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reply Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
Fixes the Tango build breaks.


http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.1.055.zip


http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/changelog.html
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.039.zip
Jan 03 2010
next sibling parent Eldar Insafutdinov <e.insafutdinov gmail.com> writes:
Walter Bright Wrote:

 Fixes the Tango build breaks.
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.1.055.zip
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.039.zip

Could something be done about this one http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3600 ? That's a serious regression.
Jan 03 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Eldar Insafutdinov <e.insafutdinov gmail.com> writes:
Walter Bright Wrote:

 Fixes the Tango build breaks.
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.1.055.zip
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.039.zip

And thank's a lot for this release. I was finally able to compile QtD almost without patching dmd (only patch from#3600). Getting rid of the forward reference bugs is a big milestone. We just have to make sure that there won't be regressions. Somebody mentioned a while ago about a service, that would build big D projects with the newest compiler version to avoid regressions. This idea I believe is worth discussing.
Jan 03 2010
parent reply Eldar Insafutdinov <e.insafutdinov gmail.com> writes:
Eldar Insafutdinov Wrote:

 Walter Bright Wrote:
 
 Fixes the Tango build breaks.
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.1.055.zip
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.039.zip

And thank's a lot for this release. I was finally able to compile QtD almost without patching dmd (only patch from#3600). Getting rid of the forward reference bugs is a big milestone. We just have to make sure that there won't be regressions. Somebody mentioned a while ago about a service, that would build big D projects with the newest compiler version to avoid regressions. This idea I believe is worth discussing.

I was wrong, there is still a forward reference bug in dmd, which I cannot reduce to a testcase, considering the size of the library.
Jan 03 2010
parent reply Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> writes:
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:22:02 -0500, Eldar Insafutdinov wrote:

 Eldar Insafutdinov Wrote:
 
 Walter Bright Wrote:
 
 Fixes the Tango build breaks.
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.1.055.zip
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.039.zip

And thank's a lot for this release. I was finally able to compile QtD almost without patching dmd (only patch from#3600). Getting rid of the forward reference bugs is a big milestone. We just have to make sure that there won't be regressions. Somebody mentioned a while ago about a service, that would build big D projects with the newest compiler version to avoid regressions. This idea I believe is worth discussing.

I was wrong, there is still a forward reference bug in dmd, which I cannot reduce to a testcase, considering the size of the library.

Have you tried http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=102 ?
Jan 03 2010
next sibling parent reply Leandro Lucarella <llucax gmail.com> writes:
Moritz Warning, el  3 de enero a las 15:25 me escribiste:
 On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:22:02 -0500, Eldar Insafutdinov wrote:
 
 Eldar Insafutdinov Wrote:
 
 Walter Bright Wrote:
 
 Fixes the Tango build breaks.
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.1.055.zip
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.039.zip

And thank's a lot for this release. I was finally able to compile QtD almost without patching dmd (only patch from#3600). Getting rid of the forward reference bugs is a big milestone. We just have to make sure that there won't be regressions. Somebody mentioned a while ago about a service, that would build big D projects with the newest compiler version to avoid regressions. This idea I believe is worth discussing.

I was wrong, there is still a forward reference bug in dmd, which I cannot reduce to a testcase, considering the size of the library.

Have you tried http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=102 ?

WoW! I wonder why that patch is not already in DMD, since Don said that it passes the DMD test suite, and not only fixes 102, it also fixes 461, 2386, 2654 and 2666, not counting a couple of already fixed bugs. I think Rainer Schuetze deserves a lot of credit, I think his practically at the same scale as Don fixing important bugs, I hope Walter realizes that and had him the DMD test suite as well (or even better, releases the test suite ;). Thanks for the quick release fixing the regressions! -- Leandro Lucarella (AKA luca) http://llucax.com.ar/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Key: 5F5A8D05 (F8CD F9A7 BF00 5431 4145 104C 949E BFB6 5F5A 8D05) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you.
Jan 03 2010
parent Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> writes:
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:47:44 -0300, Leandro Lucarella wrote:

