digitalmars.D.debugger - Debuggers for D
- Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> Feb 26 2007
- Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> Feb 26 2007
- Hasan Aljudy <hasan.aljudy gmail.com> Feb 26 2007
- Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> Feb 26 2007
- John Demme <me teqdruid.com> Feb 26 2007
- Cristian Vlasceanu <cristian zero-bugs.com> Feb 26 2007
- John Demme <me teqdruid.com> Feb 27 2007
- Ary Manzana <ary esperanto.org.ar> Feb 27 2007
- Jascha Wetzel <"[firstname]" mainia.de> Feb 27 2007
- Michael Coupland <mcoupland gmail.com> Jan 26 2008
- Ary Borenszweig <ary esperanto.org.ar> Jan 28 2008
- Howard Berkey <howard well.com> Feb 26 2007
- Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> Feb 26 2007
- jcc7 <technocrat7 gmail.com> Feb 27 2007
This newsgroup is for discussions about debuggers for D with at least some D specific support: 1) Cristi Vlasceanu's ZeroBUGS for Linux: http://www.zerobugs.org/ 2) Jascha Wetzel's Ddbg for Windows: http://ddbg.mainia.de/releases.html 3) gdb modified to debug D: http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/gdb.html http://svn.dsource.org/projects/gdb-patches/downloads/ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=135857&package_id=223105 4) DigDug http://www.dsource.org/projects/digdug/ 5) Wiki http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?DebugEnvironments
Feb 26 2007
Walter Bright wrote:This newsgroup is for discussions about debuggers for D with at least some D specific support: 1) Cristi Vlasceanu's ZeroBUGS for Linux: http://www.zerobugs.org/
D support is still vapor as far as I know? Couldn't find anything mentioned on the web page.2) Jascha Wetzel's Ddbg for Windows: http://ddbg.mainia.de/releases.html
Yeah!3) gdb modified to debug D: http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/gdb.html http://svn.dsource.org/projects/gdb-patches/downloads/ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=135857&package_id=223105 4) DigDug http://www.dsource.org/projects/digdug/
Looks like vapor too.5) Wiki http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?DebugEnvironments
Don't forget everyone's favorite pre-bundled D-ready fully crash-enabled debugger for Windows 6) WinDbg! http://www.digitalmars.com/d/windbg.html --bb
Feb 26 2007
Honestly .. the only one that counts (at least as of now) is this: http://ddbg.mainia.de/releases.html
Feb 26 2007
Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> Hasan Aljudy wrote:Honestly .. the only one that counts (at least as of now) is this: http://ddbg.mainia.de/releases.html
possibilities. I suspect this newsgroup is intended more to be a place where it's ok to go back and forth ad infinitum about CODEVIEW esoterica without worrying about annoying everyone on the main forum. --bb
Feb 26 2007
Bill Baxter wrote:Walter Bright wrote:This newsgroup is for discussions about debuggers for D with at least some D specific support: 1) Cristi Vlasceanu's ZeroBUGS for Linux: http://www.zerobugs.org/
D support is still vapor as far as I know? Couldn't find anything mentioned on the web page.
He doesn't mention it on the website, but there is some limited support for D. I've been working with it a bit today. Unfortunately, when it comes to debugging D code on Linux it's hard to label a debugger as vaporware when in fact "dmd -g" is vaporware. I can't tell what's the debugger's fault and what DMD either isn't doing or is doing wrong. Hell, #146 is still open! I'm pretty sure that a fair of the linenumber and file information is wrong, and most symbols don't appear in the DWARF information. I don't mind sounding like a broken record when I say that I'd be very, very happy if the next DMD had real Linux debugging support. According to Critian, it's not too hard to do with libdwarf. -- ~John Demme me teqdruid.com http://www.teqdruid.com/
Feb 26 2007
John Demme wrote:Bill Baxter wrote:Walter Bright wrote:This newsgroup is for discussions about debuggers for D with at least some D specific support: 1) Cristi Vlasceanu's ZeroBUGS for Linux: http://www.zerobugs.org/
mentioned on the web page.
He doesn't mention it on the website, but there is some limited support for D. I've been working with it a bit today. Unfortunately, when it comes to debugging D code on Linux it's hard to label a debugger as vaporware when in fact "dmd -g" is vaporware. I can't tell what's the debugger's fault and what DMD either isn't doing or is doing wrong. Hell, #146 is still open! I'm pretty sure that a fair of the linenumber and file information is wrong, and most symbols don't appear in the DWARF information. I don't mind sounding like a broken record when I say that I'd be very, very happy if the next DMD had real Linux debugging support. According to Critian, it's not too hard to do with libdwarf.
numbers. Which BTW, work with GDC. Indeed, the only place I alluded to D is on the zero-bugs.com FAQ page. Thomas Kuehne has graciously contributed a D demangler, the Dmain function and the dthrow are detected, but that's about it so far. I hope to get the D support in a better shape as soon as we fix this line numbers show stopper problem.
