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digitalmars.D.announce - D compiler daily downloads at an all-time high

reply Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

There have been 1677 dmd downloads per day (net after discounting Travis 
CI) on average over the past 28 days (i.e. four weeks ending Sunday, 
November 15).

That's a new all-times high ever since we started measuring on January 
02, 2013. The previous record, 1630 average daily downloads, was 
established in the four weeks ending November 17, 2014.

Congratulations to everybody who contributed for making this happen. The 
hardest part is ahead of us - increased attention brings more scrutiny 
and demands. Professional execution, stronger participation, and 
rallying behind our fundamental goals are key to carrying the D language 
forward.


Andrei
Nov 16 2015
next sibling parent Rory McGuire via Digitalmars-d-announce writes:
I'm loving this momentum. Think I've been watching / using D since around
2001 and its never had this much momentum.
Something I've noticed over the last year or two is that other developers
are more accepting of the fact that I'm that guy that likes D, and they
actually ask constructive questions. Ten years ago that never happened,
they would always get that dazed look in their eye and be dismissive.

P.S. I'm also finding the latest compiler _way_ faster compiling vibe's
diet templates.
Nov 16 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Andrea Fontana <nospam example.com> writes:
On Monday, 16 November 2015 at 15:20:51 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

 There have been 1677 dmd downloads per day (net after 
 discounting Travis CI) on average over the past 28 days (i.e. 
 four weeks ending Sunday, November 15).

 That's a new all-times high ever since we started measuring on 
 January 02, 2013. The previous record, 1630 average daily 
 downloads, was established in the four weeks ending November 
 17, 2014.

 Congratulations to everybody who contributed for making this 
 happen. The hardest part is ahead of us - increased attention 
 brings more scrutiny and demands. Professional execution, 
 stronger participation, and rallying behind our fundamental 
 goals are key to carrying the D language forward.


 Andrei
So November is the dmd month and nobody knows.
Nov 16 2015
parent reply David Gileadi <gileadis NSPMgmail.com> writes:
On 11/16/15 8:57 AM, Andrea Fontana wrote:
 So November is the dmd month and nobody knows.
It would make more sense for it to have been D-cember.
Nov 16 2015
parent Daniel Kozak <kozzi11 gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 16 November 2015 at 16:04:09 UTC, David Gileadi wrote:
 On 11/16/15 8:57 AM, Andrea Fontana wrote:
 So November is the dmd month and nobody knows.
It would make more sense for it to have been D-cember.
Not in all languages :) czech november - Listopa-D D-ecember - prosinec So Listopad make sense here :P, Btw, it is my birthday this month
Nov 16 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent Joakim <dlang joakim.fea.st> writes:
On Monday, 16 November 2015 at 15:20:51 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

 There have been 1677 dmd downloads per day (net after 
 discounting Travis CI) on average over the past 28 days (i.e. 
 four weeks ending Sunday, November 15).

 That's a new all-times high ever since we started measuring on 
 January 02, 2013. The previous record, 1630 average daily 
 downloads, was established in the four weeks ending November 
 17, 2014.
Probably has to do with your recent quora response becoming one of the top 30 most upvoted reddit links from the last year, plus one of the most commented on: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/top/?sort=top&t=year&count=25&after=t3_2sn74k
Nov 16 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply ixid <nuaccount gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 16 November 2015 at 15:20:51 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 That's a new all-times high ever since we started measuring on 
 January 02, 2013. The previous record, 1630 average daily 
 downloads, was established in the four weeks ending November 
 17, 2014.

 Andrei
That looks more like growth has plateaued which should be extremely concerning.
Nov 16 2015
parent Daniel Kozak <kozzi11 gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 16 November 2015 at 17:49:34 UTC, ixid wrote:
 On Monday, 16 November 2015 at 15:20:51 UTC, Andrei 
 Alexandrescu wrote:
 That's a new all-times high ever since we started measuring on 
 January 02, 2013. The previous record, 1630 average daily 
 downloads, was established in the four weeks ending November 
 17, 2014.