 Moritz Warning, el  3 de enero a las 15:25 me escribiste:
 On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:22:02 -0500, Eldar Insafutdinov wrote:
 
 Eldar Insafutdinov Wrote:
 
 Walter Bright Wrote:
 
 Fixes the Tango build breaks.
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.1.055.zip
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.039.zip

And thank's a lot for this release. I was finally able to compile QtD almost without patching dmd (only patch from#3600). Getting rid of the forward reference bugs is a big milestone. We just have to make sure that there won't be regressions. Somebody mentioned a while ago about a service, that would build big D projects with the newest compiler version to avoid regressions. This idea I believe is worth discussing.

I was wrong, there is still a forward reference bug in dmd, which I cannot reduce to a testcase, considering the size of the library.

Have you tried http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=102 ?

WoW! I wonder why that patch is not already in DMD, since Don said that it passes the DMD test suite, and not only fixes 102, it also fixes 461, 2386, 2654 and 2666, not counting a couple of already fixed bugs. I think Rainer Schuetze deserves a lot of credit, I think his practically at the same scale as Don fixing important bugs, I hope Walter realizes that and had him the DMD test suite as well (or even better, releases the test suite ;). Thanks for the quick release fixing the regressions!

Yes, big kudos to Rainer as well!
Jan 03 2010
prev sibling parent reply Eldar Insafutdinov <e.insafutdinov gmail.com> writes:
Moritz Warning Wrote:

 On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:22:02 -0500, Eldar Insafutdinov wrote:
 
 Eldar Insafutdinov Wrote:
 
 Walter Bright Wrote:
 
 Fixes the Tango build breaks.
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.1.055.zip
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.039.zip

And thank's a lot for this release. I was finally able to compile QtD almost without patching dmd (only patch from#3600). Getting rid of the forward reference bugs is a big milestone. We just have to make sure that there won't be regressions. Somebody mentioned a while ago about a service, that would build big D projects with the newest compiler version to avoid regressions. This idea I believe is worth discussing.

I was wrong, there is still a forward reference bug in dmd, which I cannot reduce to a testcase, considering the size of the library.

Have you tried http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=102 ?

This patch is no longer relevant. Here is the patch http://pastebin.com/m1bed188d that fixes compiling QtD with the current dmd (I also have to apply a patch from #3600). However I cannot really file a bug as I cannot reduce it to a testcase of a reasonable size. Any chance that this patch can be applied? Shall I submit it to the bugzilla then?
Jan 03 2010
parent Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
Eldar Insafutdinov wrote:
 This patch is no longer relevant. Here is the patch
 http://pastebin.com/m1bed188d that fixes compiling QtD with the
 current dmd (I also have to apply a patch from #3600). However I
 cannot really file a bug as I cannot reduce it to a testcase of a
 reasonable size. Any chance that this patch can be applied? Shall I
 submit it to the bugzilla then?

You should still submit it to bugzilla, because often someone else is able to cut them down to size.
Jan 03 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent reply digited <digited yandex.ru> writes:
Walter Bright Wrote:

 Fixes the Tango build breaks.

With RC's, you'll never need this.
Jan 03 2010
next sibling parent KennyTM~ <kennytm gmail.com> writes:
On Jan 4, 10 05:06, digited wrote:
 Walter Bright Wrote:

 Fixes the Tango build breaks.

With RC's, you'll never need this.

Neither if people regularly test with the trunk build.
Jan 03 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> writes:
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:06:02 -0500, digited wrote:

 Walter Bright Wrote:
 
 Fixes the Tango build breaks.

With RC's, you'll never need this.

There is always the dmd svn trunk: dsource.org/projects/dmd But a "release is coming soon, please test" announcement would be nice.
Jan 03 2010
prev sibling parent reply Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
digited wrote:
 Walter Bright Wrote:
 
 Fixes the Tango build breaks.

