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digitalmars.D.announce - TDPL Amazon rank at 4-months high

reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
Hello,


I've been witnessing a recent increase in interest in TDPL, which can be 
assumed to be a good proxy for interest in the language itself. The 
trend has been bucking for about 45 days now and is reflected in higher 
click-through rate on related ads and in a better Amazon sales rank.

Today TDPL's Amazon rank has reached 24,896 (currently at 29,285; 
updated hourly), which is a 4-months high. (By high I actually mean 
small because lower rank is better.) Last time a better rank was reached 
was on October 29, 2010 (18,755).

Amazon dynamically assigns unique sale ranks to all of its books such 
that 1 is the best seller and 8M is the least sold. Rank below 1,000 
indicates a bestseller, below 10,000 means an excellent seller, and 
below 100,000 means a good seller. (Amazon's ranking system handles 
these tiers differently.) The sales rank of "good sellers" may fluctuate 
a lot so it needs smoothing by a moving average (for example TDPL's rank 
only on Feb 2 was 347,125).

For a rough comparison, here's the current sales rank for two comparable 
books: Erlang - 129,001, Head First Java - 977. The latter book is the 
best selling comparable book.


Andrei
Feb 28 2011
next sibling parent reply Bekenn <leaveme alone.com> writes:
Awesome!  I actually just received my copy (ordered through an Amazon 
reseller) a couple of days ago.  I somehow ended up with one of the 
limited edition copies...
Feb 28 2011
next sibling parent reply Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:
On 2011-03-01 00:12, Bekenn wrote:

 Awesome! I actually just received my copy (ordered through an Amazon
 reseller) a couple of days ago. I somehow ended up with one of the
 limited edition copies...



The non-limited seems to be the rare one.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg
Feb 28 2011
parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 3/1/11 1:11 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

 On 2011-03-01 00:12, Bekenn wrote:

 Awesome! I actually just received my copy (ordered through an Amazon
 reseller) a couple of days ago. I somehow ended up with one of the
 limited edition copies...



 The non-limited seems to be the rare one.



Yah, perhaps sales aren't that strong after all :o).

Andrei
Feb 28 2011
next sibling parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 3/1/11 7:28 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 09:47:52 +0200, Andrei Alexandrescu
 <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:


 Yah, perhaps sales aren't that strong after all :o).



 You mean that, as the author, you don't even get to know how many copies
 sold? o_O



Addison Wesley Longman sends authors a tally every six months.

Andrei
Mar 01 2011
prev sibling parent reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 3/1/11 2:04 AM, Russel Winder wrote:

 On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 01:47 -0600, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 On 3/1/11 1:11 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

 On 2011-03-01 00:12, Bekenn wrote:

 Awesome! I actually just received my copy (ordered through an Amazon
 reseller) a couple of days ago. I somehow ended up with one of the
 limited edition copies...



 The non-limited seems to be the rare one.



 Yah, perhaps sales aren't that strong after all :o).

 Andrei



 Perhaps they reprinted with "the fault" in order to milk the "limited
 edition" factor?



No.


 And remember the "best seller rank" is regionally dependent, i.e.
 different Amazon servers will deliver different results.

 There is also historical hysteresis to their figure:  my "Developing
 Java Software" second edition still rates higher than the third edition
 even though the publisher reports the third edition has sold the same
 number of copies -- which is actually quite a lot thankfully.



Forgive my ignorance - I didn't know you have a book portfolio, and so 
impressive at that. Congratulations!

Yah, there are many variables. Add to those many handling details that 
influence the process. TDPL has certainly sold more than 1830 copies by 
now (= the collector's edition count) but booksellers have no obligation 
to send older prints first, so it all depends on which batch they have 
handy when shipping. Also I'm sure some smaller booksellers have gotten 
a batch from the collector's edition that hasn't been sold yet.


Andrei
Mar 01 2011
next sibling parent reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 Yah, there are many variables. Add to those many handling details that 
 influence the process. TDPL has certainly sold more than 1830 copies by 
 now (= the collector's edition count) but booksellers have no obligation 
 to send older prints first, so it all depends on which batch they have 
 handy when shipping. Also I'm sure some smaller booksellers have gotten 
 a batch from the collector's edition that hasn't been sold yet.



It could be like milk. You buy a new carton of milk, and shove it in the 
refrigerator. When you need some, you grab the carton in front, which is the
new 
one.

So the old milk remains "in stock" for months, years, ...
Mar 01 2011
parent reply Daniel Gibson <metalcaedes gmail.com> writes:
Am 02.03.2011 01:26, schrieb Jordi Sayol:

 Al 01/03/11 21:57, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit:

 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 Yah, there are many variables. Add to those many handling details that
influence the process. TDPL has certainly sold more than 1830 copies by now (=
the collector's edition count) but booksellers have no obligation to send older
prints first, so it all depends on which batch they have handy when shipping.
Also I'm sure some smaller booksellers have gotten a batch from the collector's
edition that hasn't been sold yet.



 It could be like milk. You buy a new carton of milk, and shove it in the
refrigerator. When you need some, you grab the carton in front, which is the
new one.

 So the old milk remains "in stock" for months, years, ...



 milk + years = poison :-)
 
 To solve this, somebody invented FIFO (first in, first out), and FILO (first
in, last out), to solve storage problems. 
 



