• zsxxsz <zhengshuxin hexun.com> May 14 2009
• novice2 <sorry noem.ail> May 15 2009
• =?iso-8859-1?Q?Robert_M=2E_M=FCnch?= <robert.muench robertmuench.de> May 15 2009
• zsxxsz <zhengshuxin hexun.com> May 15 2009
• "Tim Matthews" <tim.matthews7 gmail.com> May 15 2009

zsxxsz <zhengshuxin hexun.com> writes:

I think D is one excellent programming langauge, but there are some
disadvantage of D currently.
First, there are no one good IDE for D, such as Eclipse for java, MS visual
studio for .net, although there are some IDE for D, but they are all simple
and ugly, so I still write D with vim.
Second, there are no many useful Libs(except the basic Phobos) and server
frameworks written for D, which can speed up our efficiency  of write
application. Although tango has done some works for D1, these aren't enough.
(When I wrote server programs on Unix, I often used one server framework which
were got from Postfix, supporting many server modes).
Third, there are no good application written by D such as Nginx, Squid, BDB,
Postfix, Mysql, Sqlite, Postgresql, Tomcat, Hibenate, Spring, etc.
Fourth, the D2's stablity is also another one, someone maybe say this one is
the reason of all the above, but I don't think we should complain about this
overmuch like tango team. We should all
Of course, all the disadvantages above may be solved in future, these are just
the time problems.
zsxxsz

novice2 <sorry noem.ail> writes:

zsxxsz Wrote:

 I think D is one excellent programming langauge, but there are some
 disadvantage of D currently.


i am sorry, but i can't understand the pupose of this message in
digitalmars.D.announce.

even if will be moved into other group, such messages so offten and comes so
many years...

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Robert_M=2E_M=FCnch?= <robert.muench robertmuench.de> writes:

On Fri, 15 May 2009 04:13:06 +0200, zsxxsz <zhengshuxin hexun.com> wrote:

 [...]
 Of course, all the disadvantages above may be solved in future, these  
 are just the time problems.


Well, and what do you do to help to solve these?

-- 
Robert M. Münch
Management & IT Freelancer
http://www.robertmuench.de

zsxxsz <zhengshuxin hexun.com> writes:

¡ù ÒýÊö Robert_M._Münch (robert.muench robertmuench.de) Ö®ÃúÑÔ
 On Fri, 15 May 2009 04:13:06 +0200, zsxxsz <zhengshuxin hexun.com> wrote:
 [...]
 Of course, all the disadvantages above may be solved in future, these
 are just the time problems.




Yes, I'm writing the server framework widh D, which has the good charaters same
as
the famous mta called Postfix.
zsxxsz

"Tim Matthews" <tim.matthews7 gmail.com> writes:

On Fri, 15 May 2009 14:13:06 +1200, zsxxsz <zhengshuxin hexun.com> wrote:

 First, there are no one good IDE for D, such as Eclipse for java, MS  
 visual studio for .net, although there are some IDE for D, but they are  
 all simple and ugly


Not sure the status but these are attempts to get D support in eclipse:

http://www.dsource.org/projects/descent
http://www.dsource.org/projects/descent/wiki/Mmrnmhrm

Other ide's include:

http://www.dsource.org/projects/poseidon
http://www.techopinion.net/start/node/6

and few commercial sollutions such as:

http://www.n-brain.net/una_ide.html
http://zeusedit.com/d.html
http://www.slickedit.com/content/view/498/#DLanguageSupport

 Second, there are no many useful Libs(except the basic Phobos) and server
 frameworks written for D, which can speed up our efficiency  of write
 application. Although tango has done some works for D1, these aren't  
 enough.


You are very uninformed dsource.org/projects has a lot of usefull libs and  
it doesnt take much to wrap or port c++ to D with tools and manuals  
available to help you.
http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?PortingOverview
BTW What libraries are you specifically missing and why dont you get your  
hands dirty if it means engough to you?

 Third, there are no good application written by D such as Nginx, Squid,  
 BDB, Postfix, Mysql, Sqlite, Postgresql, Tomcat, Hibenate, Spring, etc.


You are gona offend alot of people here saying that. Many D apps are very  
good. I think D didnt exist when most of those projects there started but  
if you just need to interface to them that is very possible already for  
the most.

 Fourth, the D2's stablity is also another one, someone maybe say this


It is getting more stable with every release which is very often.

Anyway D.announce is here for annoucements not for moaning and complaints.