With RC's, you'll never need this.

I put out a beta to the people who have asked to be on the beta announcement list, and nobody (other than Don) gave any feedback on it. If you want to be on the beta list, please email me. Or on second thought, perhaps I'll ask Brad to set up a beta mailing list.
Jan 03 2010
next sibling parent reply Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:
 digited wrote:
 Walter Bright Wrote:

 Fixes the Tango build breaks.

With RC's, you'll never need this.

I put out a beta to the people who have asked to be on the beta announcement list, and nobody (other than Don) gave any feedback on it. If you want to be on the beta list, please email me. Or on second thought, perhaps I'll ask Brad to set up a beta mailing list.

Why not just post them publicly on the announce newsgroup?
Jan 03 2010
next sibling parent digited <digited yandex.ru> writes:
Brad Roberts Wrote:

 Walter Bright wrote:
 digited wrote:
 Walter Bright Wrote:

 Fixes the Tango build breaks.

With RC's, you'll never need this.

I put out a beta to the people who have asked to be on the beta announcement list, and nobody (other than Don) gave any feedback on it. If you want to be on the beta list, please email me. Or on second thought, perhaps I'll ask Brad to set up a beta mailing list.

Why not just post them publicly on the announce newsgroup?

Agree. Please, Walter, post betas in Announce newsgroup (here). I'll test Tango trunk, miniD, xf and my code at least on Windows and Mac 10.5 at work (i'm using 64-bit linux distro, so - ldc there) Giving beta testers a couple of days before releasing final version will be perfect.
Jan 03 2010
prev sibling parent reply Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
Brad Roberts wrote:
 Why not just post them publicly on the announce newsgroup?

I'd rather it be a self-selected list of people who decide they need to be notified, rather than expecting them to constantly check the announce n.g. I'd also rather not confuse releases with betas, I doubt many would be interested in betas other than library maintainers.
Jan 03 2010
next sibling parent reply Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> writes:
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:52:20 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:

 Brad Roberts wrote:
 Why not just post them publicly on the announce newsgroup?

I'd rather it be a self-selected list of people who decide they need to be notified, rather than expecting them to constantly check the announce n.g. I'd also rather not confuse releases with betas, I doubt many would be interested in betas other than library maintainers.

Please put me on the list.
Jan 03 2010
parent reply Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
Moritz Warning wrote:
 On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:52:20 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:
 
 Brad Roberts wrote:
 Why not just post them publicly on the announce newsgroup?

I'd rather it be a self-selected list of people who decide they need to be notified, rather than expecting them to constantly check the announce n.g. I'd also rather not confuse releases with betas, I doubt many would be interested in betas other than library maintainers.

Please put me on the list.

When Brad creates it, I (or Brad) will post an announcement here, and you'll be able to sign up for it.
Jan 03 2010
parent Leandro Lucarella <llucax gmail.com> writes:
Walter Bright, el  3 de enero a las 16:57 me escribiste:
 Moritz Warning wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:52:20 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:

Brad Roberts wrote:
Why not just post them publicly on the announce newsgroup?

I'd rather it be a self-selected list of people who decide they need to be notified, rather than expecting them to constantly check the announce n.g. I'd also rather not confuse releases with betas, I doubt many would be interested in betas other than library maintainers.

Please put me on the list.

When Brad creates it, I (or Brad) will post an announcement here, and you'll be able to sign up for it.

Please, do it in the announcement NG, there is no point to have a separated list. Mark the announcements clearly as beta, with, for example, a [BETA] prefix. That should be enough to avoid confusion. -- Leandro Lucarella (AKA luca) http://llucax.com.ar/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Key: 5F5A8D05 (F8CD F9A7 BF00 5431 4145 104C 949E BFB6 5F5A 8D05) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- now self-employed, concerned (but powerless), an empowered and informed member of society (pragmatism not idealism), will not cry in public, less chance of illness, tires that grip in the wet (shot of baby strapped in back seat),
Jan 04 2010
prev sibling parent Leandro Lucarella <llucax gmail.com> writes:
Walter Bright, el  3 de enero a las 16:52 me escribiste:
 Brad Roberts wrote:
Why not just post them publicly on the announce newsgroup?