Feb 26 2007
Cristian Vlasceanu wrote:John Demme wrote:Bill Baxter wrote:Walter Bright wrote:This newsgroup is for discussions about debuggers for D with at least some D specific support: 1) Cristi Vlasceanu's ZeroBUGS for Linux: http://www.zerobugs.org/
mentioned on the web page.
He doesn't mention it on the website, but there is some limited support for D. I've been working with it a bit today. Unfortunately, when it comes to debugging D code on Linux it's hard to label a debugger as vaporware when in fact "dmd -g" is vaporware. I can't tell what's the debugger's fault and what DMD either isn't doing or is doing wrong. Hell, #146 is still open! I'm pretty sure that a fair of the linenumber and file information is wrong, and most symbols don't appear in the DWARF information. I don't mind sounding like a broken record when I say that I'd be very, very happy if the next DMD had real Linux debugging support. According to Critian, it's not too hard to do with libdwarf.
numbers. Which BTW, work with GDC. Indeed, the only place I alluded to D is on the zero-bugs.com FAQ page. Thomas Kuehne has graciously contributed a D demangler, the Dmain function and the dthrow are detected, but that's about it so far. I hope to get the D support in a better shape as soon as we fix this line numbers show stopper problem.
Great! While you're at it, and Walter's knee deep in DWARF output, can you nudge him in the direction of fixing bug #146? If you're doing any template programming--and I do a--it's a debugging show stopper, also. Thanks for your work with D! -- ~John Demme me teqdruid.com http://www.teqdruid.com/
Feb 27 2007
John Demme wrote:I'm pretty sure that a fair of the linenumber and file information is wrong
Imagine when mixins will come into play. What line and number information can be recorded for symbols generated at compile time? :-O
Feb 27 2007
it wouldn't make any sense to assign any line other than the one of the mixin statement. hence this isn't much of a problem. DMD for windows assigns the line following the mixin statement to the code. well, kind of... it looks a bit like the current behaviour is not intended. Ary Manzana wrote:John Demme wrote:I'm pretty sure that a fair of the linenumber and file information is wrong
Imagine when mixins will come into play. What line and number information can be recorded for symbols generated at compile time? :-O
Feb 27 2007
In an ideal world there would also be a full "stack trace" of information where the mixin was used... The more complex metaprogramming becomes, the more important it is to be able to (easily!) debug the compilation process itself. I don't pay too close attention to the D community, and clearly runtime debugging support is a higher priority, but is mixin/template/metaprogramming debugging on anyone's radar at all? It's nice to have powerful metaprogramming support in D, but if the only way to debug a wacky template is via compiler error messages, it's just as bad as having to debug a normal program only using crash stack traces. Jascha Wetzel wrote:it wouldn't make any sense to assign any line other than the one of the mixin statement. hence this isn't much of a problem. DMD for windows assigns the line following the mixin statement to the code. well, kind of... it looks a bit like the current behaviour is not intended. Ary Manzana wrote:John Demme wrote:I'm pretty sure that a fair of the linenumber and file information is wrong
information can be recorded for symbols generated at compile time? :-O
Jan 26 2008
Michael Coupland wrote:In an ideal world there would also be a full "stack trace" of information where the mixin was used... The more complex metaprogramming becomes, the more important it is to be able to (easily!) debug the compilation process itself. I don't pay too close attention to the D community, and clearly runtime debugging support is a higher priority, but is mixin/template/metaprogramming debugging on anyone's radar at all?
Descent could do this in a future. I think it isn't hard, but it'll take its time.
Jan 28 2008
Bill Baxter Wrote:Walter Bright wrote:This newsgroup is for discussions about debuggers for D with at least some D specific support: 1) Cristi Vlasceanu's ZeroBUGS for Linux: http://www.zerobugs.org/
D support is still vapor as far as I know? Couldn't find anything mentioned on the web page.
I was about to ask about that. It looks like a great debugger, but I didn't know it had D-specific support yet. Howard
Feb 26 2007
Hasan Aljudy wrote:Honestly .. the only one that counts (at least as of now) is this: http://ddbg.mainia.de/releases.html
As long as it's windows only, I don't see how you can say that. I don't do any windows development and can't see doing any in the foreseeable future. Later, Brad
Feb 26 2007
== Quote from Bill Baxter (dnewsgroup billbaxter.com)'s articleWalter Bright wrote:This newsgroup is for discussions about debuggers for D with at least some D specific support: 1) Cristi Vlasceanu's ZeroBUGS for Linux: http://www.zerobugs.org/
mentioned on the web page.
...4) DigDug http://www.dsource.org/projects/digdug/
FWIW, DigDug is more "abandonware" than "vaporware". (See http://www.dsource.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=153) And for the very curious, the code and a Windows binary are still available, too: http://svn.dsource.org/projects/digdug/ jcc7
Feb 27 2007