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digitalmars.D.announce - Announcing flowerd (it is several things)

reply bobef <bobef abv_nospam.bg> writes:
Pre alpha:

http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki

Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for
making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.

FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.

Some other things, which are not made available yet.

Hope it is useful.
Dec 30 2007
next sibling parent reply BLS <nanali nospam-wanadoo.fr> writes:
bobef schrieb:
 Pre alpha:
 
 http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki
 
 Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for
making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.
 
 FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.
 
 Some other things, which are not made available yet.
 
 Hope it is useful.

No screenshots bobef ? Bjoern
Dec 30 2007
next sibling parent bobef <bobef abv-nospam.bg> writes:
What screen shots? HTML + CSS - your imagination is the limit. If you don't
believe me take a look here - http://www.webcreme.com/ . Now imagine this in a
window with title bar and minimize/maxime/close buttons, working faster even
than opera (and than native Win32 controls too), programmable in D and fully
customizable and extensible :D This is your screenshot :D

BLS Wrote:

 bobef schrieb:
 Pre alpha:
 
 http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki
 
 Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for
making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.
 
 FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.
 
 Some other things, which are not made available yet.
 
 Hope it is useful.

No screenshots bobef ? Bjoern

Dec 30 2007
prev sibling parent reply bobef <bobef abv-nospam.bg> writes:
HTMLayout SDK demos -
http://www.terrainformatica.com/htmlayout/HTMLayoutDemo.zip . Shows most of the
functionality of HTMLayout (lacks eye candy).

BLS Wrote:

 bobef schrieb:
 Pre alpha:
 
 http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki
 
 Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for
making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.
 
 FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.
 
 Some other things, which are not made available yet.
 
 Hope it is useful.

No screenshots bobef ? Bjoern

Dec 30 2007
parent BLS <nanali nospam-wanadoo.fr> writes:
bobef schrieb:
 HTMLayout SDK demos -
http://www.terrainformatica.com/htmlayout/HTMLayoutDemo.zip . Shows most of the
functionality of HTMLayout (lacks eye candy).
 
 BLS Wrote:
 
 bobef schrieb:
 Pre alpha:

 http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki

 Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for
making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.

 FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.

 Some other things, which are not made available yet.

 Hope it is useful.

Bjoern


So, what do I see at webcreme? .. web stuff... not related at all to Desktop frontend- Applications. (Doest it fit into my WIN DESKTOP vertical market app. ? Can I use the layout engine,etc ... sure, "somehow" stupid questions, but please keep in mind that not all of us are aware/comfortable regarding Harmony) :) I guess that (most probabely) I miss something here, however a smart expressive little piece of code, showing visual effects, will help. Bjoern
Dec 30 2007
prev sibling next sibling parent reply yidabu <yidabu.nospam gmail.com> writes:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:50:27 -0500
bobef <bobef abv_nospam.bg> wrote:

 Pre alpha:
 
 http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki
 
 Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for
making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.
 
 FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.
 
 Some other things, which are not made available yet.
 
 Hope it is useful.

Great work! I hope to use FlowerScript to replace PHP as server side scripting engine in the future. £¨More work to do, e.g. connect to DataBase) -- yidabu <yidabu.nospam gmail.com> D Programming Language China: http://www.d-programming-language-china.org/
Dec 30 2007
parent bobef <bobef abv-nospam.bg> writes:
yidabu Wrote:

 
 On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:50:27 -0500
 bobef <bobef abv_nospam.bg> wrote:
 
 Pre alpha:
 
 http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki
 
 Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for
making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.
 
 FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.
 
 Some other things, which are not made available yet.
 
 Hope it is useful.

Great work! I hope to use FlowerScript to replace PHP as server side scripting engine in the future. £¨More work to do, e.g. connect to DataBase)

I had MySQL connection (trough DDBI) implemented in the previous revision of FlowerScript and will implement it again (actually it can be almost copy-pasted). Thanks to the MiniD's binding library is very easy to extend the script. It is easy even without that, but this way you can use most D classes without changes...
 
 -- 
 yidabu <yidabu.nospam gmail.com>
 D Programming Language China:
 http://www.d-programming-language-china.org/

Dec 31 2007
prev sibling parent reply Georg Wrede <georg nospam.org> writes:
bobef wrote:
 Pre alpha:
 
 http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki
 
 Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for
making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.
 
 FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.
 
 Some other things, which are not made available yet.
 
 Hope it is useful.

