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 02:36:30 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:
 On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 02:13:44 UTC, ketmar wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:00:01 +0000, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

 Imagine you move from a javascript browser to one without
dlang.org is imfunctional without js, so there is no sense to make anything else working right without js.
dlang.org should work just fine without JS. Same goes for the forums, but of course you won't be able to use the JS-powered horizontal-split view mode.
Understood - I meant in relation to this: "We could probably hide them with some css and javascript. I'm not familiar with DFeed to actually do it though."
Jan 25 2015
prev sibling parent reply ketmar <ketmar ketmar.no-ip.org> writes:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:36:29 +0000, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 02:13:44 UTC, ketmar wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:00:01 +0000, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

 Imagine you move from a javascript browser to one without
dlang.org is imfunctional without js, so there is no sense to make anything else working right without js.
=20 dlang.org should work just fine without JS. Same goes for the forums, but of course you won't be able to use the JS-powered horizontal-split view mode.
yet it doesn't work: side menu is not working anymore, which renders=20 dlang.org completely unusable for me.=
Jan 25 2015
parent reply "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 03:14:00 UTC, ketmar wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:36:29 +0000, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 02:13:44 UTC, ketmar wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:00:01 +0000, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

 Imagine you move from a javascript browser to one without
dlang.org is imfunctional without js, so there is no sense to make anything else working right without js.
dlang.org should work just fine without JS. Same goes for the forums, but of course you won't be able to use the JS-powered horizontal-split view mode.
yet it doesn't work: side menu is not working anymore, which renders dlang.org completely unusable for me.
Everything works for me. The menu is completely expanded without JS, providing access to all areas of the website. Please explain what exactly doesn't work.
Jan 25 2015
next sibling parent reply ketmar <ketmar ketmar.no-ip.org> writes:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 03:17:54 +0000, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 03:14:00 UTC, ketmar wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:36:29 +0000, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 02:13:44 UTC, ketmar wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:00:01 +0000, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

 Imagine you move from a javascript browser to one without
dlang.org is imfunctional without js, so there is no sense to make anything else working right without js.
=20 dlang.org should work just fine without JS. Same goes for the forums, but of course you won't be able to use the JS-powered horizontal-split view mode.
yet it doesn't work: side menu is not working anymore, which renders dlang.org completely unusable for me.
=20 Everything works for me. The menu is completely expanded without JS, providing access to all areas of the website. =20 Please explain what exactly doesn't work.
it's collapsed by default, and there is no way to expand it. http://ketmar.no-ip.org/2015-01-26-05-24-35_809x525.png i don't really know what goes wrong there, nor i want to investigate the=20 issue. maybe it's due to blocked google sites (same origin policy+strict=20 "no requests to google" policy) plus flawed script blocker which misses=20 some page scripts that using jquery, just enough to collapse the menu,=20 but not enough to expand it. the fact is that previous version was=20 working just fine and new one is completely broken.=
Jan 25 2015
parent reply "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 03:31:15 UTC, ketmar wrote:
 i don't really know what goes wrong there, nor i want to 
 investigate the
 issue. maybe it's due to blocked google sites (same origin 
 policy+strict
 "no requests to google" policy) plus flawed script blocker 
 which misses
 some page scripts that using jquery, just enough to collapse 
 the menu,
 but not enough to expand it. the fact is that previous version 
 was
 working just fine and new one is completely broken.
I see. Your issue is not that JS is disabled, it is that you are selectively blocking components of the webpage. As with any system, it is not unusual that it stops working as designed when you rip out arbitrary parts of it. I see no reason to support such a configuration in principle, but for this particular case, I think the fix will be simple.
Jan 25 2015
next sibling parent ketmar <ketmar ketmar.no-ip.org> writes:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 03:35:02 +0000, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 I see. Your issue is not that JS is disabled, it is that you are
 selectively blocking components of the webpage.
=20
 As with any system, it is not unusual that it stops working as designed
 when you rip out arbitrary parts of it.

