digitalmars.D.announce - DMD front end starter kit

Ben Hinkle (13/13) Apr 01 2005 I started a few project that needed the dmd front end code so I got the

Charlie (8/21) Apr 01 2005 Coolness :) , do you have a script or some automation for this ?

Ben Hinkle (7/8) Apr 01 2005 no but it's a good idea. I emailed Walter some changes to get the #inclu...

Charlie (8/18) Apr 01 2005 Yea it will help alot I think. Thanks for doing this!

Ben Hinkle (7/10) Apr 01 2005 no problem. I'm working on getting a basic dlint going and hooking it up...

Charlie (10/25) Apr 01 2005 Now this sounds fun :). Have you started getting some ideas down on it ...

Ben Hinkle (24/32) Apr 01 2005 I was going to read in class source and write out D code for class(es) t...

Charlie (118/156) Apr 01 2005 Ahh cool didnt know Java did it like this.

Ben Hinkle (10/19) Apr 01 2005 For more info about the Java API for the curious check out

Ben Hinkle (375/378) Apr 01 2005 Attached is a sneak-peak at dlint minor-mode in emacs (using the D

Charlie (6/23) Apr 02 2005 No not at all
Charlie (6/22) Apr 03 2005 Do you mind if I use this for elephant ?

Ben Hinkle (4/6) Apr 03 2005 Please do. That's what it's there for. I'll post a real announcement now...

Lynn Allan (3/5) Apr 01 2005 Just curious why you are using gpl ... was that necessary based on

Ben Hinkle (7/12) Apr 01 2005 The dmd source allows either GPL or the artistic license and I just chos...

Walter (6/19) Apr 02 2005 one -
Lynn Allan (22/35) Apr 04 2005 chose

Ben Hinkle (2/8) Apr 04 2005 It's funny you say that because I totally agree. Most of my stuff is pub...

"Ben Hinkle" <ben.hinkle gmail.com> writes:

I started a few project that needed the dmd front end code so I got the 
source for the DMD front-end into a standalone form and have put it on my 
website as a "starter kit" for others to build D parsers and analyzers. Get 
it at
http://home.comcast.net/~benhinkle/dmdfe
There is a pre-built program that just prints debugging parsing and semantic 
information but that program by itself is not very useful. Hopefully it will 
be easy for people to customize for different tools but if there's something 
I can do to improve the starter kit let me know.

Currently only Windows is supported (but that's probably just becuase I 
haven't made a Makefile for Linux yet). The project is GPL.

Happy Tooling!

-Ben

Apr 01 2005

"Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> writes:

Coolness :) , do you have a script or some automation for this ?

Charlie


"Ben Hinkle" <ben.hinkle gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d2jie3$nl1$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I started a few project that needed the dmd front end code so I got the
 source for the DMD front-end into a standalone form and have put it on my
 website as a "starter kit" for others to build D parsers and analyzers.

Get
 it at
 http://home.comcast.net/~benhinkle/dmdfe
 There is a pre-built program that just prints debugging parsing and

semantic
 information but that program by itself is not very useful. Hopefully it

will
 be easy for people to customize for different tools but if there's

something
 I can do to improve the starter kit let me know.

 Currently only Windows is supported (but that's probably just becuase I
 haven't made a Makefile for Linux yet). The project is GPL.

 Happy Tooling!

 -Ben

Apr 01 2005

"Ben Hinkle" <bhinkle mathworks.com> writes:

"Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> wrote in message 
news:d2jsas$12eo$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Coolness :) , do you have a script or some automation for this ?

no but it's a good idea. I emailed Walter some changes to get the #includes 
working so that I didn't have to worry about including total.h or something. 
Other than that I uncommented some printf's to get some debugging output and 
the rest is right out of the dmd.zip. Hopefully with new versions of dmd it 
shouldn't be much work to plop it in.

Apr 01 2005

"Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> writes:

 Hopefully with new versions of dmd it
 shouldn't be much work to plop it in.

Yea it will help alot I think.  Thanks for doing this!