I read BLS and yidabu, and here's my own thoughts, too: Look, making a superior product (as in VHS vs Beta, Nikon vs Canon, the Anglo-Saxon system vs SI (or even mks), algebraic vs RPN), it never was about technical superiority or even better usability. The whole point was to /get it to the customer/. So? Screenshots, trivial example sources /with/ corresponding screen shots; a FAQ, and a few lines describing why one would switch over. Please. Pre-Alpha? The more reason to fix the above already!
Dec 30 2007
parent reply BLS <nanali nospam-wanadoo.fr> writes:
Georg Wrede schrieb:
 bobef wrote:
 Pre alpha:

 http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki

 Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent 
 for making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.

 FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.

 Some other things, which are not made available yet.

 Hope it is useful.

I read BLS and yidabu, and here's my own thoughts, too: Look, making a superior product (as in VHS vs Beta, Nikon vs Canon, the Anglo-Saxon system vs SI (or even mks), algebraic vs RPN), it never was about technical superiority or even better usability. The whole point was to /get it to the customer/. So? Screenshots, trivial example sources /with/ corresponding screen shots; a FAQ, and a few lines describing why one would switch over. Please. Pre-Alpha? The more reason to fix the above already!

Well bobef is without doubt an excellent, outstanding developer (AKIDE), and the GUI stuff is, from what I can say now, interesting. Anyway... info++ ? YEP!
Dec 30 2007
parent reply bobef <bobef abv-nospam.bg> writes:
Sorry guys. I will provide more info, examples, etc with time. I just don't
have the time to do it all right now. I am sharing the code because I think it
is usable. Just to make one thing clear. HTMLayout !is Harmonia . It is not a
GUI library. It is an HTML renderer. It renders HTML and CSS (and some SVG
too). So it allows you to do everything you see on the web. Visual effects and
everything (this is why I showed webcreme). If you need to do some forms,
controls, etc you can do it too... It is very well designed so it is also
usable as GUI library. And it is very easy to do complex layouts with HTML by
hand, unlike any standard GUI library, and then it is very easy to control
everything from D... Sorry I don't have the time right now for examples and
stuff, but if you are interested take a deeper look at HTMLayout's website. It
provides all the info you need. Plus, if you are going to use the wrapper, you
need to familiarize with HTMLayout first, so it is a very good starting point.
If you have questions and need any specific info - ask in the flowerd forum. I
will try to help.


BLS Wrote:

 Georg Wrede schrieb:
 bobef wrote:
 Pre alpha:

 http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki

 Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent 
 for making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.

 FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.

 Some other things, which are not made available yet.

 Hope it is useful.

I read BLS and yidabu, and here's my own thoughts, too: Look, making a superior product (as in VHS vs Beta, Nikon vs Canon, the Anglo-Saxon system vs SI (or even mks), algebraic vs RPN), it never was about technical superiority or even better usability. The whole point was to /get it to the customer/. So? Screenshots, trivial example sources /with/ corresponding screen shots; a FAQ, and a few lines describing why one would switch over. Please. Pre-Alpha? The more reason to fix the above already!

Well bobef is without doubt an excellent, outstanding developer (AKIDE), and the GUI stuff is, from what I can say now, interesting. Anyway... info++ ? YEP!

Dec 31 2007
next sibling parent BLS <nanali nospam-wanadoo.fr> writes:
Happy new year bobef, and thanks for clarification.
Dec 31 2007
prev sibling parent reply =?iso-8859-1?Q?Robert_M=2E_M=FCnch?= <robert.muench robertmuench.de> writes:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:37:27 +0100, bobef <bobef abv-nospam.bg> wrote:

 Just to make one thing clear. HTMLayout !is Harmonia . It is not a GUI  
 library. It is an HTML renderer. It renders HTML and CSS (and some SVG  
 too).

Will there be a Linux version too? -- Robert
Dec 31 2007
parent bobef <bobef abv-nospam.bg> writes:
As far as I know from the little info there is on his site, Andrew is working
on a cross-platform version. But you better ask him for the status of the port.


Robert M. Münch Wrote:

 On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:37:27 +0100, bobef <bobef abv-nospam.bg> wrote:
 
 Just to make one thing clear. HTMLayout !is Harmonia . It is not a GUI  
 library. It is an HTML renderer. It renders HTML and CSS (and some SVG  
 too).

Will there be a Linux version too? -- Robert

Dec 31 2007