 I see no reason to support such a configuration in principle, but for
 this particular case, I think the fix will be simple.
yet there is increasing movement towards "same origin policy" as a part=20 of overall privacy concerns, so i believe that such things will start=20 popping up here and there.=
Jan 25 2015
prev sibling parent reply "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 03:35:03 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:
 I see no reason to support such a configuration in principle, 
 but for this particular case, I think the fix will be simple.
Actually, I take that back. There are good reasons to support such a situation, the biggest of which is that Google CDNs are blocked in China: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14004 https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/847
Jan 25 2015
parent reply "H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d" <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 03:54:10AM +0000, Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
 On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 03:35:03 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
I see no reason to support such a configuration in principle, but for
this particular case, I think the fix will be simple.
Actually, I take that back. There are good reasons to support such a situation, the biggest of which is that Google CDNs are blocked in China: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14004 https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/847
I think we should just import jquery into the dlang.org repo. External dependencies always end up in these kinds of ugly situations. T -- MASM = Mana Ada Sistem, Man!
Jan 25 2015
parent reply Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:
On 2015-01-26 08:35, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 I think we should just import jquery into the dlang.org repo. External
 dependencies always end up in these kinds of ugly situations.
The advantage of using a CDN is that browser will most likely already have loaded, in this case jQuery, from another page you already have visited. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Jan 26 2015
parent reply "Laeeth Isharc" <Laeeth.nospam nospam-laeeth.com> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 09:08:26 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
 On 2015-01-26 08:35, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 I think we should just import jquery into the dlang.org repo. 
 External
 dependencies always end up in these kinds of ugly situations.
The advantage of using a CDN is that browser will most likely already have loaded, in this case jQuery, from another page you already have visited.
Two thoughts. 1. You could have a special handling for China and other countries that ban google. 2. See here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1014203/best-way-to-use-googles-hosted-jquery-but-fall-back-to-my-hosted-library-on-go
Jan 26 2015
parent "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 18:46:58 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
 On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 09:08:26 UTC, Jacob Carlborg 
 wrote:
 On 2015-01-26 08:35, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 I think we should just import jquery into the dlang.org repo. 
 External
 dependencies always end up in these kinds of ugly situations.
The advantage of using a CDN is that browser will most likely already have loaded, in this case jQuery, from another page you already have visited.
Two thoughts. 1. You could have a special handling for China and other countries that ban google. 2. See here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1014203/best-way-to-use-googles-hosted-jquery-but-fall-back-to-my-hosted-library-on-go
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/847
Jan 26 2015
prev sibling parent reply "Kiith-Sa" <kiithsacmp gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 03:17:55 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:
 On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 03:14:00 UTC, ketmar wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:36:29 +0000, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 02:13:44 UTC, ketmar wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:00:01 +0000, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

 Imagine you move from a javascript browser to one without
dlang.org is imfunctional without js, so there is no sense to make anything else working right without js.
dlang.org should work just fine without JS. Same goes for the forums, but of course you won't be able to use the JS-powered horizontal-split view mode.
yet it doesn't work: side menu is not working anymore, which renders dlang.org completely unusable for me.
Everything works for me. The menu is completely expanded without JS, providing access to all areas of the website. Please explain what exactly doesn't work.
It's broken if dlang.org is allowed yet ajax.googleapis.com is disallowed. Thus anyone who blocks google yet has dlang.org enabled (e.g. for the links in docs) is unable to use the menus.
Jan 25 2015
parent reply "H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d" <digitalmars-d puremagic.com> writes:
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 03:34:56AM +0000, Kiith-Sa via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 03:17:55 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 03:14:00 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:36:29 +0000, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 02:13:44 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:00:01 +0000, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

Imagine you move from a javascript browser to one without
dlang.org is imfunctional without js, so there is no sense to make anything else working right without js.
dlang.org should work just fine without JS. Same goes for the forums, but of course you won't be able to use the JS-powered horizontal-split view mode.
yet it doesn't work: side menu is not working anymore, which renders dlang.org completely unusable for me.
Everything works for me. The menu is completely expanded without JS, providing access to all areas of the website. Please explain what exactly doesn't work.
It's broken if dlang.org is allowed yet ajax.googleapis.com is disallowed. Thus anyone who blocks google yet has dlang.org enabled (e.g. for the links in docs) is unable to use the menus.
Shouldn't it be expanded by default and collapsed if JS is available? T -- Doubt is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Jan 25 2015
parent reply ketmar <ketmar ketmar.no-ip.org> writes:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 19:37:00 -0800, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 Shouldn't it be expanded by default and collapsed if JS is available?
my uneducated guess is that "collapser" is not using jquery, so it was=20 able to successfully collaspe the whole thing. and then "expander" is=20 using jquery, so it failed.=
Jan 25 2015
parent reply "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 03:43:53 UTC, ketmar wrote:
 On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 19:37:00 -0800, H. S. Teoh via 
 Digitalmars-d wrote:

