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digitalmars.D.announce - D Breaks on to the TIOBE Top 20 List.

reply "Adam Wilson" <flyboynw gmail.com> writes:
I know we don't place much value in TIOBE and it's brethren. However, I  
thought that this was a milestone worthy of a note anyways.

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

-- 
Adam Wilson
GitHub/IRC: LightBender
Aurora Project Coordinator
Apr 25 2014
next sibling parent reply =?UTF-8?B?IlRow6lv?= Bueno" <munrek gmx.com> writes:
On Friday, 25 April 2014 at 19:51:22 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:

 I know we don't place much value in TIOBE and it's brethren. 
 However, I thought that this was a milestone worthy of a note 
 anyways.

 http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html


Well, in fact last month D was 17th on Tiobe, and was in since 
November or December I think ... and now D is 20th but for a 
weird reason it is still ranked as gaining popularity.

And let's talk about numbers :
March 0.744%
April 0.708%
Change : +0.39

I just don't understand how they make their calculations.
Apr 25 2014
parent "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= writes:
On Friday, 25 April 2014 at 20:22:32 UTC, Théo Bueno wrote:

 I just don't understand how they make their calculations.


http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/tpci_definition.htm

Apparently they use:

+"D programming" -"3-D programming" -"DTrace"

?

They claim 90% confidence, but I think that is misleading.
Apr 25 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent "Jesse Phillips" <Jesse.K.Phillips+D gmail.com> writes:
On Friday, 25 April 2014 at 19:51:22 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:

 I know we don't place much value in TIOBE


What do you mean, we're in the top 20! Now's the time to put 
value in TIOBE :)
Apr 25 2014
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Joakim" <dlang joakim.airpost.net> writes:
On Friday, 25 April 2014 at 19:51:22 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:

 I know we don't place much value in TIOBE and it's brethren. 
 However, I thought that this was a milestone worthy of a note 
 anyways.

 http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html


It's interesting that C++ has been declining for the last decade 
and especially the last year, with C and Objective-C taking its 
place at the top for compiled languages.  Mobile has driven 
Objective-C use and will drive the next big language, a good 
opportunity for D given its efficiency and relative ease of use.
Apr 25 2014
parent reply Ben Boeckel via Digitalmars-d-announce writes:
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 06:54:55 +0000, Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:

 On Friday, 25 April 2014 at 19:51:22 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html


 
 It's interesting that C++ has been declining for the last decade and
 especially the last year, with C and Objective-C taking its place at
 the top for compiled languages.  Mobile has driven Objective-C use
 and will drive the next big language, a good opportunity for D given
 its efficiency and relative ease of use.


Wow, TIOBE looks even more useless than the last time looked at it
(years ago). Is TSQL really "more popular" than Perl? I wonder how much
"oh dear, I need help with this" is conflating these ratings. I mean,

many (well-intentioned) projects are targeting printers as their
platform (at least via the paper tray). Almost certainly not more than
all of Scala, Go, and Haskell.

--Ben
Apr 26 2014
next sibling parent reply "Dicebot" <public dicebot.lv> writes:
On Saturday, 26 April 2014 at 23:10:22 UTC, Ben Boeckel via 
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:

 Wow, TIOBE looks even more useless than the last time looked at 
 it
 (years ago). Is TSQL really "more popular" than Perl? I wonder 
 how much
 "oh dear, I need help with this" is conflating these ratings. I 
 mean,

 think too
 many (well-intentioned) projects are targeting printers as their
 platform (at least via the paper tray). Almost certainly not 
 more than
 all of Scala, Go, and Haskell.

 --Ben


Don't forget that it does not only consider new code but overall 
picture. And amount of legacy code in weird languages is still 
huge.
Apr 26 2014
parent reply "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= writes:
On Saturday, 26 April 2014 at 23:13:49 UTC, Dicebot wrote:

 Don't forget that it does not only consider new code but 
 overall picture. And amount of legacy code in weird languages 
 is still huge.


It does not consider code, it uses the hitcounters from search 
engines for this query:

+"<language> programming"
Apr 26 2014
parent "Dicebot" <public dicebot.lv> writes:
On Sunday, 27 April 2014 at 05:21:29 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad 
wrote:

 On Saturday, 26 April 2014 at 23:13:49 UTC, Dicebot wrote:

 Don't forget that it does not only consider new code but 
 overall picture. And amount of legacy code in weird languages 
 is still huge.


 It does not consider code, it uses the hitcounters from search 
 engines for this query:

 +"<language> programming"


Huh, wasn't it also scanning available public repos i.e. on 
GitHub? Or am I conflating with some other index?
Apr 26 2014
prev sibling parent "Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= writes:
On Saturday, 26 April 2014 at 23:10:22 UTC, Ben Boeckel via 
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:


 Wow, TIOBE looks even more useless than the last time looked at 
 it
 (years ago). Is TSQL really "more popular" than Perl? I wonder 
 how much
 "oh dear, I need help with this" is conflating these ratings.


Yep, but that is also what they measure.
Apr 26 2014
prev sibling parent "Bienlein" <jeti789 web.de> writes:
On Friday, 25 April 2014 at 19:51:22 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:

 I know we don't place much value in TIOBE and it's brethren. 
 However, I thought that this was a milestone worthy of a note 
 anyways.

 http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html


I don't want to take your joy, but tiobe has its mood swings: 
Groovy was within the top 20 last year, see 
http://glaforge.appspot.com/article/groovy-enters-top-20-of-the-
iobe-language-index 
Now it is somewhere below the top 40. I think it was below the 
top 50 at the beginning of the year.

Nevertheless, it is certainly good news :-).
Apr 26 2014