Charlie



"Ben Hinkle" <bhinkle mathworks.com> wrote in message
news:d2jue1$146c$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 "Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> wrote in message
 news:d2jsas$12eo$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Coolness :) , do you have a script or some automation for this ?

 no but it's a good idea. I emailed Walter some changes to get the

#includes
 working so that I didn't have to worry about including total.h or

something.
 Other than that I uncommented some printf's to get some debugging output

and
 the rest is right out of the dmd.zip. Hopefully with new versions of dmd

it
 shouldn't be much work to plop it in.

Apr 01 2005

"Ben Hinkle" <bhinkle mathworks.com> writes:

"Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> wrote in message 
news:d2k1bk$1798$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Hopefully with new versions of dmd it
 shouldn't be much work to plop it in.

 Yea it will help alot I think.  Thanks for doing this!

no problem. I'm working on getting a basic dlint going and hooking it up to 
the emacs mode for error and warning highlighting. That and I want to write 
a reflection API generator.
It's also fun to see just how much of phobos gets sucked in when you import 
std.string :-)

Apr 01 2005

"Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> writes:

 I'm working on getting a basic dlint going and hooking it up to
 the emacs mode for error and warning highlighting

Coolness.

 That and I want to write
 a reflection API generator.

Now this sounds fun :).  Have you started getting some ideas down on it ?
I'd like to hear 'em ( are you going to add meta-data to the executable ?
If so where you going to put it so D doesnt require a new exe format ? )

C



"Ben Hinkle" <bhinkle mathworks.com> wrote in message
news:d2k6r0$1cpr$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 "Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> wrote in message
 news:d2k1bk$1798$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Hopefully with new versions of dmd it
 shouldn't be much work to plop it in.

 Yea it will help alot I think.  Thanks for doing this!

 no problem. I'm working on getting a basic dlint going and hooking it up

to
 the emacs mode for error and warning highlighting. That and I want to

write
 a reflection API generator.
 It's also fun to see just how much of phobos gets sucked in when you

import
 std.string :-)

Apr 01 2005

"Ben Hinkle" <bhinkle mathworks.com> writes:

"Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> wrote in message 
news:d2kbrj$1hu4$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I'm working on getting a basic dlint going and hooking it up to
 the emacs mode for error and warning highlighting

 Coolness.

 That and I want to write
 a reflection API generator.

 Now this sounds fun :).  Have you started getting some ideas down on it ?
 I'd like to hear 'em ( are you going to add meta-data to the executable ?
 If so where you going to put it so D doesnt require a new exe format ? )

I was going to read in class source and write out D code for class(es) that 
implement a reflection API that resembles Java's reflection API. In other 
words if the input source code looks like

  class Foo {
    int x;
    void bar() {}
  }

then the output class looks something like

  class FooClass : Class {
    this() {
      fields ~= new Field("x",typeid(int),Access.Public);
      methods ~= new Method("bar",<signature>, Access.Public);
    }
    Object newInstance(){ return new Foo(); }
    ...
  }
  static this() { registerClass("Foo",...); }

You have to compile the reflection class and link it in with any class that 
you want reflected. I haven't thought about how exactly the registration 
happens or all the signature stuff will work etc etc but I figure something 
along these lines should work out. The front end should have all the info 
about members and constructors that one would need.

Apr 01 2005

"Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> writes:

 I was going to read in class source and write out D code for class(es)

that
 implement a reflection API that resembles Java's reflection API. In other
 words if the input source code looks like

Ahh cool didnt know Java did it like this.

Attached is a simple php script to convert the front-end to be compilable by
MSVC.  It doesnt catch everything ( sys/time.h ) but it should catch most
things.

Charlie

"Ben Hinkle" <bhinkle mathworks.com> wrote in message
news:d2kd45$1j2b$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 "Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> wrote in message
 news:d2kbrj$1hu4$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I'm working on getting a basic dlint going and hooking it up to
 the emacs mode for error and warning highlighting

 Coolness.

 That and I want to write
 a reflection API generator.

