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reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
Not directly related to D, but hopefully a hook :o).

http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1945828


Andrei
Aug 29 2012
next sibling parent reply "d_follower" <d_follower fakemail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 29 August 2012 at 14:53:39 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 Not directly related to D, but hopefully a hook :o).

 http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1945828


 Andrei

An excellent read! Thank you very much for the article!
Aug 29 2012
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 8/29/12 9:09 AM, d_follower wrote:
 On Wednesday, 29 August 2012 at 14:53:39 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 Not directly related to D, but hopefully a hook :o).

 http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1945828


 Andrei

An excellent read! Thank you very much for the article!

Thank you. It's now on reddit too: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/z0uvb/the_best_programming_advi e_i_ever_got_with/. Bit nervous :o). Andrei
Aug 29 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent Torarin <torarind gmail.com> writes:
2012/8/29 Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org>:
 Not directly related to D, but hopefully a hook :o).

 http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1945828


 Andrei

Loved it! Torarin
Aug 29 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "Gary Willoughby" <dev kalekold.net> writes:
On Wednesday, 29 August 2012 at 14:53:39 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 Not directly related to D, but hopefully a hook :o).

 http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1945828


 Andrei

A really great biographical read! Learning to learn sounds strange when you explain the premise to others but i agree it is the key to becoming a great developer.
Aug 29 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "Nathan M. Swan" <nathanmswan gmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 29 August 2012 at 14:53:39 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 Not directly related to D, but hopefully a hook :o).

 http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1945828


 Andrei

Great article. Learning to learn is really what distinguishes vocational training from true education. NMS
Aug 29 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "MattCoder" <mattcoder hotmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 29 August 2012 at 14:53:39 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 Not directly related to D, but hopefully a hook :o).

 http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1945828

Andrei, About this: "If I could go back and change one thing, I'd do it all over again, just more radically." What do you mean about "more radically"?
Aug 29 2012
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 8/29/12 5:01 PM, MattCoder wrote:
 On Wednesday, 29 August 2012 at 14:53:39 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 Not directly related to D, but hopefully a hook :o).

 http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1945828

Andrei, About this: "If I could go back and change one thing, I'd do it all over again, just more radically." What do you mean about "more radically"?

In no particular order or dependency: spend less time in crappy jobs, go back to school sooner, create a startup, start working on D sooner. Andrei
Aug 29 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "xenon325" <1 mail.net> writes:
On Wednesday, 29 August 2012 at 14:53:39 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
 Not directly related to D, but hopefully a hook :o).

 http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1945828


 Andrei

In the context of learning to learn. Have anyone tried speed reading [1] ? I'm thinking about taking a course. Seems to be extremely useful, but effort is pretty big (few hours each day for few months, and I'm ... let's say not really disciplined) and opponents bash it quite heavy (e.g. very superficial understanding of the text) P.S. Good article. *A lot* of people I know seems to miss that point. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_reading
Aug 30 2012
parent reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 8/30/2012 1:45 AM, xenon325 wrote:
 In the context of learning to learn. Have anyone tried speed
 reading [1] ?

 I'm thinking about taking a course. Seems to be extremely useful,
 but effort is pretty big (few hours each day for few months, and
 I'm ... let's say not really disciplined) and opponents bash it
 quite heavy (e.g. very superficial understanding of the text)

Speed reading works fine when reading a bestseller novel. It's a complete failure at reading intellectually dense material.
Aug 30 2012
parent Charles Hixson <charleshixsn earthlink.net> writes:
On 08/30/2012 06:09 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 03:04:58 +0200
 "bearophile"<bearophileHUGS lycos.com>  wrote:

 Walter Bright:

 Speed reading works fine when reading a bestseller novel. It's
 a complete failure at reading intellectually dense material.

But if the novel you have speed read was very good you have missed most of the enjoyment. It's like eating a very good traditional handmade ice cream: if you gulp it down in few seconds you miss most of the point of eating it :)

Mostly because the headache you'll inevitably endure will divert all your attention away from the taste! :)

you need your eyes checked. Probably the latter. OTOH, it isn't pleasurable. The only use I ever had for it was reading text in classes I didn't want to take, where I couldn't have forced myself to read the text while thinking about it. (So it had better NOT be information dense.) Note that good speed reading requires sufficient concentration, that one gets neither pleasure nor "disgust" from it. (I don't know what the correct antonym for pleasure is in this context, but it isn't pain.) I believe that if one were to do it for very long that it would cease to be any more stressful than other things requiring intense concentration. I don't believe that it would ever be pleasurable. FWIW, it's been decades since I've speed read for more than a page or two. I like to understand what I'm reading, not just absorb it as raw sensory input.
Aug 31 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:45:13 +0200
"xenon325" <1 mail.net> wrote:
 
 In the context of learning to learn. Have anyone tried speed
 reading [1] ?
 
 I'm thinking about taking a course. Seems to be extremely useful,
 but effort is pretty big (few hours each day for few months, and
 I'm ... let's say not really disciplined) and opponents bash it
 quite heavy (e.g. very superficial understanding of the text)
 
 P.S. Good article. *A lot* of people I know seems to miss that
 point.
 
