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digitalmars.D.announce - SHOO's time code

reply "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:55:51 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de>  
wrote:

 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:07:06 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:02:32 -0400, Moritz Warning
 <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:

 have you thought about just asking the authors of the Tango code in
 question?
 I would imagine they would say that they only see a minor resemblance
 in the api and asking wouldn't even be necessary from their point of
 view.

be located so until he is and agrees the proposed Phobos time module cannot be accepted." -Steve

problem at heart). All the blaming doesn't help anyone.

FYI, John Chapman is no longer a blocker for this path. -Steve
May 13 2010
next sibling parent reply Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> writes:
On Thu, 13 May 2010 16:45:45 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:55:51 -0400, Moritz Warning
 <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:
 
 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:07:06 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:02:32 -0400, Moritz Warning
 <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:

 have you thought about just asking the authors of the Tango code in
 question?
 I would imagine they would say that they only see a minor resemblance
 in the api and asking wouldn't even be necessary from their point of
 view.

cannot be located so until he is and agrees the proposed Phobos time module cannot be accepted." -Steve

problem at heart). All the blaming doesn't help anyone.

FYI, John Chapman is no longer a blocker for this path. -Steve

I have asked Kris Bell and Matti Niemenmaa. No Problem at all.
May 13 2010
next sibling parent reply superdan <super dan.org> writes:
== Quote from Moritz Warning (moritzwarning web.de)'s article
 On Thu, 13 May 2010 16:45:45 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:55:51 -0400, Moritz Warning
 <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:

 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:07:06 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:02:32 -0400, Moritz Warning
 <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:

 have you thought about just asking the authors of the Tango code in
 question?
 I would imagine they would say that they only see a minor resemblance
 in the api and asking wouldn't even be necessary from their point of
 view.

cannot be located so until he is and agrees the proposed Phobos time module cannot be accepted." -Steve

problem at heart). All the blaming doesn't help anyone.

FYI, John Chapman is no longer a blocker for this path. -Steve

No Problem at all.

what'd lars douche say? he's da lord o' the flies over there.
May 17 2010
next sibling parent superdan <super dan.org> writes:
== Quote from Steven Schveighoffer (schveiguy yahoo.com)'s article
 On Tue, 18 May 2010 06:30:35 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de>
 wrote:
 Lars isn't listed as an author for the time code in Tango.
 But anyway, I can't imagine that he would mind.

5th author is? He/she is not listed as an author in the source. -Steve

i know who dat is. it's da mythical man-month.
May 18 2010
prev sibling parent reply superdan <super dan.org> writes:
== Quote from Moritz Warning (moritzwarning web.de)'s article
 On Tue, 18 May 2010 03:21:25 +0000, superdan wrote:
 == Quote from Moritz Warning (moritzwarning web.de)'s article
 On Thu, 13 May 2010 16:45:45 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:55:51 -0400, Moritz Warning
 <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:

 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:07:06 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:02:32 -0400, Moritz Warning
 <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:

 have you thought about just asking the authors of the Tango code
 in question?
 I would imagine they would say that they only see a minor
 resemblance in the api and asking wouldn't even be necessary from
 their point of view.

cannot be located so until he is and agrees the proposed Phobos time module cannot be accepted." -Steve

problem at heart). All the blaming doesn't help anyone.

FYI, John Chapman is no longer a blocker for this path. -Steve


what'd lars douche say? he's da lord o' the flies over there.

But anyway, I can't imagine that he would mind.

lotta shit came down just coz ppl couldn't imagine shit was comin' down. ask lars douche & get jack bauer to work on da fifth motherfucker. wut a fucked project dis tango shit is. cocksuckers. all da mistery n shit. the motherfuckers won't post shit but bully walt on da phone. wut the fuck is their problem with some fucking date n fucking time fucking calculations. u dunno whom to ask whos responsible for shit. this is fucking cambodia under fucking pol fucking pot. guys go with boost and std.gregorian n shit. sorry shoo. tango is a fucking boat anchor for d. shit.
May 18 2010
parent superdan <super dan.org> writes:
== Quote from Steven Schveighoffer (schveiguy yahoo.com)'s article
 On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:39:12 -0400, superdan <super dan.org> wrote:
 guys go with boost and std.gregorian n shit. sorry shoo. tango is a
 fucking boat anchor for d. shit.

really like the API that SHOO came up with based on it. If there's any way to get SHOO's code into Phobos, I want to pursue that first. If this fails, we can go with boost. -Steve

i feel ya bro. i once sorta liked a hoe with herpes. way i c it is simple. it's fucking dates and fucking times. wut the fuck. ain't a fucking operating system. no matter how u dress a pig u still call it a fucking pig. if u have da datetime functionality it don't matter to be cute. we is wasting time sucking lars douche's cock 2 give us permission 2 his fucking shit. fuck that shit. dis must be da least amount of power that got to some idiot's head.
May 18 2010
prev sibling parent Matti Niemenmaa <see_signature for.real.address> writes:
On 2010-05-14 00:52, Moritz Warning wrote:
 I have asked Kris Bell and Matti Niemenmaa.
 No Problem at all.

