www.digitalmars.com         C & C++   DMDScript  

digitalmars.D.announce - D Conference 2012 - postponed until 2013

reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
Due to there not being sufficient time left to get enough speakers lined up.
Jun 23 2012
next sibling parent "Jesse Phillips" <jessekphillips+D gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, 23 June 2012 at 20:51:00 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 Due to there not being sufficient time left to get enough 
 speakers lined up.

That is sad to hear and hopefully doesn't ruin to many plans. Maybe I'll be able to make it next year. Also the front page dlang.org needs updated.
Jun 25 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent reply deadalnix <deadalnix gmail.com> writes:
Le 23/06/2012 22:50, Walter Bright a écrit :
 Due to there not being sufficient time left to get enough speakers lined
 up.

That is sad. But hopefully, I'll probably be able to participate in 2013.
Jun 26 2012
next sibling parent reply Dejan Lekic <dejan.lekic gmail.com> writes:
On 26/06/12 10:17, deadalnix wrote:
 Le 23/06/2012 22:50, Walter Bright a écrit :
 Due to there not being sufficient time left to get enough speakers lined
 up.

That is sad. But hopefully, I'll probably be able to participate in 2013.

Seattle is too damn far... :(
Jun 26 2012
next sibling parent reply Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 6/26/2012 8:41 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
 On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 16:24:24 Dejan Lekic wrote:
 On 26/06/12 10:17, deadalnix wrote:
 Le 23/06/2012 22:50, Walter Bright a écrit :
 Due to there not being sufficient time left to get enough speakers lined
 up.

That is sad. But hopefully, I'll probably be able to participate in 2013.

Seattle is too damn far... :(

Well, no matter where you pick, it's too far for someone.

The Astoria location enables us to keep the registration costs low, without compromising. It's a great location.
Jun 26 2012
parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 7/24/2012 1:04 AM, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
 However, for anyone outside the continental US, this location makes the
 statement that "we're not terribly interested in having you attend": we'll make
 you take at least two flights (not so many international connections to
 Portland) or even three (if you don't live near a major air hub in your own
 country), and then hire a car (there go the savings you got with the cheap
 registration cost) to drive for 2+ hours after you get off your international
 flight. Even from a hub location in Europe, this will typically mean 15 or more
 hours between the airports, plus an unfamiliar drive through Oregon. That's
 quite a demand on attendees.

 Astoria is a niche location. If you want to broaden your audience, I think a
 more mainstream location would generate more interest internationally, and
 perhaps even domestically. For example, even just Portland itself, but perhaps
 better--and I know it's unoriginal--Silicon Valley or US East Coast.

How about Seattle?
 Thanks,

 Michael

 PS Is there an announce mailing list where one can sign up to get information
 about the 2013 conference?

You can follow D_Programming on twitter.
Jul 24 2012
prev sibling parent =?UTF-8?B?QWxpIMOHZWhyZWxp?= <acehreli yahoo.com> writes:
On 06/26/2012 08:41 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:

 Seattle is too damn far... :(

Well, no matter where you pick, it's too far for someone.

Agreed but Silicon Valley is a good choice. (Not because I live there. :)) There is a strong culture of groups having monthly meetings and companies donating venues. Arguably, almost any software person knows someone in Silicon Valley too, so lodging would be free and more comfortable for many. That would not be as intimate as a meeting at Astoria but would attract more audience from many groups of people who are interested in D but not as much to fly to another state. Ali
Jun 27 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg gmx.com> writes:
On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 16:24:24 Dejan Lekic wrote:
 On 26/06/12 10:17, deadalnix wrote:
 Le 23/06/2012 22:50, Walter Bright a =C3=A9crit :
 Due to there not being sufficient time left to get enough speakers=



 up.

That is sad. But hopefully, I'll probably be able to participate in=


=20
 Seattle is too damn far... :(

Well, no matter where you pick, it's too far for someone. - Jonathan M Davis
Jun 26 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "Michael Kerrisk" <mtk man7.org> writes:
On Tuesday, 26 June 2012 at 18:12:03 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 On 6/26/2012 8:41 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
 On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 16:24:24 Dejan Lekic wrote:
 On 26/06/12 10:17, deadalnix wrote:
 Le 23/06/2012 22:50, Walter Bright a écrit :
 Due to there not being sufficient time left to get enough 
 speakers lined
 up.

That is sad. But hopefully, I'll probably be able to participate in 2013.

Seattle is too damn far... :(

Well, no matter where you pick, it's too far for someone.

The Astoria location enables us to keep the registration costs low, without compromising. It's a great location.