I'd rather it be a self-selected list of people who decide they need to be notified, rather than expecting them to constantly check the announce n.g. I'd also rather not confuse releases with betas, I doubt many would be interested in betas other than library maintainers.

Why don't you do both? I would like to know when DMD is about to be released and I don't maintain any libraries (I'm trying to merge latest DMD FE to LDC though). I don't want to receive any personal e-mails, the announcement NG is perfect for me. Please, please, do both if you think is very important for some other people to be explicitly notified via personal e-mails. Thanks. -- Leandro Lucarella (AKA luca) http://llucax.com.ar/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Key: 5F5A8D05 (F8CD F9A7 BF00 5431 4145 104C 949E BFB6 5F5A 8D05) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Lo último que hay que pensar es que se desalinea la memoria Hay que priorizar como causa la idiotez propia Ya lo tengo asumido -- Pablete, filósofo contemporáneo desconocido
Jan 04 2010
prev sibling parent BCS <none anon.com> writes:
Hello Walter,

 digited wrote:
 
 Walter Bright Wrote:
 
 Fixes the Tango build breaks.
 

With RC's, you'll never need this.

I put out a beta to the people who have asked to be on the beta announcement list, and nobody (other than Don) gave any feedback on it. If you want to be on the beta list, please email me. Or on second thought, perhaps I'll ask Brad to set up a beta mailing list.

If you do, please add a link to it to the D front page. (I might be interested later but not now)
Jan 03 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent Eldar Insafutdinov <e.insafutdinov gmail.com> writes:
Leandro Lucarella Wrote:

 Moritz Warning, el  3 de enero a las 15:25 me escribiste:
 On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:22:02 -0500, Eldar Insafutdinov wrote:
 
 Eldar Insafutdinov Wrote:
 
 Walter Bright Wrote:
 
 Fixes the Tango build breaks.
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.1.055.zip
 
 
 http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/changelog.html
 http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.039.zip

And thank's a lot for this release. I was finally able to compile QtD almost without patching dmd (only patch from#3600). Getting rid of the forward reference bugs is a big milestone. We just have to make sure that there won't be regressions. Somebody mentioned a while ago about a service, that would build big D projects with the newest compiler version to avoid regressions. This idea I believe is worth discussing.

I was wrong, there is still a forward reference bug in dmd, which I cannot reduce to a testcase, considering the size of the library.

Have you tried http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=102 ?

WoW! I wonder why that patch is not already in DMD, since Don said that it passes the DMD test suite, and not only fixes 102, it also fixes 461, 2386, 2654 and 2666, not counting a couple of already fixed bugs. I think Rainer Schuetze deserves a lot of credit, I think his practically at the same scale as Don fixing important bugs, I hope Walter realizes that and had him the DMD test suite as well (or even better, releases the test suite ;). Thanks for the quick release fixing the regressions! -- Leandro Lucarella (AKA luca) http://llucax.com.ar/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Key: 5F5A8D05 (F8CD F9A7 BF00 5431 4145 104C 949E BFB6 5F5A 8D05) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you.

I am all for it. The patch I have just posted in this thread is also by Rainer. He has done a significant amount of work to make dmd compile QtD.
Jan 03 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent Eldar Insafutdinov <e.insafutdinov gmail.com> writes:
Walter Bright Wrote:

 digited wrote:
 Walter Bright Wrote:
 
 Fixes the Tango build breaks.

With RC's, you'll never need this.

I put out a beta to the people who have asked to be on the beta announcement list, and nobody (other than Don) gave any feedback on it. If you want to be on the beta list, please email me. Or on second thought, perhaps I'll ask Brad to set up a beta mailing list.