 Now this sounds fun :).  Have you started getting some ideas down on it


?
 I'd like to hear 'em ( are you going to add meta-data to the executable


?
 If so where you going to put it so D doesnt require a new exe format ? )

 I was going to read in class source and write out D code for class(es)

that
 implement a reflection API that resembles Java's reflection API. In other
 words if the input source code looks like

   class Foo {
     int x;
     void bar() {}
   }

 then the output class looks something like

   class FooClass : Class {
     this() {
       fields ~= new Field("x",typeid(int),Access.Public);
       methods ~= new Method("bar",<signature>, Access.Public);
     }
     Object newInstance(){ return new Foo(); }
     ...
   }
   static this() { registerClass("Foo",...); }

 You have to compile the reflection class and link it in with any class

that
 you want reflected. I haven't thought about how exactly the registration
 happens or all the signature stuff will work etc etc but I figure

something
 along these lines should work out. The front end should have all the info
 about members and constructors that one would need.


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Apr 01 2005

"Ben Hinkle" <ben.hinkle gmail.com> writes:

"Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> wrote in message 
news:d2kj5p$1on1$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I was going to read in class source and write out D code for class(es)

 that
 implement a reflection API that resembles Java's reflection API. In other
 words if the input source code looks like

 Ahh cool didnt know Java did it like this.

For more info about the Java API for the curious check out 

Basically you query the JVM for Class, Field, Method and Constructor objects 
and can apply them to instances or use them to construct instances. Since D 
doesn't have a JVM the only thing that knows the class layout is the 
compiler and so I think the best way to do reflection is to feed more code 
through the same compiler.

 Attached is a simple php script to convert the front-end to be compilable 
 by
 MSVC.  It doesnt catch everything ( sys/time.h ) but it should catch most
 things.

nifty. I'll stick it in the zip file if you don't object.

Apr 01 2005

"Ben Hinkle" <ben.hinkle gmail.com> writes:

"Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> wrote in message 
news:d2kbrj$1hu4$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I'm working on getting a basic dlint going and hooking it up to
 the emacs mode for error and warning highlighting

 Coolness.

Attached is a sneak-peak at dlint minor-mode in emacs (using the D 
major-mode). There are two warnings in the code- one about a function that 
should return a value that doesn't and another about a narrowing cast.
I'll clean things up over the weekend and make another post when dlint (and 
the d-mode update) is ready. Thanks to Walter for the wonderful front-end 
code and warning implementation.

-Ben

ps -notice the cute little Dlint menu, too. It basically came for free from 
the mlint highlighter I'm using (written by my buddy Eric Ludlam - Emacs 
hacker extraordinaire) :-) 


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Apr 01 2005

"Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> writes:

Umm ... amazing!  I didn't even know they had a lint mode, how cool!


nifty. I'll stick it in the zip file if you don't object.

No not at all



"Ben Hinkle" <ben.hinkle gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d2kuks$22a8$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 "Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> wrote in message
 news:d2kbrj$1hu4$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I'm working on getting a basic dlint going and hooking it up to
 the emacs mode for error and warning highlighting

 Coolness.

 Attached is a sneak-peak at dlint minor-mode in emacs (using the D
 major-mode). There are two warnings in the code- one about a function that
 should return a value that doesn't and another about a narrowing cast.
 I'll clean things up over the weekend and make another post when dlint

(and
 the d-mode update) is ready. Thanks to Walter for the wonderful front-end
 code and warning implementation.

 -Ben

 ps -notice the cute little Dlint menu, too. It basically came for free

from
 the mlint highlighter I'm using (written by my buddy Eric Ludlam - Emacs
 hacker extraordinaire) :-)

Apr 02 2005

"Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> writes:

Do you mind if I use this for elephant ?

C

"Ben Hinkle" <ben.hinkle gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d2kuks$22a8$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 "Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> wrote in message
 news:d2kbrj$1hu4$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I'm working on getting a basic dlint going and hooking it up to
 the emacs mode for error and warning highlighting

 Coolness.

 Attached is a sneak-peak at dlint minor-mode in emacs (using the D
 major-mode). There are two warnings in the code- one about a function that
 should return a value that doesn't and another about a narrowing cast.
 I'll clean things up over the weekend and make another post when dlint

(and
 the d-mode update) is ready. Thanks to Walter for the wonderful front-end
 code and warning implementation.

 -Ben

 ps -notice the cute little Dlint menu, too. It basically came for free

from
 the mlint highlighter I'm using (written by my buddy Eric Ludlam - Emacs
 hacker extraordinaire) :-)

Apr 03 2005

"Ben Hinkle" <ben.hinkle gmail.com> writes:

"Charlie" <charles jwavro.com> wrote in message 
news:d2pn5u$8i9$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Do you mind if I use this for elephant ?