 Shouldn't it be expanded by default and collapsed if JS is 
 available?
my uneducated guess is that "collapser" is not using jquery, so it was able to successfully collaspe the whole thing. and then "expander" is using jquery, so it failed.
Actually, we inject a CSS rule based on whether JS is enabled or not. We can't check for jQuery there because its loading is deferred.
Jan 25 2015
next sibling parent ketmar <ketmar ketmar.no-ip.org> writes:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 03:56:36 +0000, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 03:43:53 UTC, ketmar wrote:
 On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 19:37:00 -0800, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 Shouldn't it be expanded by default and collapsed if JS is available?
my uneducated guess is that "collapser" is not using jquery, so it was able to successfully collaspe the whole thing. and then "expander" is using jquery, so it failed.
=20 Actually, we inject a CSS rule based on whether JS is enabled or not. We can't check for jQuery there because its loading is deferred.
and there is no fully working method to check if js is disabled.=20 "noscript" tag is not reliable, 'cause people tend to use all kind of=20 blockers these days, and some of that blockers can be flawed. and then=20 people will complain that "this site is not working with javascript=20 disabled", while js is technically not disabled, but restricted in some=20 way. sadly, i don't know a good solution to this.=
Jan 25 2015
prev sibling parent reply "Laeeth Isharc" <Laeeth.nospam nospam-laeeth.com> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 03:56:37 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:
 