Can you put me on this list?
Jan 03 2010
prev sibling parent reply Eldar Insafutdinov <e.insafutdinov gmail.com> writes:
Walter Bright Wrote:

 Eldar Insafutdinov wrote:
 This patch is no longer relevant. Here is the patch
 http://pastebin.com/m1bed188d that fixes compiling QtD with the
 current dmd (I also have to apply a patch from #3600). However I
 cannot really file a bug as I cannot reduce it to a testcase of a
 reasonable size. Any chance that this patch can be applied? Shall I
 submit it to the bugzilla then?

You should still submit it to bugzilla, because often someone else is able to cut them down to size.

There is only 2 of us working on QtD and there has not been interest from anyone to help with it. QtD contains more than 500 auto generated classes/modules with tons of methods and inter-dependencies. It's not easy at all. Consider it as an example of real word application with a million lines of code. If not Rainer's tremendous help, I would have given up with the development of QtD a while ago. He was only able to help me because he used QtD as a stress test. This patch is also made by Rainer and apparently it is no longer valid (it was applicable to dmd svn revision 323, but not 324 anymore). All I can do is to rely on Rainer again.
Jan 03 2010
next sibling parent Eldar Insafutdinov <e.insafutdinov gmail.com> writes:
Eldar Insafutdinov Wrote:

 Walter Bright Wrote:
 
 Eldar Insafutdinov wrote:
 This patch is no longer relevant. Here is the patch
 http://pastebin.com/m1bed188d that fixes compiling QtD with the
 current dmd (I also have to apply a patch from #3600). However I
 cannot really file a bug as I cannot reduce it to a testcase of a
 reasonable size. Any chance that this patch can be applied? Shall I
 submit it to the bugzilla then?

You should still submit it to bugzilla, because often someone else is able to cut them down to size.

There is only 2 of us working on QtD and there has not been interest from anyone to help with it. QtD contains more than 500 auto generated classes/modules with tons of methods and inter-dependencies. It's not easy at all. Consider it as an example of real word application with a million lines of code. If not Rainer's tremendous help, I would have given up with the development of QtD a while ago. He was only able to help me because he used QtD as a stress test. This patch is also made by Rainer and apparently it is no longer valid (it was applicable to dmd svn revision 323, but not 324 anymore). All I can do is to rely on Rainer again.

I.e. it is valid, it just no longer fixes #2511 as it used to do. It would be nice at least to get this one fixed, as it is a blocker for us too.
Jan 03 2010
prev sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound1 digitalmars.com> writes:
Eldar Insafutdinov wrote:
 Walter Bright Wrote:
 
 Eldar Insafutdinov wrote:
 This patch is no longer relevant. Here is the patch 
 http://pastebin.com/m1bed188d that fixes compiling QtD with the 
 current dmd (I also have to apply a patch from #3600). However I 
 cannot really file a bug as I cannot reduce it to a testcase of a
  reasonable size. Any chance that this patch can be applied?
 Shall I submit it to the bugzilla then?

You should still submit it to bugzilla, because often someone else is able to cut them down to size.

There is only 2 of us working on QtD and there has not been interest from anyone to help with it.

Interest from people waxes and wanes, I wouldn't be concerned if it was wane at the moment. The advantage to Bugzilla is it sits there, sails up, ready for when the wind blows. The n.g., however, is very topical, and old news scrolls away and out of sight.
 QtD contains more than 500 auto
 generated classes/modules with tons of methods and
 inter-dependencies. It's not easy at all. Consider it as an example
 of real word application with a million lines of code. If not
 Rainer's tremendous help, I would have given up with the development
 of QtD a while ago. He was only able to help me because he used QtD
 as a stress test.

You and Rainer have been very valuable contributors to the quality of D.
 This patch is also made by Rainer and apparently it is no longer
 valid (it was applicable to dmd svn revision 323, but not 324
 anymore). All I can do is to rely on Rainer again.

Jan 03 2010