You'd need a fridge with two doors: one in the front, one in the back. Insert
new food in the front, get food to eat from the back (or the other way round).
But reinsert opened food in the back (or, in the alternative case, in the
front).

;-)
Mar 01 2011
next sibling parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
Daniel Gibson wrote:

 You'd need a fridge with two doors: one in the front, one in the back. Insert
 new food in the front, get food to eat from the back (or the other way round).
 But reinsert opened food in the back (or, in the alternative case, in the
front).



Cleaning out what's in the back of the fridge is always a terrifying experience.
Mar 01 2011
prev sibling parent "Nick Sabalausky" <a a.a> writes:
"Daniel Gibson" <metalcaedes gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:ikk423$2e9r$5 digitalmars.com...

 Am 02.03.2011 01:26, schrieb Jordi Sayol:

 Al 01/03/11 21:57, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit:

 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 Yah, there are many variables. Add to those many handling details that 
 influence the process. TDPL has certainly sold more than 1830 copies by 
 now (= the collector's edition count) but booksellers have no 
 obligation to send older prints first, so it all depends on which batch 
 they have handy when shipping. Also I'm sure some smaller booksellers 
 have gotten a batch from the collector's edition that hasn't been sold 
 yet.



 It could be like milk. You buy a new carton of milk, and shove it in the 
 refrigerator. When you need some, you grab the carton in front, which is 
 the new one.

 So the old milk remains "in stock" for months, years, ...



 milk + years = poison :-)






milk + years = cheese :)


 To solve this, somebody invented FIFO (first in, first out), and FILO 
 (first in, last out), to solve storage problems.



 You'd need a fridge with two doors: one in the front, one in the back. 
 Insert
 new food in the front, get food to eat from the back (or the other way 
 round).
 But reinsert opened food in the back (or, in the alternative case, in the 
 front).

 ;-)



I think grocery stores sometimes have fridge cases that.

Alton Brown has a fridge on the Good Eats set that his crew hacked up that 
way for "fridge POV" shots and for "The Lady of The Refrigerator".
Mar 01 2011
prev sibling parent Jordi Sayol <g.sayol yahoo.es> writes:
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Jordi Sayol
Mar 01 2011
prev sibling next sibling parent Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg gmx.com> writes:
On Monday 28 February 2011 23:11:30 Jacob Carlborg wrote:

 On 2011-03-01 00:12, Bekenn wrote:

 Awesome! I actually just received my copy (ordered through an Amazon
 reseller) a couple of days ago. I somehow ended up with one of the
 limited edition copies...



 The non-limited seems to be the rare one.



Well, at first. But there were only about 1000 non-limited ones, weren't there? 
They have to run out eventually. I've seen both limited and non-limited, so 
they're both out there, but the longer that the book has been out, the less 
likely it is to get one of the "limited edition" ones. I would have thought
that 
it had been out long enough that that would be the case, but maybe not. Of 
course, it wouldn't be all that hard for there to be a number of limited 
editions in a particular warehouse that just hasn't shipped as many as 
elsewhere, and if you happen to get one shipped from there you get a limited 
edition whereas pretty much everywhere else has the normal ones now. Most of
the 
people around here are likely to have the limited ones though (regardless of 
what is normal in general), simply because we generally picked up the book as 
soon is it came out.

- Jonathan M Davis
Feb 28 2011
prev sibling next sibling parent Russel Winder <russel russel.org.uk> writes:
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On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 01:47 -0600, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 On 3/1/11 1:11 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

 On 2011-03-01 00:12, Bekenn wrote:

 Awesome! I actually just received my copy (ordered through an Amazon
 reseller) a couple of days ago. I somehow ended up with one of the
 limited edition copies...



 The non-limited seems to be the rare one.



 Yah, perhaps sales aren't that strong after all :o).
=20
 Andrei



Perhaps they reprinted with "the fault" in order to milk the "limited
edition" factor?

And remember the "best seller rank" is regionally dependent, i.e.
different Amazon servers will deliver different results.

There is also historical hysteresis to their figure:  my "Developing
Java Software" second edition still rates higher than the third edition
even though the publisher reports the third edition has sold the same
number of copies -- which is actually quite a lot thankfully.
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Mar 01 2011
prev sibling parent "Vladimir Panteleev" <vladimir thecybershadow.net> writes:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 09:47:52 +0200, Andrei Alexandrescu  
<SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> wrote:


 Yah, perhaps sales aren't that strong after all :o).



You mean that, as the author, you don't even get to know how many copies  
sold? o_O

-- 
Best regards,
  Vladimir                            mailto:vladimir thecybershadow.net
Mar 01 2011
prev sibling parent Tomek =?ISO-8859-2?B?U293afFza2k=?= <just ask.me> writes:
Daniel Gibson napisa=B3:


 You'd need a fridge with two doors: one in the front, one in the back. In=




 new food in the front, get food to eat from the back (or the other way ro=




 But reinsert opened food in the back (or, in the alternative case, in the=




Or a cylinder-shaped refrigerator with rotating food shelves. Put new stuff=
 in the front and turn the shelf slightly clockwise to expose oldest food f=
or eating.

Ain't circular buffers yummy?

--=20
Tomek (the patent holder ;-)
Mar 06 2011