 Andrei
That looks more like growth has plateaued which should be extremely concerning.
Not at all. If you look at graph. You will see it is ok, from my point of view. I am not interested in a peek. What is more interesting are minimums. And those seems to rise :).
Nov 16 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Saurabh Das <saurabh.das gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 16 November 2015 at 15:20:51 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

 There have been 1677 dmd downloads per day (net after 
 discounting Travis CI) on average over the past 28 days (i.e. 
 four weeks ending Sunday, November 15).

 That's a new all-times high ever since we started measuring on 
 January 02, 2013. The previous record, 1630 average daily 
 downloads, was established in the four weeks ending November 
 17, 2014.

 Congratulations to everybody who contributed for making this 
 happen. The hardest part is ahead of us - increased attention 
 brings more scrutiny and demands. Professional execution, 
 stronger participation, and rallying behind our fundamental 
 goals are key to carrying the D language forward.


 Andrei
There might be a November-bias, hard to say from 2 data points, but: I've been reading some very persuasive articles on popular programming forums about D in the last 2 weeks. In particular, Andrei's reply on Quora was very well written and highly quotable and the thread of Reddit was well received too. I'd say the current bump in downloads is probably a result of this good press. Cheers! SD
Nov 16 2015
parent Shammah Chancellor <S S.com> writes:
On Monday, 16 November 2015 at 19:16:09 UTC, Saurabh Das wrote:
 On Monday, 16 November 2015 at 15:20:51 UTC, Andrei 
 Alexandrescu wrote:
 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

 There have been 1677 dmd downloads per day (net after 
 discounting Travis CI) on average over the past 28 days (i.e. 
 four weeks ending Sunday, November 15).

 That's a new all-times high ever since we started measuring on 
 January 02, 2013. The previous record, 1630 average daily 
 downloads, was established in the four weeks ending November 
 17, 2014.
w00t! Go us!
Nov 16 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Namal <sotis22 mail.ru> writes:
On Monday, 16 November 2015 at 15:20:51 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

 There have been 1677 dmd downloads per day (net after 
 discounting Travis CI) on average over the past 28 days (i.e. 
 four weeks ending Sunday, November 15).
Hello Andrei, what do you think how good the download numbers are representing the popularity of D? Because I myself have downloaded the new compiler several times. One for work, one for home and one for the virtual machine I guess.
Nov 17 2015
next sibling parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 11/17/15 8:08 AM, Namal wrote:
 On Monday, 16 November 2015 at 15:20:51 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

 There have been 1677 dmd downloads per day (net after discounting
 Travis CI) on average over the past 28 days (i.e. four weeks ending
 Sunday, November 15).
Hello Andrei, what do you think how good the download numbers are representing the popularity of D?
Your guess is as good as mine. It's just a proxy. Generally more daily downloads indicate an increasing interest. -- Andrei
Nov 17 2015
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Adam D. Ruppe <destructionator gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 at 13:08:37 UTC, Namal wrote:
 what do you think how good the download numbers are 
 representing the popularity of D? Because I myself have 
 downloaded the new compiler several times. One for work, one 
 for home and one for the virtual machine I guess.
Oh the other hand, you have people like me who often skip new downloads but use D all the time anyway, and people who get them through third party package managers, etc. My gut feeling is that it probably basically balances out, so more downloads probably means more users, though we couldn't actually tell how many users by just looking at this.
Nov 17 2015
parent "H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d-announce" writes:
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 06:42:37PM +0000, Adam D. Ruppe via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
 On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 at 13:08:37 UTC, Namal wrote:
what do you think how good the download numbers are representing the
popularity of D? Because I myself have downloaded the new compiler
several times. One for work, one for home and one for the virtual
machine I guess.
Oh the other hand, you have people like me who often skip new downloads but use D all the time anyway, and people who get them through third party package managers, etc.
[...] And I never download D from dlang.org; I pull from github. Of course, only a very small subset of D users would do this. :-P T -- Ph.D. = Permanent head Damage
Nov 17 2015
prev sibling parent reply Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow.lists gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 at 13:08:37 UTC, Namal wrote:
 On Monday, 16 November 2015 at 15:20:51 UTC, Andrei 
 Alexandrescu wrote:
 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