Hi. This thread turned to topics of higher importance than mere cosmetics. Few miscellaneous thoughts. Why not create a bugzilla section for website and forum so it is easier to report glitches and enhancement requests in a way that you will quickly see without distraction? (Andralex posted to general D section in bugzilla, but was black holed till this thread came up). Secondly, I was browsing old forum messages and got this error. I am amazed by the lean elegant power of dfeed source code - coming from C, I keep wondering where the rest of it is - but maybe as D matures it is worth the trouble to beautify reports like the following. (It should say something like "Sorry - that message has been deleted. Click here to go back to the previous screen). I thought of making a pull, but I am guessing however I write it at my level of experience will not fit with the gestalt of how you would do things. Let me know of I am wrong, and will do so next time if I get the chance. Incidentally, although it is common sense for experienced programmers, how about linking in the learning D section to suggest that people review the following showcase D projects to learn idiomatic D? Later, someone with the inclination could add some commentary. P0nce and others are doing a great job setting out small idiomatic D snippets, but we could do more on explaining how to write larger patterns. http://forum.dlang.org/post/nchvayzsbrzevvucmmmi Post not found web.NotFoundException web.d(2502): Post not found ---------------- /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(ae.net.http.common.HttpResponse web.WebUI.handleRequest(ae.net.http.common.HttpRequest, ae.net.http.server.HttpServerConnection)+0x1eb0) [0x6c4e28] /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(void web.WebUI.onRequest(ae.net.http.common.HttpRequest, ae.net.http.server.HttpServerConnection)+0x71) [0x6c29e1] /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(void ae.net.http.server.HttpServerConnection.processRequest(ae.sy .data.Data[])+0x72) [0x6e759a] /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(void ae.net.http.server.HttpServerConnection.onNewRequest(ae.sys.data.Data)+0x36a) [0x6e72ca] /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(void ae.net.asockets.ConnectionAdapter.onReadData(ae.sys.data.Data)+0x8d) [0x6e495d] /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(void ae.net.asockets.TimeoutAdapter.onReadData(ae.sys.data.Data)+0x8f) [0x6e55c7] /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(void ae.net.asockets.TcpConnection.onReadable()+0x232) [0x6e2a2a] /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(void ae.net.asockets.SocketManager.handleEvent(std.socket.SocketSet, std.socket.SocketSet, std.socket.SocketSet)+0xd8) [0x6e1c58] /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(void ae.net.asockets.SocketManager.loop()+0x52a) [0x6e1ad2] /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(_Dmain+0x219) [0x634f79] /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(_D2rt6dmain211_d_run_mainUiPPaPUAAaZiZ6runAllMFZ __lambda1MFZv+0x25) [0x771e99] /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(void rt.dmain2._d_run_main(int, char**, extern (C) int function(char[][])*).tryExec(scope void delegate())+0x60) [0x771dfc] /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(void rt.dmain2._d_run_main(int, char**, extern (C) int function(char[][])*).runAll()+0x36) [0x771e42] /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(void rt.dmain2._d_run_main(int, char**, extern (C) int function(char[][])*).tryExec(scope void delegate())+0x60) [0x771dfc] /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(_d_run_main+0x22a) [0x771d46] /home/dfeed/DFeed/dfeed(main+0x25) [0x6b2a15] /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xf5) [0x3a974320ec5] Thirdly: I get the sense that the search features in the old digitalmars web front end are slightly more powerful than at dlang.org. And it is easier to browse by year etc. Could we add to list to match them / provide the standard set of features that google groups offers ? Laeeth
Jan 26 2015
parent reply "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 18:41:09 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
 Why not create a bugzilla section for website and forum so it 
 is easier to report glitches and enhancement requests in a way 
 that you will quickly see without distraction?
Bugzilla has a "Website" component.
 It should say something like "Sorry - that message has been 
 deleted.
That link doesn't look valid. A Message-ID should have an character.
 http://forum.dlang.org/post/nchvayzsbrzevvucmmmi
You are probably looking for: http://forum.dlang.org/post/nchvayzsbrzevvucmmmi forum.dlang.org
 web.NotFoundException web.d(2502): Post not found
This is due to temporarily building DFeed in debug mode, to diagnose a bug. Fixed now.
Jan 26 2015
parent "Laeeth Isharc" <laeethnospam nospamlaeeth.com> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 20:08:44 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:
 On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 18:41:09 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
 Why not create a bugzilla section for website and forum so it 
 is easier to report glitches and enhancement requests in a way 
 that you will quickly see without distraction?
Bugzilla has a "Website" component.
 It should say something like "Sorry - that message has been 
 deleted.
That link doesn't look valid. A Message-ID should have an character.
 http://forum.dlang.org/post/nchvayzsbrzevvucmmmi
You are probably looking for: http://forum.dlang.org/post/nchvayzsbrzevvucmmmi forum.dlang.org
 web.NotFoundException web.d(2502): Post not found
This is due to temporarily building DFeed in debug mode, to diagnose a bug. Fixed now.
Thanks.
Jan 26 2015
prev sibling parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 1/25/15 2:41 PM, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
 When one checks out the D community / forums, one is confronted with a
 long list of forums, most of which fall into the categories: not
 relating to D, defunct, very low activity.

 This is initially a bit confusing, and is not very crisp.

 Is it worth having only the active ones displayed with a link saying
 "looking for the old digital mars forums, or previous D forums?  click
 here"?
Related: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14045 Andrei
Jan 25 2015
parent "Laeeth Isharc" <Laeeth.nospam nospam-laeeth.com> writes:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 00:29:34 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 On 1/25/15 2:41 PM, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
 When one checks out the D community / forums, one is 
 confronted with a
 long list of forums, most of which fall into the categories: 
 not
 relating to D, defunct, very low activity.

 This is initially a bit confusing, and is not very crisp.

 Is it worth having only the active ones displayed with a link 
 saying
 "looking for the old digital mars forums, or previous D 
 forums?  click
 here"?
Related: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14045 Andrei
Should the newsgroups themselves be renamed? I don't know nntp, or what the implications of that are - presumably that breaks everyone's reader and so not worth the trouble since only experienced people will read the groups that way, and so just the web alias changes, which is I think what you suggested.
Jan 25 2015