 C

Please do. That's what it's there for. I'll post a real announcement now 
that I put it up.

Apr 03 2005

"Lynn Allan" <l_d_allan adelphia.net> writes:

 Currently only Windows is supported (but that's probably just

becuase I
 haven't made a Makefile for Linux yet). The project is GPL.

Just curious why you are using gpl ... was that necessary based on
derivation, or your preference? If preference, why?

Apr 01 2005

"Ben Hinkle" <bhinkle mathworks.com> writes:

"Lynn Allan" <l_d_allan adelphia.net> wrote in message 
news:d2k3fj$19b0$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Currently only Windows is supported (but that's probably just

 becuase I
 haven't made a Makefile for Linux yet). The project is GPL.

 Just curious why you are using gpl ... was that necessary based on
 derivation, or your preference? If preference, why?

The dmd source allows either GPL or the artistic license and I just chose 
GPL because I understand it. I haven't looked closely at the artistic one - 
would you prefer that license? I'm not really sure how it differs from GPL, 
to be honest. Maybe I should keep the same style as dmd and say "either GPL 
or Artistic". That would probably be the best approach.

Apr 01 2005

"Walter" <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:

"Ben Hinkle" <bhinkle mathworks.com> wrote in message
news:d2k6ff$1cca$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 "Lynn Allan" <l_d_allan adelphia.net> wrote in message
 news:d2k3fj$19b0$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Currently only Windows is supported (but that's probably just

 becuase I
 haven't made a Makefile for Linux yet). The project is GPL.

 Just curious why you are using gpl ... was that necessary based on
 derivation, or your preference? If preference, why?

 The dmd source allows either GPL or the artistic license and I just chose
 GPL because I understand it. I haven't looked closely at the artistic

one -
 would you prefer that license? I'm not really sure how it differs from

GPL,
 to be honest. Maybe I should keep the same style as dmd and say "either

GPL
 or Artistic". That would probably be the best approach.

The artistic license applies if you want to make a close source version.

Apr 02 2005

"Lynn Allan" <l_d_allan adelphia.net> writes:

"Ben Hinkle" <bhinkle mathworks.com> wrote in message
news:d2k6ff$1cca$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 "Lynn Allan" <l_d_allan adelphia.net> wrote in message
 news:d2k3fj$19b0$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 Currently only Windows is supported (but that's probably just

 becuase I
 haven't made a Makefile for Linux yet). The project is GPL.

 Just curious why you are using gpl ... was that necessary based on
 derivation, or your preference? If preference, why?

 The dmd source allows either GPL or the artistic license and I just

chose
 GPL because I understand it. I haven't looked closely at the

artistic one -
 would you prefer that license? I'm not really sure how it differs

from GPL,
 to be honest. Maybe I should keep the same style as dmd and say

"either GPL
 or Artistic". That would probably be the best approach.

<alert comment="IANAL">

And I'm also not a fan of gpl. From a developer's point of view, I've
only seen downsides to using gpl compared to other common open source
licenses (mpl, Artistic, LGPL, etc.), and no upside.

Whenever I see a project with gpl, I just groan. "Crud, another
library / tool that will be harder to work with than it has to be." I
would come close to recommending public domain over gpl, but Artistic
seems like quite a good choice. I remember trying to sort out the
different license choices some time back, and Artistic was the choice
I was going to use.

A possible problem with Artistic is that I recall some time back,
SourceForge didn't have "Artistic" as one of the options in the
drop-down menu for which license you wanted to select. Or maybe it was
some variant of "Modified Artistic"? It may very well have been added
since then, so this is moot.

</alert>

Apr 04 2005

"Ben Hinkle" <ben.hinkle gmail.com> writes:

 Whenever I see a project with gpl, I just groan. "Crud, another
 library / tool that will be harder to work with than it has to be." I
 would come close to recommending public domain over gpl, but Artistic
 seems like quite a good choice. I remember trying to sort out the
 different license choices some time back, and Artistic was the choice
 I was going to use.

It's funny you say that because I totally agree. Most of my stuff is public 
domain.

Apr 04 2005

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