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reply BCS <BCS pathlink.com> writes:
http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/D.html
Nov 05 2007
next sibling parent Alix Pexton <_a_l_i_x_._p_e_x_t_o_n_ _g_m_a_i_l_._c_o_m_> writes:
BCS wrote:
 http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm
 
 http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/D.html

I think that there is something else note worthy on the Tiobe news this month, scroll down the index index page to the November News flash and you'ss see this tidbit...
 In 2 months time we will announce the "programming language of 2007". Last
years winner Ruby is favourite to win the title again closely followed by D and
C#.

A...
Nov 05 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
BCS wrote:
 http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm
 
 http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/D.html

# 12 actually. --bb
Nov 05 2007
parent BCS <BCS pathlink.com> writes:
Bill Baxter wrote:
 BCS wrote:
 
 http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

 http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/D.html

# 12 actually. --bb

sorry x-)
Nov 05 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent "Vladimir Panteleev" <thecybershadow gmail.com> writes:
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:55:13 +0200, BCS <BCS pathlink.com> wrote:

 http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

 http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/D.html

Delphi also got ahead of D again. -- Best regards, Vladimir mailto:thecybershadow gmail.com
Nov 05 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent Denton Cockburn <diboss hotmail.com> writes:
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:55:13 -0800, BCS wrote:

 http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm
 
 http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/D.html

Should jump much higher when D 2.0 is final and stable with the spec is published. A proper book would also help. I know Walter's too busy to do that though. Might even start stealing a few Lispers. :)
Nov 05 2007
prev sibling parent reply Daniel Keep <daniel.keep.lists gmail.com> writes:
BCS wrote:
 http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm
 
 http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/D.html

It's interesting; if you look at the deltas between now and exactly one year ago, the only language with a faster growth than D (+1.02%) is Ruby (+1.37%). And check out these deltas: C -3.23% C++ -2.03% Perl -1.49% C# +0.89% Visual Basic +0.76% JavaScript +0.62% Python +0.59% Clearly, people are no longer listening to Dijkstra :P Visual Basic has actually gone up over C++, which is frankly kinda scary. As usual, Tiobe, grain of salt; but it's interesting none the less. -- Daniel
Nov 05 2007
next sibling parent "Vladimir Panteleev" <thecybershadow gmail.com> writes:
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:25:56 +0200, Daniel Keep <daniel.keep.lists gmail.com>
wrote:

 Visual Basic has
 actually gone up over C++, which is frankly kinda scary.

VB will be wherever newbies roam. I guess more people are getting into programming lately, which is good (assuming they don't stick with VB for too long). -- Best regards, Vladimir mailto:thecybershadow gmail.com
Nov 05 2007
prev sibling parent reply JEMandy <nospam nospam.com> writes:
Daniel Keep <daniel.keep.lists gmail.com> wrote in news:fgojbo$2ip8$1
 digitalmars.com:

 BCS wrote:
 Clearly, people are no longer listening to Dijkstra :P

Please relieve me of my ignorance: What did did Dijkstra say that is being ignored here?
Nov 07 2007
next sibling parent reply Sascha Katzner <sorry.no spam.invalid> writes:
JEMandy wrote:
 Please relieve me of my ignorance:  What did did Dijkstra say that is
 being ignored here?

He didn't like the "goto" statement, he considers it bad for programmers and the programs they wrote... and since Basic is THE "goto"-language per se. ;-)
Nov 07 2007
parent Ary Borenszweig <ary esperanto.org.ar> writes:
Sascha Katzner escribió:
 JEMandy wrote:
 Please relieve me of my ignorance:  What did did Dijkstra say that is
 being ignored here?

He didn't like the "goto" statement, he considers it bad for programmers and the programs they wrote... and since Basic is THE "goto"-language per se. ;-)

Well, if you use D, you are using a compiler which Dijkstra woudln't have liked (the way it is programmed). :-)
Nov 07 2007
prev sibling parent reply Daniel Keep <daniel.keep.lists gmail.com> writes:
JEMandy wrote:
 Daniel Keep <daniel.keep.lists gmail.com> wrote in news:fgojbo$2ip8$1
  digitalmars.com:
 
 BCS wrote:
 Clearly, people are no longer listening to Dijkstra :P

Please relieve me of my ignorance: What did did Dijkstra say that is being ignored here?

"It is practically impossible to teach good programming to students that have had a prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration." -- Edsger W. Dijkstra
Nov 07 2007
parent 0ffh <spam frankhirsch.net> writes:
Daniel Keep wrote:
 "It is practically impossible to teach good programming to students that
 have had a prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are
 mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration."
 
  -- Edsger W. Dijkstra

There is surely something to this - but then BASIC in those days was a completely different language from BASIC today. Todays BASICs are more like sloppy Pascal dialects. Still bad enough, though. Regards, Frank
Nov 07 2007