 There have been 1677 dmd downloads per day (net after 
 discounting Travis CI) on average over the past 28 days (i.e. 
 four weeks ending Sunday, November 15).
Hello Andrei, what do you think how good the download numbers are representing the popularity of D? Because I myself have downloaded the new compiler several times. One for work, one for home and one for the virtual machine I guess.
As long as we didn't change something in D that affects how often one person downloads the compiler, these are independent variables and do not affect the trend. One or three years ago (or if D were as it was one or three years ago), would you not have downloaded the compiler the same number of times?
Nov 17 2015
next sibling parent John Colvin <john.loughran.colvin gmail.com> writes:
On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 at 23:26:15 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev 
wrote:
 On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 at 13:08:37 UTC, Namal wrote:
 On Monday, 16 November 2015 at 15:20:51 UTC, Andrei 
 Alexandrescu wrote:
 [...]
Hello Andrei, what do you think how good the download numbers are representing the popularity of D? Because I myself have downloaded the new compiler several times. One for work, one for home and one for the virtual machine I guess.
As long as we didn't change something in D that affects how often one person downloads the compiler, these are independent variables and do not affect the trend. One or three years ago (or if D were as it was one or three years ago), would you not have downloaded the compiler the same number of times?
package manager presence has improved, so I would expect dlang.org downloads to represent a smaller fraction of total downloads than it used to.
Nov 17 2015
prev sibling parent reply Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:
On 2015-11-18 00:26, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

 As long as we didn't change something in D that affects how often one
 person downloads the compiler, these are independent variables and do
 not affect the trend. One or three years ago (or if D were as it was one
 or three years ago), would you not have downloaded the compiler the same
 number of times?
Personally I have more machines now to download the compiler to, supporting more platforms. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Nov 18 2015
parent reply Andrea Fontana <nospam example.com> writes:
On Wednesday, 18 November 2015 at 08:22:19 UTC, Jacob Carlborg 
wrote:
 Personally I have more machines now to download the compiler 
 to, supporting more platforms.
Isn't this a proof that it is expanding?
Nov 18 2015
parent Jacob Carlborg <doob me.com> writes:
On 2015-11-18 12:52, Andrea Fontana wrote:

 Isn't this a proof that it is expanding?
Depends on what you mean by "expanding". Sure, available on more platforms. More users, not necessarily. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Nov 18 2015
prev sibling parent reply Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow.lists gmail.com> writes:
On Monday, 16 November 2015 at 15:20:51 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:
 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

 There have been 1677 dmd downloads per day (net after 
 discounting Travis CI) on average over the past 28 days (i.e. 
 four weeks ending Sunday, November 15).
A moving average is probably the most overall useful graph, but would it be possible to also have a graph without a moving average (i.e. simple daily tallies)? That would make it easier to pinpoint individual days of high activity, e.g. due to media coverage.
Nov 18 2015
parent Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail erdani.org> writes:
On 11/18/2015 04:00 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
 On Monday, 16 November 2015 at 15:20:51 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

 There have been 1677 dmd downloads per day (net after discounting
 Travis CI) on average over the past 28 days (i.e. four weeks ending
 Sunday, November 15).
A moving average is probably the most overall useful graph, but would it be possible to also have a graph without a moving average (i.e. simple daily tallies)? That would make it easier to pinpoint individual days of high activity, e.g. due to media coverage.
Plotting daily downloads looks uninformative because of the high variance. But we could publish data as tabular information. Making the stats script available is on my list. -- Andrei
Nov 18 2015