Since this evidently needs confirming: I'm fine with relicensing any of my contributions to the tango.time modules under the Boost Software License, Version 1.0. -- E-mail address: matti.niemenmaa+news, domain is iki (DOT) fi
May 25 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> writes:
On Tue, 18 May 2010 03:21:25 +0000, superdan wrote:

 == Quote from Moritz Warning (moritzwarning web.de)'s article
 On Thu, 13 May 2010 16:45:45 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:55:51 -0400, Moritz Warning
 <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:

 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:07:06 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

 On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 09:02:32 -0400, Moritz Warning
 <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:

 have you thought about just asking the authors of the Tango code
 in question?
 I would imagine they would say that they only see a minor
 resemblance in the api and asking wouldn't even be necessary from
 their point of view.

cannot be located so until he is and agrees the proposed Phobos time module cannot be accepted." -Steve

problem at heart). All the blaming doesn't help anyone.

FYI, John Chapman is no longer a blocker for this path. -Steve


what'd lars douche say? he's da lord o' the flies over there.

But anyway, I can't imagine that he would mind.
May 18 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Tue, 18 May 2010 06:30:35 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de>  
wrote:

 Lars isn't listed as an author for the time code in Tango.
 But anyway, I can't imagine that he would mind.

People have mentioned that there are 5 authors. Does anyone know who the 5th author is? He/she is not listed as an author in the source. -Steve
May 18 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:39:12 -0400, superdan <super dan.org> wrote:

 guys go with boost and std.gregorian n shit. sorry shoo. tango is a
 fucking boat anchor for d. shit.

Having written most of the API for tango.time, I sorta like it :) I really like the API that SHOO came up with based on it. If there's any way to get SHOO's code into Phobos, I want to pursue that first. If this fails, we can go with boost. -Steve
May 18 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> writes:
On Tue, 18 May 2010 14:24:40 +0000, superdan wrote:

 == Quote from Steven Schveighoffer (schveiguy yahoo.com)'s article
 On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:39:12 -0400, superdan <super dan.org> wrote:
 guys go with boost and std.gregorian n shit. sorry shoo. tango is a
 fucking boat anchor for d. shit.

really like the API that SHOO came up with based on it. If there's any way to get SHOO's code into Phobos, I want to pursue that first. If this fails, we can go with boost. -Steve

i feel ya bro. i once sorta liked a hoe with herpes. way i c it is simple. it's fucking dates and fucking times. wut the fuck. ain't a fucking operating system. no matter how u dress a pig u still call it a fucking pig. if u have da datetime functionality it don't matter to be cute. we is wasting time sucking lars douche's cock 2 give us permission 2 his fucking shit. fuck that shit. dis must be da least amount of power that got to some idiot's head.

Wut? Person A wrote some code and had a look at code from person B. Now person C says that A need to get permission from B so that C can use the code from A. The reason is because the license of the code written by B isn't quite compatible with the license recently chosen by C. And now you are calling B an idiot/douche for that reason?
May 18 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy yahoo.com> writes:
On Tue, 18 May 2010 14:10:05 -0400, Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de>  
wrote:

 On Tue, 18 May 2010 14:24:40 +0000, superdan wrote:

 == Quote from Steven Schveighoffer (schveiguy yahoo.com)'s article
 On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:39:12 -0400, superdan <super dan.org> wrote:
 guys go with boost and std.gregorian n shit. sorry shoo. tango is a
 fucking boat anchor for d. shit.

really like the API that SHOO came up with based on it. If there's any way to get SHOO's code into Phobos, I want to pursue that first. If this fails, we can go with boost. -Steve

i feel ya bro. i once sorta liked a hoe with herpes. way i c it is simple. it's fucking dates and fucking times. wut the fuck. ain't a fucking operating system. no matter how u dress a pig u still call it a fucking pig. if u have da datetime functionality it don't matter to be cute. we is wasting time sucking lars douche's cock 2 give us permission 2 his fucking shit. fuck that shit. dis must be da least amount of power that got to some idiot's head.