Walter, I've never been there, but from your word I've no doubt that the Astoria is a nice venue. However, for anyone outside the continental US, this location makes the statement that "we're not terribly interested in having you attend": we'll make you take at least two flights (not so many international connections to Portland) or even three (if you don't live near a major air hub in your own country), and then hire a car (there go the savings you got with the cheap registration cost) to drive for 2+ hours after you get off your international flight. Even from a hub location in Europe, this will typically mean 15 or more hours between the airports, plus an unfamiliar drive through Oregon. That's quite a demand on attendees. Astoria is a niche location. If you want to broaden your audience, I think a more mainstream location would generate more interest internationally, and perhaps even domestically. For example, even just Portland itself, but perhaps better--and I know it's unoriginal--Silicon Valley or US East Coast. Thanks, Michael PS Is there an announce mailing list where one can sign up to get information about the 2013 conference?
Jul 24 2012
prev sibling parent "Adam Wilson" <flyboynw gmail.com> writes:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 02:12:05 -0700, Walter Bright  
<newshound2 digitalmars.com> wrote:

 On 7/24/2012 1:04 AM, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
 However, for anyone outside the continental US, this location makes the
 statement that "we're not terribly interested in having you attend":  
 we'll make
 you take at least two flights (not so many international connections to
 Portland) or even three (if you don't live near a major air hub in your  
 own
 country), and then hire a car (there go the savings you got with the  
 cheap
 registration cost) to drive for 2+ hours after you get off your  
 international
 flight. Even from a hub location in Europe, this will typically mean 15  
 or more
 hours between the airports, plus an unfamiliar drive through Oregon.  
 That's
 quite a demand on attendees.

 Astoria is a niche location. If you want to broaden your audience, I  
 think a
 more mainstream location would generate more interest internationally,  
 and
 perhaps even domestically. For example, even just Portland itself, but  
 perhaps
 better--and I know it's unoriginal--Silicon Valley or US East Coast.

How about Seattle?

Seattle has MANY more international connections than Portland (source: I am a certified commercial multi-engine pilot in the Seattle area.) Airlines with direct international flights From Europe and Asia to Seattle: All Nippon Airways Asiana Airlines British Airways Condor Delta Air Lines (primarily to Asia) Emirates EVA Air Hainan Airlines Icelandair Korean Air Lufthansa Airlines United Airlines (primarily to Asia) For the European D users, Lufthansa and British Airways have the best flight schedules and most frequencies. Although if you aren't located near a hub city for these airlines you will still have to make one connection. For Asian D users, you're options are wide open. NOTE: I am not attempting to advocate one location over the other as I live in Seattle and can drive to Astoria, it's actually quite a fun drive. I am merely pointing out that for international arrivals, Sea-Tac probably IS the better option.
 Thanks,

 Michael

 PS Is there an announce mailing list where one can sign up to get  
 information
 about the 2013 conference?

You can follow D_Programming on twitter.

-- Adam Wilson IRC: LightBender Project Coordinator The Horizon Project http://www.thehorizonproject.org/
Jul 24 2012
prev sibling next sibling parent "Jonathan M Davis" <jmdavisProg gmx.com> writes:
On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:11:14 Walter Bright wrote:
 On 6/26/2012 8:41 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
 On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 16:24:24 Dejan Lekic wrote:
 On 26/06/12 10:17, deadalnix wrote:
 Le 23/06/2012 22:50, Walter Bright a écrit :
 Due to there not being sufficient time left to get enough speakers
 lined
 up.

That is sad. But hopefully, I'll probably be able to participate in 2013.

Seattle is too damn far... :(

Well, no matter where you pick, it's too far for someone.

The Astoria location enables us to keep the registration costs low, without compromising. It's a great location.

It's a fine location for me, but I live in Central California. I think that it's mostly people who are in places like Europe or Australia and who lack the time or money to make a trip that far who were unhappy with the location. And there's not much that we can do about that. Moving it to someplace else (e.g. somewhere in Europe) would just change who is having the problem. Every tech conference has the same problem. - Jonathan M Davis
Jun 26 2012
prev sibling parent reply "Lionello Lunesu" <lio lunesu.remove.com> writes:
On Saturday, 23 June 2012 at 20:51:00 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 Due to there not being sufficient time left to get enough 
 speakers lined up.

How many we have / how many we want? I don't consider myself a good speaker, but I could talk about D stuff anytime. For example, that "Modern COM in D" thingie I did, etc... L.
Jun 26 2012
parent Walter Bright <newshound2 digitalmars.com> writes:
On 6/26/2012 8:50 PM, Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 On Saturday, 23 June 2012 at 20:51:00 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
 Due to there not being sufficient time left to get enough speakers lined up.

How many we have / how many we want? I don't consider myself a good speaker, but I could talk about D stuff anytime. For example, that "Modern COM in D" thingie I did, etc...

That would be good, but it won't be until sometime next year. Essentially, we'll need a full, committed lineup of speakers 6 months in advance, enough for 3 days.
Jun 26 2012