 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_reading

I can usually identify speed readers when emailing because they're the ones whose responses clearly indicate they totally missed at least half of what I wrote. Based on that wikipedia page, it sounds like "speed reading" doesn't really mean anything at all, but is just a catch-all term for any technique for improving reading speed. I didn't know that before. A speed reading fan once told me that speed reading is all about reading one sentence at a time instead of one word at a time (note that unless you're learning to read, nobody reads one letter at a time). I don't know if that's a fair description of "speed reading" or not, but it's definitely a flawed approach: We can read whole words at a time because: - There are only so many letters (even in Chinese/Kanji the characters are constructed out of only so many common radicals). - There are only so many commonly-used sequences of letters (Ie, words), and half the words used are VERY common. (Ex: Consider the previous sentence: "are, so, the, and, most, many, there" Ie, half the words are extremely common.) Sure, there are MANY valid words, but most of them are fairly uncommon. - It's uncommon that getting a couple letters wrong will result in a radically altered, and still contextually-valid, meaning. That means there's built-in error-correction, which is why we don't read every letter and can still get away with it. Reading the overall word instead of it's component parts typically work just fine. But extending the above to whole sentences, or even phrases, doesn't work: - There are nearly limitless ways of combining words to make phrases and sentences, unlike combining letters (or radicals) to make words. (We have dictionaries of words. Think it's even remotely possible to have a dictionary of sentences?) You're going to see the same sequence of letters over and over and over and over...but there's very few sentences, if any, that get re-used like words do. There are common phrases, but even the most common phrases are no where near as common as the most common words. - Getting a word wrong or a couple words flip-flopped is far more likely to result in a radically altered meaning, than doing to same to mere letters. And such altered meanings will typically be far less obvious. Unlike words, there's very little built-in error correction.
Aug 30 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "bearophile" <bearophileHUGS lycos.com> writes:
Walter Bright:

 Speed reading works fine when reading a bestseller novel. It's 
 a complete failure at reading intellectually dense material.

But if the novel you have speed read was very good you have missed most of the enjoyment. It's like eating a very good traditional handmade ice cream: if you gulp it down in few seconds you miss most of the point of eating it :) Better to read one good novel slowly and appreciate and understand it well, than quickly read three of them, and forget them in few weeks. Bye, bearophile
Aug 30 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 03:04:58 +0200
"bearophile" <bearophileHUGS lycos.com> wrote:

 Walter Bright:
 
 Speed reading works fine when reading a bestseller novel. It's 
 a complete failure at reading intellectually dense material.

But if the novel you have speed read was very good you have missed most of the enjoyment. It's like eating a very good traditional handmade ice cream: if you gulp it down in few seconds you miss most of the point of eating it :)

Mostly because the headache you'll inevitably endure will divert all your attention away from the taste! :)
Aug 30 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "Chris Cain" <clcain uncg.edu> writes:
On Thursday, 30 August 2012 at 23:18:34 UTC, Nick Sabalausky 
wrote:
 I can usually identify speed readers when emailing because 
 they're the
 ones whose responses clearly indicate they totally missed at 
 least half
 --snip--

Look, I'm sure you've just met some poor speed readers. And your point about speed readers not being good at reading dictionaries and something about wearing flip flops is wrong. I wear normal shoes, thank you very much. ... :p
Aug 30 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "Kagamin" <spam here.lot> writes:
On Friday, 31 August 2012 at 01:05:00 UTC, bearophile wrote:
 Walter Bright:

 Speed reading works fine when reading a bestseller novel. It's 
 a complete failure at reading intellectually dense material.

But if the novel you have speed read was very good you have missed most of the enjoyment. It's like eating a very good traditional handmade ice cream: if you gulp it down in few seconds you miss most of the point of eating it :) Better to read one good novel slowly and appreciate and understand it well, than quickly read three of them, and forget them in few weeks.

Even when watching a movie I usually rewind and rewatch intense scenes several times.
Aug 30 2012
prev sibling parent Nick Sabalausky <SeeWebsiteToContactMe semitwist.com> writes:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:41:58 +0200
"Kagamin" <spam here.lot> wrote:

 On Friday, 31 August 2012 at 01:05:00 UTC, bearophile wrote:
 Walter Bright:

 Speed reading works fine when reading a bestseller novel. It's 
 a complete failure at reading intellectually dense material.

But if the novel you have speed read was very good you have missed most of the enjoyment. It's like eating a very good traditional handmade ice cream: if you gulp it down in few seconds you miss most of the point of eating it :) Better to read one good novel slowly and appreciate and understand it well, than quickly read three of them, and forget them in few weeks.

Even when watching a movie I usually rewind and rewatch intense scenes several times.

I do that constantly :) (Netflix is a PITA with that though since seeking an internet-streamed media just...doesn't naturally work well like with local media. 'Course Netflix doesn't offer alternate languages or dvd extras, which can be really annoying too on stuff with mediocre dubs.) In my case the constant rewinding is usually due to dialog being mumbled or muddy or too fast or drowned out by sfx/music (which has become unfathomably common these days) or when I just wasn't paying attention and missed something ;)
Aug 31 2012