Wut? Person A wrote some code and had a look at code from person B. Now person C says that A need to get permission from B so that C can use the code from A. The reason is because the license of the code written by B isn't quite compatible with the license recently chosen by C. And now you are calling B an idiot/douche for that reason?

Let's make it a bit clearer. Person A *used* the code from person B, and used the *documentation* of said code to write his own similar library. Person A has not claimed that he looked at the source. Person B claims that it is impossible to do so without actually looking at the source, but has not yet cited any specific copying. Person C doesn't want any trouble, and just is being extra careful. I don't really like the situation, but if this is the way it has to be, then let's get it done and move on. -Steve
May 19 2010
prev sibling next sibling parent Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> writes:
On Wed, 19 May 2010 06:45:42 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

 On Tue, 18 May 2010 14:10:05 -0400, Moritz Warning
 <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:
 
 On Tue, 18 May 2010 14:24:40 +0000, superdan wrote:

 == Quote from Steven Schveighoffer (schveiguy yahoo.com)'s article
 On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:39:12 -0400, superdan <super dan.org> wrote:
 guys go with boost and std.gregorian n shit. sorry shoo. tango is a
 fucking boat anchor for d. shit.

really like the API that SHOO came up with based on it. If there's any way to get SHOO's code into Phobos, I want to pursue that first. If this fails, we can go with boost. -Steve

i feel ya bro. i once sorta liked a hoe with herpes. way i c it is simple. it's fucking dates and fucking times. wut the fuck. ain't a fucking operating system. no matter how u dress a pig u still call it a fucking pig. if u have da datetime functionality it don't matter to be cute. we is wasting time sucking lars douche's cock 2 give us permission 2 his fucking shit. fuck that shit. dis must be da least amount of power that got to some idiot's head.

Wut? Person A wrote some code and had a look at code from person B. Now person C says that A need to get permission from B so that C can use the code from A. The reason is because the license of the code written by B isn't quite compatible with the license recently chosen by C. And now you are calling B an idiot/douche for that reason?

Let's make it a bit clearer. Person A *used* the code from person B, and used the *documentation* of said code to write his own similar library. Person A has not claimed that he looked at the source.

 Person B claims that it is impossible to do so without actually looking 

 source, but has not yet cited any specific copying.  Person C doesn't
 want any trouble, and just is being extra careful.

what others said. I think it was a move forward in anticipation to Person Cs license sensibility. Anyway, Person B haven't hesitated when asked to give permission himself.
 I don't really like the situation, but if this is the way it has to be,
 then let's get it done and move on.

 -Steve

May 25 2010
prev sibling parent Moritz Warning <moritzwarning web.de> writes:
On Tue, 25 May 2010 13:12:14 +0000, Moritz Warning wrote:

 On Wed, 19 May 2010 06:45:42 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
 
 On Tue, 18 May 2010 14:10:05 -0400, Moritz Warning
 <moritzwarning web.de> wrote:
 
 On Tue, 18 May 2010 14:24:40 +0000, superdan wrote:

 == Quote from Steven Schveighoffer (schveiguy yahoo.com)'s article
 On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:39:12 -0400, superdan <super dan.org> wrote:
 guys go with boost and std.gregorian n shit. sorry shoo. tango is
 a fucking boat anchor for d. shit.

really like the API that SHOO came up with based on it. If there's any way to get SHOO's code into Phobos, I want to pursue that first. If this fails, we can go with boost. -Steve

i feel ya bro. i once sorta liked a hoe with herpes. way i c it is simple. it's fucking dates and fucking times. wut the fuck. ain't a fucking operating system. no matter how u dress a pig u still call it a fucking pig. if u have da datetime functionality it don't matter to be cute. we is wasting time sucking lars douche's cock 2 give us permission 2 his fucking shit. fuck that shit. dis must be da least amount of power that got to some idiot's head.

Wut? Person A wrote some code and had a look at code from person B. Now person C says that A need to get permission from B so that C can use the code from A. The reason is because the license of the code written by B isn't quite compatible with the license recently chosen by C. And now you are calling B an idiot/douche for that reason?

Let's make it a bit clearer. Person A *used* the code from person B, and used the *documentation* of said code to write his own similar library. Person A has not claimed that he looked at the source.

 Person B claims that it is impossible to do so without actually looking

 source, but has not yet cited any specific copying.  Person C doesn't
 want any trouble, and just is being extra careful.

what others said. I think it was a move forward in anticipation to Person Cs license sensibility. Anyway, Person B haven't hesitated when asked to give permission himself.

May 25 2010